Returning Worlds (TS4/TS5)

"Cynna;c-16658425" wrote:

"Karon;c-16658310" wrote:


Sorry, i wasnt trying to offend the devs. Actually, i know that the person that said that it was impossible to recreate those worlds in Sims 4 is still active in this community. I was just referencing the fact that the SimGurus are developers that studied to be great in what they do, they can work around problems such these.
And, yes, the problem IS whether or not the developers care to do them. Some of them are new to the sims franchise and want to leave their marks on the series, and thats completely okay. I love seeing brand new neighborhoods/worlds being created. Like, i love Babs L'Amour just like i love Bella Goth or Betty Newbie, but would be really cool if they started to interweave brand-new worlds with classical worlds. Throught my life i have learned that nostalgia is one factor that can sell stuff, that wouldnt be a problem.
During Sims 3 lifetime, i remember the day the the series was making birthday (Not sure which year it was, but probable in the 10/15th birthday or something like that) and a cc creator released a super well done remake of sims 1 world and everybody was downloading it, even people who dont like cc like me.

No, no worries!

I didn't take it that you were literally calling the developers dumb. Your question seemed to be more of a commentary on the developers being treated as if they are dumb. Clearly, they aren't. So, I was agreeing with you. Sorry if I wasn't clear. :)

I also agree that it would be nice to see some of those old worlds translated to TS4. Aside from nostalgia, I would like it to happen because those old 'hoods were chock full of lots that all belonged to a cohesive world -- as opposed to TS4's smaller worlds that don't necessarily feel...local...to each other.

It would be nice if the developers would recreate those 'hoods. However, I'm kind of holding out that they may actually make CAW. That way, EA can continue making new stuff and, perhaps, some of the world builders in the community will tackle cities from the older games.

The creators that were always so busy creating new worlds seem to have gone silent for TS4. They've been left behind. Or, so it appears. Perhaps a CAW program would bring them back because they rock. They have always pushed the envelope in ways that the developer's can't. They didn't have to operate under the same constraints.

Anyway, I went off on a tangent there. But that's my wistful thought for the day.

Oh, its ok. I was just worried that people could misunderstand what i was trying to point.
And, hm, I do not know if I agree with you. While some worlds created by modders for The Sims 3 like Saaqartoq (inspired by Greenland) or Setra (inspired by Egypt) were well unique and detailed, most of the worlds did not look anything different from what we already had in the game.
I want CAW more by wanting a bigger variety of lots than by custom worlds. Like, I wasnt excited about Magnolia Promenade or Newcrest when it was released cuz it just looks like something that should be part of Willow Creek, i was just happy to have more space to play with. Lets take Forgotten Hollow as an example. It is small, but i was just as happy cuz it had a entirely different setting and feel to it. If they had took their time to create a big sized world (like NC) with a unique aspect (like FH) i would end up thrice as happy as i got with those two separate worlds.
In Sims 3 we had the same problem in the beginning. Riverview, Barnacle Bay and Hidden Springs dont look so different from Sunset Valley. Maybe the grass was a little less green or more green, but does never satisfied me.
But then they learned how they should have been doing that. We had oasis inspired Lucky Palms, the beautiful island of Sunlit Tides (that looked different form both Isla Paradiso and Barnacle Bay), the italian inspired Monet Vista, the icelandic themed Aurora Skies and much more after that. Those TS3 store worlds (and later EP worlds) were not only beautiful but they were also unique. They had objects and decorations of their own that no modder could generate by itself. From rabbit holes, plants and decorations to unique architectures.
I would love it if they went back to selling worlds just as much as i would love CAW.
I am really hoping if they release just CAW, that the cc creators start being more creative also.

Part of the problem is that a lot of those worlds were from an expansion pack. But Sunlit Tides, Roaring Heights, Monte Vista were WONDERFUL additions to Sims3.

Hmmm.... I would def buy World Packs. A new neighborhood, with some new build/buy items, clothing, pre-made sims. I might even not mind no new gameplay, as long as it seemed like a complete new world.

Heck, I'd spend §9.99 on Strangetown, Sunset Valley, Bridgeport, etc..

