As alot of people, I thought something wrong with my PC but then I realized it's just the game with the recent patches..Sims 4 has annoying stutter that happens when playing on large community lots and on homes with a lot of clutter..I have a gaming PC (GTX 1070, I7 8700k, 16 GB ram) and it seems the game cant take full advantage of my PC power, alot of people reported here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/OPEN-Camera-Stuttering-on-community-lots/td-p/8198382 And there's a video to show the stutter in community lots, its alot more obvious to me in med to big home with clutter items (EA objects not cc)..I thought my gtx 1050 ti is too weak for sims 4 at first then I upgraded to 1070 and more powerful processor, tried to test the game on a new fresh save with no mods on the new PC and the results were almost the the same as a year old save on my older PC..It seems the game can't take advantage of more resources of a powerful PC and starting to feel like sims 3 lag and issues with all packs installed? So much for their promise it"ll never have sims 3 issues? Why the 64-bit version still feels useless? Again..before you say you don't have any issue..I'm not testing this with one sim on an empty lot..its maintain 60 fps on that..but with community lots and home with more clutter items the stutter is noticeable and it seems its getting worse with more packs like the game is starting to have poor coding and cant take advantage of more PC power..

I'm wondering the same as Simburian and also if maybe your cache files need cleaning out because I'm also running a 1050 on 64 bit windows 10 and I rarely get any stutter or lag. I've an 8th generation Legacy lot that's pretty intense, and I get some slow down but not a frustrating amount.You might try running the repair tool from Origin as well.

"Simburian;c-17420092" wrote:Are you up-to-date on all the Windows 10 updates and graphic card ones? I have problems with logging on to the web Gallery every time after I get them as they reset. I'm tending to blame them now or my laptop by HP not catching up.Mind you I dropped my laptop against a metal radiator yesterday and it didn't affect it at all so recommend HP for that!I'm an IT guy and you don't need to update your graphics card everytime there's a new patch..benchmarks showed that older drivers (399.24 for nvidia) actually performed better than most recent ones..because most recent nvidia patches add new beta features (that I dont even use) that slows performance and the fixes come several months later that fixes only half of issues at most..you may only need to update your graphics card if you play the new games want driver optimization for it plus the new features (like Freesync nvidia patch..etc) As someone who's not interested in the newer trashy games (last game I have is tomb raider 2018) no need to get the latest update..in many games they cause more FPS stutter and you need to roll back My win 10 is updated..maybe not to latest build..the latest build including BIOS update actually slows performance few percent on intel system to favor security..People needs to stop thinking you need to update to the latest patches in windows and GPUs in order to get better performance, don't fix what isn't broken..This is EA poor management of resource when you play on ultra and on big lots or lots with alot of clutter..they repeating the same mistake of sims 3..too expensive to hire someone that can program this game to take advantage of powerful pcs?

I’m still fortunate in that my game is lag free even on large lots full of clutter, but the games are not always optimized properly, which causes random lag. What settings have you changed to try to fix it?I remember when I had Sims 3 on a different computer, no matter what I did, Island Paradise was a laggy mess. As soon as I uninstalled it, the game was completely lag free again. Even if it was the only EP installed, it caused unplayable lag. However, with every other pack installed, a ton of CC and store content there was none. :( I hope you can fix the stuttering.

"graventhe;c-17420110" wrote:"Simburian;c-17420092" wrote:Are you up-to-date on all the Windows 10 updates and graphic card ones? I have problems with logging on to the web Gallery every time after I get them as they reset. I'm tending to blame them now or my laptop by HP not catching up.Mind you I dropped my laptop against a metal radiator yesterday and it didn't affect it at all so recommend HP for that!I'm an IT guy and you don't need to update your graphics card everytime there's a new patch..benchmarks showed that older drivers (399.24 for nvidia) actually performed better than most recent ones..because most recent nvidia patches add new beta features (that I dont even use) that slows performance and the fixes come several months later that fixes only half of issues at most..you may only need to update your graphics card if you play the new games want driver optimization for it plus the new features (like Freesync nvidia patch..etc) As someone who's not interested in the newer trashy games (last game I have is tomb raider 2018) no need to get the latest update..in many games they cause more FPS stutter and you need to roll back My win 10 is updated..maybe not to latest build..the latest build including BIOS update actually slows performance few percent on intel system to favor security..People needs to stop thinking you need to update to the latest patches in windows and GPUs in order to get better performance, don't fix what isn't broken..This is EA poor management of resource when you play on ultra and on big lots or lots with alot of clutter..they repeating the same mistake of sims 3..too expensive to hire someone that can program this game to take advantage of powerful pcs? Very insightful. I'm not a computer person but I automatically assume the latest and greatest =best. This is good to know. I have a gtx 1070 if I remember correctly. I don't know if brand makes a difference but I have MSI,Windows 10, more cc than I imagine, and 0 studder or lag with sims 4. The only time I got studder on a huge lot was when I filled it with fog makers lol

