Seriously, what's the logic behind bills anyway?

"MaggieMarley;c-17262207" wrote:

"Stutum;c-17262203" wrote:
Alright, something is definitely wrong. I got sick of festivals slowing down the already slow ultra-speed and nagging neighbours, so I moved my sim to a small house in Strangeville. Made sure my household inventory was empty, had average quality stuff, got my first bill and it was a bit over 23K. Fair enough, I can live with that. Another month passes and now it's 170K! What the actual plum tree ready for harvest? The only thing I bought after moving in was a vault for my sim's fortune. That's it. Again, this makes no sense whatsoever. My sim can afford it though, and I'm tired of moving her around like a grasshopper, so I'll let her stay there for now, at least until they start claiming millions.

@Stutum the vault is the problem. That drives up bills. If you put, say, 500,000 simoleons in a money vault that has the same effect on your bills as if you had a collection of collectibles worth 500,000 simoleons on the lot.

Ah, thanks! I have had 4 mills in there, so that makes sense. It's too bad, it was fun to watch my sim play and take naps in the money pile, but the vault is definitely going.

"FurSimsOfficial;c-17261022" wrote:
Why are sims wearing winter clothes in the house??!! I dont get it, it drives me crazy. i thought they fixed it, but here we are.. one year later and still. Pls developers, fix this in the next patch.

Beside that, I wish that bills would matter on the actual times of water you use and how many electric devises are on and being used in the house. It should be so simple. the amount of lights you have and a certain amount of money per hour of tv, computer, dishwasher etc.

His sims were wearing winter clothes indoors because he turned the heat off in the winter. Where I live irl if you did that you would have to wear your winter clothes indoors too. What the team fixed was sims changing to winter clothes indoors even with the heat on. Not to mention the fact that you can have it not look weird by having at least one cold weather outfit be regular clothes, since anything they wear in that category will protect them from the cold.

"MaggieMarley;c-17262220" wrote:

"Stutum;c-17262212" wrote:

"MaggieMarley;c-17262207" wrote:

"Stutum;c-17262203" wrote:
Alright, something is definitely wrong. I got sick of festivals slowing down the already slow ultra-speed and nagging neighbours, so I moved my sim to a small house in Strangeville. Made sure my household inventory was empty, had average quality stuff, got my first bill and it was a bit over 23K. Fair enough, I can live with that. Another month passes and now it's 170K! What the actual plum tree ready for harvest? The only thing I bought after moving in was a vault for my sim's fortune. That's it. Again, this makes no sense whatsoever. My sim can afford it though, and I'm tired of moving her around like a grasshopper, so I'll let her stay there for now, at least until they start claiming millions.

@Stutum the vault is the problem. That drives up bills. If you put, say, 500,000 simoleons in a money vault that has the same effect on your bills as if you had a collection of collectibles worth 500,000 simoleons on the lot.

Ah, thanks! I have had 4 mills in there, so that makes sense. It's too bad, it was fun to watch my sim play and take naps in the money pile, but the vault is definitely going.

Yeah that’d do it :D

It is a shame. Makes the money vault useless.

It's gone now, but yeah, it's too bad. At least I know what to get if I some day really want my sims to pay through their nose. :P

I recently started my Sims growing Money Trees and Dragon fruit ... they sell the fruit every morning and can get upwards of 30k per tree everyday, provided the Sims take care of the plants. Both the trees and the fruit are top quality.

I want bills system remimagined

Depending on neighbourhood or world, when you move into a lot you have to sign up to a supplier of water and you get to three options to choose who to sign up for with different prices and if you pay higher costs you will get better quality companies

Cheap bill - chances of water being cut off due to contamination or chance of illness/power cut off
Higher bill-
Water /electric meter> option to pay for as you use could be challenging with large families and those with gardens and sprinklers
Gas etc

Every so often you get to the end of your deal and have to choose a new one


Option for different money accounts and household funds I do use a mod to sort of achieve this currently but I would love it in game without using mods so you can set up saving account for children so when teens grow up and. Move out they can have funds to buy a house so it’s more realistic

When you don’t pay your bills a debt collector should come round and take some of your belongings if you can’t pay!

Option to rent/buy houses so you pay interest on your bills depending on your career experience,household funds etc

I feel that the bills at times are way too high. If you own the items, you don't keep paying for them and the value of the house is only when you buy it. Sure rent of some houses might cost more if they are bigger; but a few houses I have are over $14,000 and those aren't even really fancy mansions for celebs.

I get some people want a challenge; but sometimes it is too difficult to keep up without cheating.

i like the bills in TS4. they keep my sims humble. i find the game gets a little boring when my sims have abundant funds, and i like that the bills are there every week to keep them on their toes. plus, my sims don't tend to live in large, expensive homes. the most i've ever had for bills was around 6k

True, when the game is too easy it becames boring

I see the bills as a challenge. How boring would it not be if my sim lived in a huge mansion packed with all the most expensive stuff but had minimum income so the bills were almost zero? I rather like them to pay bills according to how they live their lives. Getting more expensive stuff indicates a higher economical status life including more expensive activities. I liked what someone said about higher insurance and also storage fee if keeping stuff in inventory.

Regarding RL, where I live we pay taxes based on both income and what we own, so I never actually questioned the bills in TS4. Except the butler charging when I don't play that lot, of course, but they are all fired by now :)

Why would your inventory and household inventory contribute to the bills? That's really dumb.