It will be seven years the sims 4 was released this september and if continue development is truly planned for two more years, I wonder if the base game should start combining or bundling early game packs into itself as base content that all players get.This topic has kinda of exploded in a thousand different directions but basically my question posed was should/would the Sims 4 be better posed for the future if development is truly to continue into the the next few years, bundling early packs into the base game purchase so that all players have access to them now and provides a fuller game for early adopters vs facing $700 of "catch up".Much like World of Warcraft has done with past expansions years after they are released by including them into the base game for ALL members and only charging for the most recent expansions. Although I doubt Maxis will do this as WoW has a subscription model in play too...but than I wonder if that will be the future of the next sims game... Anyway your thoughts?(edited to simplify my question lol)

while i do agree that there should be One major pack which adds to the game. For instance, the bust the dust could have came with laundry stuff and laundry stuff could have been added to a cleaning pack or something. i also think seasons should come with the base game. If anything they should have like one big pack with certain things in it which add to the game- then it would be really worth about $40.00

I wish pets were base game so they could add new pet stuff with each new pack. That always makes me sad to never get new pet stuff since it can’t be included in expansions if not everyone owns it.

No it doesn't. This makes no sense.

This is why I think that TS5 will most likely be a subscription service game. It’s the only feasible way for base game to come with everything everyone is always yelling should be in base game and still be at a price most can afford and work on a multitude of computers. It would live on servers at EA/Maxis instead of individual computers, and then they can still add new content through updates without overwhelming individual systems. I wouldn’t mind if TS4 gets enhancements to its base, I would welcome it. I am always up for more. I genuinely enjoy the game. There’s talk of them possibly adding the calendar from Seasons to base game and I think that’s fine, especially if it means they can expand the functionality of it for all players. I have the pack, but moving the calendar to base game means they can tie its features to more packs and expand its features.

"Pamtastic72;c-17856403" wrote:This is why I think that TS5 will most likely be a subscription service game. It’s the only feasible way for base game to come with everything everyone is always yelling should be in base game and still be at a price most can afford and work on a multitude of computers. It would live on servers at EA/Maxis instead of individual computers, and then they can still add new content through updates without overwhelming individual systems. I wouldn’t mind if TS4 gets enhancements to its base, I would welcome it. I am always up for more. I genuinely enjoy the game. There’s talk of them possibly adding the calendar from Seasons to base game and I think that’s fine, especially if it means they can expand the functionality of it for all players. I have the pack, but moving the calendar to base game means they can tie its features to more packs and expand its features.Lmao no. First, EA has a terrible track record with servers, and given how many people play The Sims it would be hell to connect to them. Secondly you'd loose the ability to play offline. Thirdly, you'd own literally nothing, you wouldn't even have the files in your pc.People say "it should be in the BG" because the BG literally had nothing, and Maxis has had us pay for things that were in it in the past.Always find it hilarious when people advocate for worse business decisions then what we already get. If you're unsatisfied with the content in past EP's that's because they weren't good and lacked content, period. Which they did, look at TS3 and then look at TS4. Pets for instance is 100x better than Cats and Dogs.

Should base game bundle early packs into it for all players to own now?

76 Replies

Sunflowergal227
Hero (Retired)
5 years ago
while i do agree that there should be One major pack which adds to the game. For instance, the bust the dust could have came with laundry stuff and laundry stuff could have been added to a cleaning pack or something. i also think seasons should come with the base game. If anything they should have like one big pack with certain things in it which add to the game- then it would be really worth about $40.00
permanentrose537
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I wish pets were base game so they could add new pet stuff with each new pack. That always makes me sad to never get new pet stuff since it can’t be included in expansions if not everyone owns it.
Sigzy_29
Legend
5 years ago
No it doesn't. This makes no sense.
JanuaryGarnet08
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
This is why I think that TS5 will most likely be a subscription service game. It’s the only feasible way for base game to come with everything everyone is always yelling should be in base game and still be at a price most can afford and work on a multitude of computers. It would live on servers at EA/Maxis instead of individual computers, and then they can still add new content through updates without overwhelming individual systems.