"mirta000;c-17420108" wrote:It's slowly turning into a The Sims 3 mess? Due to simulation lag the game is unplayable for me ever since City Living. I've spent 3 hours modding The Sims 3 (NRAAS, error trap, overwatch, fixing the pathing on every... single... map) and I got it to run in a good framerate and without simulation lagging out on me... Provided I give my save files warm up time till 3AM sims time when NRAAS swoops through my neighbourhood the first time around.I can't do that on The Sims 4. I wish EA didn't leave The Sims 3 in a state where I have to do this, but at least I CAN do that with The Sims 3.I forgot to mention it's also very noticable in some neighborhoods of city living, I remember only one neighborhood in city living that plays completely smoothly while others stutter especially when you.kive the camera..I gave up on playing on that world, it's like sims 3 all over again where I can only play on sunset valley on every new save just to play on minimal lag..The problem is, sims 3 had open world, so there's slight excuse, sims 4 is closed world, there's zero reason for stutter even minimal if you have a good PC..How some places in sims 4 stutter (like city living) more than others indicates poor coding in that area/world and not the user's PC fault..And if you end up avoiding most worlds or neighborhood that have the most lag and play on small lots to avoid lag..it'll end up being repetitive and boring..like there's no reason I bought city living but avoiding to play on it because most neighborhoods and festivals in it stutter regardless of owning a PC that can handle skyrim and more demanding games at max with zero stutter..

Sims 4 slowly turning into sims 3 mess

13 Replies

Simburian
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
Are you up-to-date on all the Windows 10 updates and graphic card ones? I have problems with logging on to the web Gallery every time after I get them as they reset. I'm tending to blame them now or my laptop by HP not catching up.

Mind you I dropped my laptop against a metal radiator yesterday and it didn't affect it at all so recommend HP for that!
Duhgirl2u2
6 years ago
I'm wondering the same as Simburian and also if maybe your cache files need cleaning out because I'm also running a 1050 on 64 bit windows 10 and I rarely get any stutter or lag. I've an 8th generation Legacy lot that's pretty intense, and I get some slow down but not a frustrating amount.

You might try running the repair tool from Origin as well.
graventh8
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"Simburian;c-17420092" wrote:
Are you up-to-date on all the Windows 10 updates and graphic card ones? I have problems with logging on to the web Gallery every time after I get them as they reset. I'm tending to blame them now or my laptop by HP not catching up.

Mind you I dropped my laptop against a metal radiator yesterday and it didn't affect it at all so recommend HP for that!

I'm an IT guy and you don't need to update your graphics card everytime there's a new patch..benchmarks showed that older drivers (399.24 for nvidia) actually performed better than most recent ones..because most recent nvidia patches add new beta features (that I dont even use) that slows performance and the fixes come several months later that fixes only half of issues at most..you may only need to update your graphics card if you play the new games want driver optimization for it plus the new features (like Freesync nvidia patch..etc)

As someone who's not interested in the newer trashy games (last game I have is tomb raider 2018) no need to get the latest update..in many games they cause more FPS stutter and you need to roll back

My win 10 is updated..maybe not to latest build..the latest build including BIOS update actually slows performance few percent on intel system to favor security..

People needs to stop thinking you need to update to the latest patches in windows and GPUs in order to get better performance, don't fix what isn't broken..

This is EA poor management of resource when you play on ultra and on big lots or lots with alot of clutter..they repeating the same mistake of sims 3..too expensive to hire someone that can program this game to take advantage of powerful pcs?
HaneulFier
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
I’m still fortunate in that my game is lag free even on large lots full of clutter, but the games are not always optimized properly, which causes random lag. What settings have you changed to try to fix it?

I remember when I had Sims 3 on a different computer, no matter what I did, Island Paradise was a laggy mess. As soon as I uninstalled it, the game was completely lag free again. Even if it was the only EP installed, it caused unplayable lag. However, with every other pack installed, a ton of CC and store content there was none. :(

I hope you can fix the stuttering.
Babykittyjade
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"graventhe;c-17420110" wrote:
"Simburian;c-17420092" wrote:
Are you up-to-date on all the Windows 10 updates and graphic card ones? I have problems with logging on to the web Gallery every time after I get them as they reset. I'm tending to blame them now or my laptop by HP not catching up.