The only thing I want broke back is swimmable oceans and possibly boats and mermaids. And all nautical related things. Please and thank you.

"Karon;c-16654711" wrote:
Oh, and... look at these:

Pleasantview
https://img00.deviantart.net/1a56/i/2017/176/d/1/_sims_4_fanmade_map__belavista___pleasantview_by_filipesims-dan5qeg.jpg

Strangetown
https://img00.deviantart.net/fe7d/i/2016/334/c/8/_sims_4_fanmade_map__estranhpolis___strangetown_by_filipesims-dan5qmp.jpg

Veronaville
https://img00.deviantart.net/4a1c/i/2016/334/6/9/_sims_4_fanmade_map__vila_verona___veronaville_by_filipesims-dan5qxt.jpg

Belladonna Cove
https://img00.deviantart.net/6d80/i/2016/334/1/d/_sims_4_fanmade_map__belladonna_cove_by_filipesims-dapp53m.jpg

Riverblossom Hills
https://img00.deviantart.net/4b24/i/2016/334/5/3/_sims_4_fanmade_map__riverblossom_hills_by_filipesims-daoub4z.jpg

Magic Town
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__cidade_da_magia___magic_town_by_filipesims-daoub5o.jpg

Studio Town
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__studio_town_by_filipesims-daoub4b.jpg

Old Town
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__cidade_velha___old_town_by_filipesims-danbv5o.jpg

Vacation Island
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/15b_by_filipesims-dao5pqh.jpg

Twikkii Island
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__twikkii_island_by_filipesims-dao5psg.jpg

Takemizu Village
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__takemizu_village_by_filipesims-dao5r08.jpg

Bridgeport
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__bridgeport_by_filipesims-dan5qvm.jpg

Sunset Valley
http://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/sims_4_fanmade_map__sunset_valley_by_filipesims-dan5qq3.jpg

Monte Vista
http://img14.deviantart.net/772d/i/2016/327/2/1/_sims_4_fanmade_map__monte_vista_by_filipesims-dapdgex.jpg

There is probably more out there, but... Look how cute they would be in Sims 4. I mean, you can clearly see that some of them are not 100% the same as the originals, but i would be okay with that. It looks so amazing! I just wish that they gave more attention for us, older simmers... I mea... There is a brazilian youtuber phrase that descibres what i feel: "I am a FAN, i want SERVICE!". hahahaha

Those are amazing and I agree, the nostalgia is so incredible. I would love to have these and you're right, I am a FAN and that's why I keep playing. Been playing since the beginning and always hope for some of the things that make it what it has become.

"Karon;c-16658494" wrote:



Oh, its ok. I was just worried that people could misunderstand what i was trying to point.
And, hm, I do not know if I agree with you. While some worlds created by modders for The Sims 3 like Saaqartoq (inspired by Greenland) or Setra (inspired by Egypt) were well unique and detailed, most of the worlds did not look anything different from what we already had in the game.
I want CAW more by wanting a bigger variety of lots than by custom worlds. Like, I wasnt excited about Magnolia Promenade or Newcrest when it was released cuz it just looks like something that should be part of Willow Creek, i was just happy to have more space to play with. Lets take Forgotten Hollow as an example. It is small, but i was just as happy cuz it had a entirely different setting and feel to it. If they had took their time to create a big sized world (like NC) with a unique aspect (like FH) i would end up thrice as happy as i got with those two separate worlds.
In Sims 3 we had the same problem in the beginning. Riverview, Barnacle Bay and Hidden Springs dont look so different from Sunset Valley. Maybe the grass was a little less green or more green, but does never satisfied me.
But then they learned how they should have been doing that. We had oasis inspired Lucky Palms, the beautiful island of Sunlit Tides (that looked different form both Isla Paradiso and Barnacle Bay), the italian inspired Monet Vista, the icelandic themed Aurora Skies and much more after that. Those TS3 store worlds (and later EP worlds) were not only beautiful but they were also unique. They had objects and decorations of their own that no modder could generate by itself. From rabbit holes, plants and decorations to unique architectures.
I would love it if they went back to selling worlds just as much as i would love CAW.
I am really hoping if they release just CAW, that the cc creators start being more creative also.

