Maybe this is a bug, but I doubt it. I built a karaoke bar with arcade machines, and put one of the new food stalls out front with a seating area. But just like bartenders or baristas when it isn't the exact right type of lot, no one mans it. I'm supposed to pay $100 to hire someone. Come on. I mean, what's the point? It's not like anyone gets free food even if I pay the $100. If you can program the game to have multiple vendors in a common area, then why can't you do the same for regular lots? I'm not even sure where I'm supposed to be able to use these, then. As much as I love the new expansion, there are always so many limitations to what you can do with things. There are so many objects that even if they function, get totally ignored by sims unless you direct them to it. I put a karaoke machine in a nightclub, for example, and no one uses it. Weird way to program; it's like only certain items exist to sims on different lot types.

YES!!!!!!! Urgh, this is my great big annoyance this week.I was so excited that I could place the food carts in other areas. I put the taco one in the park at Oasis Springs, and the tea one in Willow Creek's park. And I was so pleased with myself till I realised that if I wanted a cup of tea I had to fork out $100 to hire a flippin vendor! If I went to a park in real life, I wouldn't have to hire someone to come and attend the food stand, there would be someone there already. It's unrealistic. Uuuuuurrrrrrrgh!!!!!!Yeah. I'm really grumpy about this.I can easily mod it so that there is no fee (I did this for the drinks bar and coffee bar) but it's not ideal because I still have to hire them and it breaks the immersion. I just want a vendor or barista to show up on their own accord. If I own the venue, or it's on a residential lot, then fine. But if I'm a customer then I want someone to be there to serve me my tacos and tea dagnammit!!! :D :D :D I really do hope the gurus address this. Because it's silly and frustrating. And it really limits the flexibility of these objects. My logic is: if I put a bar, coffee bar, or food stand on a community lot, then I obviously want an NPC to tend it. It's not there to look pretty. Something like a buffet table is different: it's more suited to special occasions where I might want it as a one-off.https://twitter.com/Cinderellimouse/status/794319815578177538https://twitter.com/Cinderellimouse/status/794311505793732611 At first I thought maybe if I gave them time that the vendors would show up on their own. A bit like how they open and close the stands in the city. So I was quiet at first while I tested them and played around with them some more. But after spending a couple of days at each lot nobody ever came to tend them. :(

What?!!! But... but I've been adding them to my parks... so, no point in doing that then? :s

@Cinderellimouse Are you really surprised?

"Cinderellimouse;15334633" wrote:YES!!!!!!! Urgh, this is my great big annoyance this week.I was so excited that I could place the food carts in other areas. I put the taco one in the park at Oasis Springs, and the tea one in Willow Creek's park. And I was so pleased with myself till I realised that if I wanted a cup of tea I had to fork out $100 to hire a flippin vendor! If I went to a park in real life, I wouldn't have to hire someone to come and attend the food stand, there would be someone there already. It's unrealistic. Uuuuuurrrrrrrgh!!!!!!Yeah. I'm really grumpy about this.I can easily mod it so that there is no fee (I did this for the drinks bar and coffee bar) but it's not ideal because I still have to hire them and it breaks the immersion. I just want a vendor or barista to show up on their own accord. If I own the venue, or it's on a residential lot, then fine. But if I'm a customer then I want someone to be there to serve me my tacos and tea dagnammit!!! :D :D :D I really do hope the gurus address this. Because it's silly and frustrating. And it really limits the flexibility of these objects. My logic is: if I put a bar, coffee bar, or food stand on a community lot, then I obviously want an NPC to tend it. It's not there to look pretty. Something like a buffet table is different: it's more suited to special occasions where I might want it as a one-off.https://twitter.com/Cinderellimouse/status/794319815578177538https://twitter.com/Cinderellimouse/status/794311505793732611 At first I thought maybe if I gave them time that the vendors would show up on their own. A bit like how they open and close the stands in the city. So I was quiet at first while I tested them and played around with them some more. But after spending a couple of days at each lot nobody ever came to tend them. :( That's funny, because I just discovered your mod to take care of the baristas and bar after I posted this, lol. Yes, a mod would help for the stalls, too, and that would certainly work, but it is so silly like you said that they can't just work properly to begin with. Any objects that I have to kick start myself tend to eventually get ignored for the most part.

"PHOEBESMOM601;15334660" wrote:@Cinderellimouse Are you really surprised? Disappointed might be a better word in this case.Edit: Not in the whole pack. But certainly in this detail.

Seriously? Again with the "hire vendor" for the food stalls?

orkhid22
9 years ago
Very disappointing. I feel if it isn't on a residential lot, or your sim is hosting a party, then an NPC should be spawned.
simgirl1010
Hero
9 years ago
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

Good idea but we know how long that could take. :/
@Cinderellimouse, thanks. :)
Cinderellimouse
9 years ago
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

I thought we were by posting feedback in threads like these. But in the meantime...

