Sims 4 game balance is a joke

"ReclusiveEagle;c-17856657" wrote:

"Sigzy05;c-17856537" wrote:
Did the gym have any lot traits out of curiosity?

Yeah I feel like the game lacks proper balancing too. In regards to...a lot of things. Careers, needs, emotions etc. I think one of the reasons though is because the developers are putting things they shouldn't over proper game design. One annoyance to me is how sims in TS4 tarts skills at level 1...I never got that. In previous games sims started from 0.

Just the Gym breeze thing. San Myshuno gym.

Yeah...that makes sims energized while working out. I've been to that gym and if the gym trainer autonomously mentors your sim while that buff is active they'll level up like crazy.

I get the fitness level with all boosts and training, also that trainer being friend, as that does happen fast.
But also charisma and comedy? 3 levels in both too, in 3 minutes?

Oh yeah have you tried Retail lately? Your sim will end up being friends with the whole world because of how much you need to socialize to make a sale and guess what sims also get sentiments with customers they just met...

Not to talk about how unbalanced the income is and how rich you can get in a few hours of gameplay. Or how easy some jobs are. One example, I have never failed an audition in the acting career since Get Famous came out.

Also another completely unbalanced system is this game is the social event system. I have gold events even when I'm trying to make them bad. The meter fills up to gold in the first few seconds, what's the point?

The multi-tasking feature allows for Sims to level up more than one skill at once. I've seen three increased at a time once in my own game although I don't usually pay attention to it. Sounds like your Sim was doing a lot. If you have a lot of packs you end up with a lot of potential skills, so this feature can be a help for those who are juggling multiple Sims. On the other hand, it can also take control away from the player by granting extra skills through autonomy. This can get frustrating. I've had to use cheats sometimes to actually remove certain skills from some of my Sims because they didn't fit the personality.

I wonder if the multitasking feature can be tuned down or if it's just a thing that does what it does. Also, I suspect that all Sims have autonomous behaviors regardless of the toggle, because I've heard of other people having issues with rampant autonomy after disabling.

You could try making a bug report on EA's Answer HQ site or posting about it in the feedback section.

"SimmerGeorge;c-17856799" wrote:
Oh yeah have you tried Retail lately? Your sim will end up being friends with the whole world because of how much you need to socialize to make a sale and guess what sims also get sentiments with customers they just met...

Not to talk about how unbalanced the income is and how rich you can get in a few hours of gameplay. Or how easy some jobs are. One example, I have never failed an audition in the acting career since Get Famous came out.

Also another completely unbalanced system is this game is the social event system. I have gold events even when I'm trying to make them bad. The meter fills up to gold in the first few seconds, what's the point?

Yessir, basically as long as you have a "positive" emotion (Which again can basically be selected as you please at this point) you will never have a negative or failed interaction. And even if you do you pass it or its an extremely negligible negative that only results in a moodlet that doesn't override anything.

Even death in this game is a minor shoulder shrug. I get that its great to have the game play how you want it to play with no negatives unless its intentional but that's what cheats are for. Making it the default option with no say or negative consequences just destroys all core aspects of not just Sims 4 but the entire franchise.

Again, when literal death only last a few moments or becomes so inconsequential that it leaves the player unbothered because of all the extremely easy and cheap ways to instantly bring them back like nothing happened, then what even is the point of having negative traits and moodlets at all.

"Ellupelluellu;c-17856697" wrote:
I get the fitness level with all boosts and training, also that trainer being friend, as that does happen fast.
But also charisma and comedy? 3 levels in both too, in 3 minutes?

Because when you disable free will a single chat option results in a conversation loop that never ends unless you cancel it. Your Sim will literally pick and cycle endlessly through random friendly and funny conversation options until they either need to pee, eat or pass out from sleep. I'm guessing that's how that happened. Try it, your Sims will talk to each other for 20+ hours if their needs are full with a single click of any social interaction.

If a Sim went to a gym with a household member I guess it's possible that they could have run on treadmills next to one another and chatted which would have boosted Fitness and Charisma. If the treadmills were in front of a television, it's possible that they could have watched the Romance channel and gotten flirty. If Caleb shows up at a gym, he always changes it to the Cooking channel so my Sims tend to level the Cooking skill. I don't know about three levels though. Mine stop using a treadmill when the little timer gets full or they get tired. If they're not tired then they'll usually start using a different piece of equipment.

I've recently seen several of my Sims start knitting while they're using a workout machine. They got credit for both the Fitness and Knitting skills. Pretty smart.

Trainers do get to Good Friend status just by training even though they haven't actually met the Sim they're training, which is really annoying. They start calling right away wanting to visit and hang out or with invitation to meet them somewhere.

I've removed the Convivial trait from most of my venues because bartenders seem to be motivated to leave the bar to sit and chat with customers instead of serving drinks.

I agree that many parts of the game include a lot of mandatory socializing with Sims you have no interest in knowing.

I think because the game has a very small amount of obstacles - things that pull you back - it makes it kind of easy to achieve max level in almost all skills. I never saw my sims gain that many friends and level that many skills in 3 minutes, but it's def easy to skill up and make friends and even marry in the same day two sims meet.

I don't think sims 4 balance is broken though. I think it has a different balance than 3. I feel 4 is more connected to criativity and control. It has unique capabilities to create any story. While 3 is more like the game throws at you a lot of different options that will lead your sim in a unique life path.
I feel that in 4 i lead the game, while in 3 the game leads me.

When a game makes you feel like you're cheating to me that is being inbalanced. It's like the game is forever stuck in "free mode".

I always figured that's what all the cheats are there for. To give you a certain control. I personally don't see it as a good thing that the game feels almost cheaty in its attempt to give you more control (when in fact it takes a lot of your control and customizability away a lot of the times, like when it comes to worlds or controlling your population, or your sims action).

It's like the game is trying to give you control to "make believe" stories but at the same time it interferes with them constantly.

"texxx78;c-17856963" wrote:
I think because the game has a very small amount of obstacles - things that pull you back - it makes it kind of easy to achieve max level in almost all skills. I never saw my sims gain that many friends and level that many skills in 3 minutes, but it's def easy to skill up and make friends and even marry in the same day two sims meet.

I don't think sims 4 balance is broken though. I think it has a different balance than 3. I feel 4 is more connected to criativity and control. It has unique capabilities to create any story. While 3 is more like the game throws at you a lot of different options that will lead your sim in a unique life path.
I feel that in 4 i lead the game, while in 3 the game leads me.

I feel like it is less focused on creativity. The game pretty much tells you what to do and basically tells your how to do your story rather than giving you the creativity to make whatever story you want to.