I think that I get what you're saying. Most likely, if TS4 had CAW, there might still be the same sense of 'sameness' (?) that you felt with TS3. It's harder to make a world that seems totally different when the creators are dependent on the same limited CAW elements.

EA definitely has the edge when it comes to the creation of completely new stuff. Like what they did with Brindleton Bay. That world reused some elements from the previous worlds, but it had a lot that was new as well.

"Cynna;c-16660395" wrote:

"Karon;c-16658494" wrote:



Oh, its ok. I was just worried that people could misunderstand what i was trying to point.
And, hm, I do not know if I agree with you. While some worlds created by modders for The Sims 3 like Saaqartoq (inspired by Greenland) or Setra (inspired by Egypt) were well unique and detailed, most of the worlds did not look anything different from what we already had in the game.
I want CAW more by wanting a bigger variety of lots than by custom worlds. Like, I wasnt excited about Magnolia Promenade or Newcrest when it was released cuz it just looks like something that should be part of Willow Creek, i was just happy to have more space to play with. Lets take Forgotten Hollow as an example. It is small, but i was just as happy cuz it had a entirely different setting and feel to it. If they had took their time to create a big sized world (like NC) with a unique aspect (like FH) i would end up thrice as happy as i got with those two separate worlds.
In Sims 3 we had the same problem in the beginning. Riverview, Barnacle Bay and Hidden Springs dont look so different from Sunset Valley. Maybe the grass was a little less green or more green, but does never satisfied me.
But then they learned how they should have been doing that. We had oasis inspired Lucky Palms, the beautiful island of Sunlit Tides (that looked different form both Isla Paradiso and Barnacle Bay), the italian inspired Monet Vista, the icelandic themed Aurora Skies and much more after that. Those TS3 store worlds (and later EP worlds) were not only beautiful but they were also unique. They had objects and decorations of their own that no modder could generate by itself. From rabbit holes, plants and decorations to unique architectures.
I would love it if they went back to selling worlds just as much as i would love CAW.
I am really hoping if they release just CAW, that the cc creators start being more creative also.

I think that I get what you're saying. Most likely, if TS4 had CAW, there might still be the same sense of 'sameness' (?) that you felt with TS3. It's harder to make a world that seems totally different when the creators are dependent on the same limited CAW elements.

EA definitely has the edge when it comes to the creation of completely new stuff. Like what they did with Brindleton Bay. That world reused some elements from the previous worlds, but it had a lot that was new as well.

Maybe in Sims 4 the modders can convert assets from sims 3. In SIms 2 we didnt had that many assets to use in Sims 3. IDK, lets see what happens.

@Nindigo
I was thinking, maybe they could add Neighborhood 1 from sims 1 as a 20yrs anniversary gift or something. That would be really cool!

"Karon;c-16664117" wrote:


Maybe in Sims 4 the modders can convert assets from sims 3. In SIms 2 we didnt had that many assets to use in Sims 3. IDK, lets see what happens.

That would be my hope. Or even totally new stuff. Toward the end of TS3, mod creators were making all kinds of interesting assets for CAW. :)

"Karon;c-16665050" wrote:
@Nindigo
I was thinking, maybe they could add Neighborhood 1 from sims 1 as a 20yrs anniversary gift or something. That would be really cool!

An updated version of the original Neighborhood (plus extensions ?) would be a really nice way to celebrate twenty years. So many memories. <3

"Cynna;c-16665859" wrote:
An updated version of the original Neighborhood (plus extensions ?) would be a really nice way to celebrate twenty years. So many memories. <3

Yes. I would love to now how the neighbors are going... We dont see them since Sims 1. Only the Goths, the Newbies and the Pleasants appeared in later games. They could even add Bella's brother and Mortimers parents to the family tree... I want to see the Mashugas from "Neighborhood 2", as well as the Jones, Hatfield, Snooty Patoty... etc...
I really wouldnt care if they had to broke it down into districts/smaller neighorhoods. I think it could even add to the nostalgia, since sims 1 released with only the small portion were the Goths and the Newbies lived!