"luthienrising;15334732" wrote:
If you do make that mod, Cinderellimouse , post it here? It would be nice to save the money cheat after hiring, and I do have a couple of places I want to stick a food cart.

I'm just testing now. I've changed the value from $100 to $0. So we'll still have to hire them, but at least it won't cost us. I hope one of us can figure out a better way.
CapitanTony
9 years ago
"Cinderellimouse;15334730" wrote:
@ravynwolvf I'll upload a mod either later this evening or tomorrow because it's bugging me too. XD I do need to check the bar and barista mods to see if I need to add and new CL interactions, so there may be an update for those too. I'd hold on before downloading those until I've checked them. I got distracted by poking at the new files.

That would be most excellent! I'll be keeping an eye out for updates on the others, too, now that I found them; most useful.
PsychoSimXX
9 years ago
$100 per vender with 8 max per lot. I changed my mind about building a community lot with loads of vendors.
luthienrising
Hero+
9 years ago
"GoddessSims;15334900" wrote:
$100 per vender with 8 max per lot. I changed my mind about building a community lot with loads of vendors.

There's no 8 Sims maximum using a lot; that's the household maximum. Up to 20 Sims can be in the lot+neighbourhood at a time.

"Cinderellimouse;15334892" wrote:
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

I thought we were by posting feedback in threads like these. But in the meantime...

"luthienrising;15334732" wrote:
If you do make that mod, Cinderellimouse , post it here? It would be nice to save the money cheat after hiring, and I do have a couple of places I want to stick a food cart.

I'm just testing now. I've changed the value from $100 to $0. So we'll still have to hire them, but at least it won't cost us. I hope one of us can figure out a better way.

Awesome! My warehouse cafe is looking forward to having an arrangement with another small business to use its yard :)
PsychoSimXX
9 years ago
"luthienrising;15334931" wrote:
"GoddessSims;15334900" wrote:
$100 per vender with 8 max per lot. I changed my mind about building a community lot with loads of vendors.

There's no 8 Sims maximum using a lot; that's the household maximum. Up to 20 Sims can be in the lot+neighbourhood at a time.

"Cinderellimouse;15334892" wrote:
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

I thought we were by posting feedback in threads like these. But in the meantime...

"luthienrising;15334732" wrote:
If you do make that mod, Cinderellimouse , post it here? It would be nice to save the money cheat after hiring, and I do have a couple of places I want to stick a food cart.

I'm just testing now. I've changed the value from $100 to $0. So we'll still have to hire them, but at least it won't cost us. I hope one of us can figure out a better way.

Awesome! My warehouse cafe is looking forward to having an arrangement with another small business to use its yard :)

I wasn't talking about the max of Sims per household. I was talking about vendors and those you can only have 8 working at a time per lot.
luthienrising
Hero+
9 years ago
"GoddessSims;15334951" wrote:
"luthienrising;15334931" wrote:
"GoddessSims;15334900" wrote:
$100 per vender with 8 max per lot. I changed my mind about building a community lot with loads of vendors.

There's no 8 Sims maximum using a lot; that's the household maximum. Up to 20 Sims can be in the lot+neighbourhood at a time.

"Cinderellimouse;15334892" wrote:
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

I thought we were by posting feedback in threads like these. But in the meantime...

"luthienrising;15334732" wrote:
If you do make that mod, Cinderellimouse , post it here? It would be nice to save the money cheat after hiring, and I do have a couple of places I want to stick a food cart.

I'm just testing now. I've changed the value from $100 to $0. So we'll still have to hire them, but at least it won't cost us. I hope one of us can figure out a better way.

Awesome! My warehouse cafe is looking forward to having an arrangement with another small business to use its yard :)

I wasn't talking about the max of Sims per household. I was talking about vendors and those you can only have 8 working at a time per lot.

Ah okay. Can't imagine wanting more than that anyway. But now I know :)
jasonsterlingrm
9 years ago
"Cinderellimouse;15334892" wrote:
"Cinebar;15334741" wrote:
How about asking them to fix it.

I thought we were by posting feedback in threads like these. But in the meantime...

"luthienrising;15334732" wrote:
If you do make that mod, Cinderellimouse , post it here? It would be nice to save the money cheat after hiring, and I do have a couple of places I want to stick a food cart.

I'm just testing now. I've changed the value from $100 to $0. So we'll still have to hire them, but at least it won't cost us. I hope one of us can figure out a better way.

I don't mind hiring them as long as it's free-lol. In the meantime I'm so used to typing in cheats I just up my sim's income to reflect what I need to open the stalls.
Cinderellimouse
9 years ago
Here we are: https://simsinthewoods.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/ts4-download-hire-market-vendors-for-free/

Let me know how you get on with it please. I've tested it in game myself and everything seems to be working well. I'm updating the bar and barista mods now.