Mind you I dropped my laptop against a metal radiator yesterday and it didn't affect it at all so recommend HP for that!

I'm an IT guy and you don't need to update your graphics card everytime there's a new patch..benchmarks showed that older drivers (399.24 for nvidia) actually performed better than most recent ones..because most recent nvidia patches add new beta features (that I dont even use) that slows performance and the fixes come several months later that fixes only half of issues at most..you may only need to update your graphics card if you play the new games want driver optimization for it plus the new features (like Freesync nvidia patch..etc)

As someone who's not interested in the newer trashy games (last game I have is tomb raider 2018) no need to get the latest update..in many games they cause more FPS stutter and you need to roll back

My win 10 is updated..maybe not to latest build..the latest build including BIOS update actually slows performance few percent on intel system to favor security..

People needs to stop thinking you need to update to the latest patches in windows and GPUs in order to get better performance, don't fix what isn't broken..

This is EA poor management of resource when you play on ultra and on big lots or lots with alot of clutter..they repeating the same mistake of sims 3..too expensive to hire someone that can program this game to take advantage of powerful pcs?

Very insightful. I'm not a computer person but I automatically assume the latest and greatest =best. This is good to know. I have a gtx 1070 if I remember correctly. I don't know if brand makes a difference but I have MSI,
Windows 10, more cc than I imagine, and 0 studder or lag with sims 4. The only time I got studder on a huge lot was when I filled it with fog makers lol
graventh8
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
"mirta000;c-17420108" wrote:
It's slowly turning into a The Sims 3 mess? Due to simulation lag the game is unplayable for me ever since City Living.

I've spent 3 hours modding The Sims 3 (NRAAS, error trap, overwatch, fixing the pathing on every... single... map) and I got it to run in a good framerate and without simulation lagging out on me... Provided I give my save files warm up time till 3AM sims time when NRAAS swoops through my neighbourhood the first time around.

I can't do that on The Sims 4. I wish EA didn't leave The Sims 3 in a state where I have to do this, but at least I CAN do that with The Sims 3.

I forgot to mention it's also very noticable in some neighborhoods of city living, I remember only one neighborhood in city living that plays completely smoothly while others stutter especially when you.kive the camera..
I gave up on playing on that world, it's like sims 3 all over again where I can only play on sunset valley on every new save just to play on minimal lag..

The problem is, sims 3 had open world, so there's slight excuse, sims 4 is closed world, there's zero reason for stutter even minimal if you have a good PC..

How some places in sims 4 stutter (like city living) more than others indicates poor coding in that area/world and not the user's PC fault..

And if you end up avoiding most worlds or neighborhood that have the most lag and play on small lots to avoid lag..it'll end up being repetitive and boring..like there's no reason I bought city living but avoiding to play on it because most neighborhoods and festivals in it stutter regardless of owning a PC that can handle skyrim and more demanding games at max with zero stutter..
DeKaythePUNK
Legend
6 years ago
I play on a 1050 gtx on a laptop. I changed my laptop so many times that I can't remember the CPU but this one is from mid last year. So it's pretty recent. ?

I do get lags in huge cluttered worlds. But almost no camera lag in Oasis Springs or Strangeville.
My guess is that Oasis Springs and Strangeville don't have a lot of moving trees. The trees swinging makes it very laggy. If you turn on laptop mode, the trees stop swaying (and also remove some shadows) but there will be no lag.
OEII1001
Seasoned Ace
6 years ago
On the contrary, The Sims 4 runs perfectly for me, whereas I continue to get framerates in the teens with The Sims 3 running a system as follows with up-to-date drivers.

Windows 10 Home
Core i7-9700 @ 3.00 GHZ/3.00 GHZ
32 GB DDR4
Geforce RTX 2060 Super 8 GB GDDR6

There is absolutely no reason that a title from 2009 should run so poorly on that architecture, other than being so poorly coded as to be fatally flawed.
karon_shiruba
6 years ago
I hate playing in Brindleton Bay, for some reason it always stutter there
bsozz
6 years ago
If it makes you feel better I built my wife a PC with an i9 and a 2080 (I also work in IT) and it still has the occasional stutter - particularly when zoomed out all the way.