Royality/Nobility houses

They are part of both houses because the familial relationships still remain.

Yes, she still belong to the house and the family. But it depends on the court protocol which rank they are going have. I think the japanese court dismiss the female children from royalty (losing their titles, privileges) when they are going to marry a man. In other courts they keep them. But I'm not an expert in asian courts.

At least the europeen nobles are all related over the edges and they help each other more or less. Which means for example the german high nobles, who have lost all their ranks and titles, when germany became a republic, are still connect to other kingdoms and invited to social events, like wedding or new marriages. The ex-emperor, which we have thrown out, found an exile in the nederland with an invitation of the king (or queen?) then, but he was forced to live on one place and wasn't allowed to move more than 15 km away from his house.

I think that very much depends. Which house is of of higher standing? Is she the heiress of House Grey? Can women even inherit? How does a inheritance work, anyway? Primogeniture or Ultimogeniture? Absolute, equal or agnatic? Is it a Matrilineal or Patrilineal society?

In this case, you'd be safe to make up your own rules. Many countries do things differently and their rules change and have changed over time to fit different circumstances (and they've made exceptions as they felt the need as well).

If this is the correct line for my Sevier family, the original name was Xavier taken from a village, of the same name. It has it's own castle. Legend has it a female was the last in her line. She married a man who took on her noble line, name and all, to help keep this family line going, as it were. Don't know if this helps or not, but titles can be transferred. The kingdom, Navarre, which at that time was leaning more toward France. (To the point that when King Henry of Navarre passed away, the people enticed Henry of France to become their king.) That is until Spain went to war and claimed Navarre as their own. Just recently, Spain was ever so gracious to allow Navarre to fly their own flag. Navarre sits in the Pyrenees that wraps around between the border of Spain and France.

"Daravi;c-17797064" wrote:
Yes, she still belong to the house and the family. But it depends on the court protocol which rank they are going have. I think the japanese court dismiss the female children from royalty (losing their titles, privileges) when they are going to marry a man. In other courts they keep them. But I'm not an expert in asian courts.

At least the europeen nobles are all related over the edges and they help each other more or less. Which means for example the german high nobles, who have lost all their ranks and titles, when germany became a republic, are still connect to other kingdoms and invited to social events, like wedding or new marriages. The ex-emperor, which we have thrown out, found an exile in the nederland with an invitation of the king (or queen?) then, but he was forced to live on one place and wasn't allowed to move more than 15 km away from his house.

Interestingly enough in Japan agnatic primogeniture is a result of the post war constitution imposed by the US. Previously a woman would inherit if there was no male heir, although she would normally abdicate in favour of her male heir. This is something the Japanese royal family and government will have to confront eventually, as they have had trouble producing male heirs for the last 5 or 6 generations

Thanks all for your valuable input :) Once again, I realize that the easiest path will be to just decide something, hehe. I should have known the real world is just as diverse as our games.

Higher status could indeed have an impact, I guess every house would want to see highly ranked persons as part of their House. About heritance, in my game all those older peerages requires male heirs, but I finally understood that the House and the Peerage is two different systems. So, even if peerages still run by their old fashioned patent, I assume the families (houses) need to follow the general community laws, being gender neutral.

Some suggested that Lady Grey would belong to both houses, and I might just decide that the sovereign of each House will decide who are members of his house. I guess only children who become criminal or upsetting their parents by marrying the "wrong" spouse might be declared no longer a member of House of Grey. Even that sounds a bit harsh, but it might be a logical consequence.

In the past I based my entire high society structure on those peerages, but it really messed things up when one house got 3 peerages of different rank. It makes the game interesting when I need to sort out stuff like this and not only have sims eat, sleep, work, knit and woohoo :)

I believe in my country the female takes the male “name” but they are still is part of their own nobility bloodline unless they are queen as nothing trumps the monarch so if a queen is married her husband would be Prince consort. A king would have a queen consort as queen is lower rank then king. Males have always trumped females and ranking is everything. My country has a class issue, always will do and is part of our identities even down to the working class folk.

I didn't know people can make royal houses. Where do you do that?

"Sim19k;c-17797841" wrote:
I didn't know people can make royal houses. Where do you do that?

In this thread House is meant more like an upper class family or even a dynasty, and not so much the building, although I guess a House like that would also have at least one nicer manor, they would most likely own several. In real life there are houses/families that live on the edge of bankruptcy - they are still considered a house and might still hold noble titles. For game play you will mostly add quite a bit of pretending.

That said, most simmers who play royals or nobility use custom content. Google royal cc for the sims 4 and you should find some on patreon, tumblr and blogs. Also check modthesims. There even exist a full mod pack with a set up for playing royals with titles, rituals etc (I never tried that mod though).