I wouldn’t mind if TS4 gets enhancements to its base, I would welcome it. I am always up for more. I genuinely enjoy the game. There’s talk of them possibly adding the calendar from Seasons to base game and I think that’s fine, especially if it means they can expand the functionality of it for all players. I have the pack, but moving the calendar to base game means they can tie its features to more packs and expand its features.
Sigzy_29
Legend
5 years ago
"Pamtastic72;c-17856403" wrote:
This is why I think that TS5 will most likely be a subscription service game. It’s the only feasible way for base game to come with everything everyone is always yelling should be in base game and still be at a price most can afford and work on a multitude of computers. It would live on servers at EA/Maxis instead of individual computers, and then they can still add new content through updates without overwhelming individual systems.

I wouldn’t mind if TS4 gets enhancements to its base, I would welcome it. I am always up for more. I genuinely enjoy the game. There’s talk of them possibly adding the calendar from Seasons to base game and I think that’s fine, especially if it means they can expand the functionality of it for all players. I have the pack, but moving the calendar to base game means they can tie its features to more packs and expand its features.

Lmao no. First, EA has a terrible track record with servers, and given how many people play The Sims it would be hell to connect to them. Secondly you'd loose the ability to play offline. Thirdly, you'd own literally nothing, you wouldn't even have the files in your pc.

People say "it should be in the BG" because the BG literally had nothing, and Maxis has had us pay for things that were in it in the past.

Always find it hilarious when people advocate for worse business decisions then what we already get. If you're unsatisfied with the content in past EP's that's because they weren't good and lacked content, period. Which they did, look at TS3 and then look at TS4. Pets for instance is 100x better than Cats and Dogs.
DukeOfAntwerp
Seasoned Hotshot
5 years ago
Well as I just bought 6 expansion packs I would say: hell no! But I have to agree with you. I played sims 2 and 3. Not obsessively but I remember playing them and I was rather confused when I went to research which packs were good to buy as they were on sale and read and saw everywhere I had to buy Seasons to complete my game. I hadn't even noticed that pack and never would have bought it if I hadn't researched the packs. After buying and installing it I understood immediately why everyone recommended that pack because as everyone said "the world comes to life". But I wanted more than just what Seasons added. I definitely wanted Get Famous no matter what the commentary on that pack was. It's my play style as I don't care for family building. After buying that one I understood why it's not the best rated pack, stuff was still missing for my play style. I had to by like 3 expansions packs to be able to play Get famous as it should be. When I also bought Eco Lifestyle and noticed that suddenly my telephone was displaying my telephone messages like it should be in the base game I started to understand the sentiment about cash grabs. I bought all the packs at 50% off but it still feels expensive for what you get. There are so much mechanics that makes a sim game that are spread over multiple packs that I understand why I shelved the game 3 years ago after playing only a few hours to discover today you have to pay loads of money to actually enjoy the sims. I don't remember the sims being like that in previous versions. I liked the sims but didn't need multiple packs for that.
Myrthella
5 years ago
Your plan sounds like it will cause a LOT of problems. Think of all the people who bought the pack, sometimes even for 40,-, and now they're going to add them for free? The backlash will be INSANE.
Onverser
5 years ago
I definitely don't want content I've payed a lot of money for being added to the base game for free. No thanks :#
SimmerGeorge
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
"Pamtastic72;c-17856403" wrote:
It would live on servers at EA/Maxis instead of individual computers, and then they can still add new content through updates without overwhelming individual systems.

@Pamtastic72 Why would it not overwhelm individual systems? I didn't understand what you mean there. Can you clarify?
imahulazombie
5 years ago
well i agree that basic content like weather, cats & dogs for example, should be base game. however i really doubt that ea will patch big things as of now, because some people that paid for these features would get upset. although in a devs screenshot it seems they are going to patch the calendar into the base game, but it's not confirmed. technically devs already patch pack features to the base game every now & then.

but perhaps if sims 6 ever gets released (lol), or when ts4 ends its development and ea decides to stop milking it for some reason, we'll probably get The Sims 4 Ultimate Collection or something like with ts1 & ts2, i mean people paid for ts1 & ts2 content back then yet the whole games were given for free or are available for anyone to download since it became abandonware.
though some people still buys them from third parties.

anyways i don't know if ts3 & ts4 will get free collections because i feel like ea doesn't sell ts1 & ts2 cuz back then Maxis was a lot different than it is now, perhaps for legal reasons they can't sell them or they made a deal with mr.Wright, dunno.