So what happened to those continued updates?

It took them a year to get the rocket fixed. The aging bug and broken on/off switch for wants feel like more complex bugs. I don't expect any fixes soon. I think the next patch will be one to prepare the game for yet another kit, with only minor bugs fixed.

After being forced to update by origin, I have little confidence in even more updates. Why should the sims team bother making updates that actually improve the game? Is it a 'bad' update, they can just force it into our game anyway.

The only questions that remain for me is how many bug and intrusive features the next patch will add? and will origin respect their customers enough to not automatically update their games if automatic updates is turned off?

@Atreya, I've been asking myself the same question way back when we only had 34, 35 packs/kits. :D

I figured out they will never be able to re-produce the bugs we have because they only have the base game, along with the pack being promoted. Let's see them play with every single pack, kit, whathaveyou and see what they come up with.

This was awhile ago and I forget which pack he was promoting but Grant had problems with his sim and the jump bug. I have to admit, it was funny. :D

"bshag4lv;c-18171617" wrote:
@Atreya, I've been asking myself the same question way back when we only had 34, 35 packs/kits. :D

I figured out they will never be able to re-produce the bugs we have because they only have the base game, along with the pack being promoted. Let's see them play with every single pack, kit, whathaveyou and see what they come up with.

This was awhile ago and I forget which pack he was promoting but Grant had problems with his sim and the jump bug. I have to admit, it was funny. :D

You are kidding, right? They, the people creating this game, don't have the entire universe of DLC on at least a handful of computers in the studio? In a weird sort of way I am actually impressed that it runs at all if that's the case.

What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed?

This is one of the questions asked when reporting a bug. So I would imagine they have the ability to test all packs when troubleshooting.

I don't know anything about bug testing but it's mind boggling to even think about how they approach testing bugs. 12 expansion packs. 12 game packs. 18 stuff packs, and 13 kits. Not everyone has all packs installed. Thousands of computer configurations. Player A might have 2 saves. Player B has 32 saves. Player C has 600 Sims in a save. Player D has 200. Where to even start? ?

"simgirl1010;c-18171655" wrote:
Not everyone has all packs installed. Thousands of computer configurations.

Those two things alone would be a total nightmare to recreate. PCs, Macs, laptops, it really is mind boggling the number of variables that are in play.

Simply turning off the auto updates option will not stop Origin from attempting to update your game unless you also go offline and stay offline until you are ready to update. I have everything in the Origin options turned off. I do not allow sharing files, either. The need to take such extreme measures to keep your game safe is intrusive and a royal pain. The ONLY part of Origin I miss is the 'Repair Game' option. In my opinion it is Origin's one, and only redeeming quality.

As for the double speak coming from the gurus about updates, when those will be available and what bug fixes we can look for in those updates? I have taken a 'show me first' stance and refuse to believe anything the gurus say. Their credibility has taken too many hits lately as far as following through with what they say we can expect. All I see is a group of folks who obviously don't have anything worthwhile to say and are trying to keep the masses from losing their minds because they cannot play their games due to all the bugs. And who can blame the players for feeling this way when actual cash has changed hands and the product they thought they had paid for does not function as it was advertised. If one had purchased this product from any other company the customer service department of that company would have imploded from all the angry phone calls coming in from dissatisfied customers, and their storerooms would be overflowing with returns.

EA/Maxis is definitely taking advantage of our modding community. EA/Maxis knows we rely on the mod creators to fix the game so less effort is being made by the development teams to make sure new packs and updates function properly. Less effort and monetary resources are being given to the development of new packs and updates with the idea there will be mods to fix any mistakes EA/Maxis made and therefor don't have to pay for. Good for EA/Maxis and bad for anyone purchasing new packs as soon as those are released or blindly updating their game before knowing what new issues that update brings with it. As someone who has played The Sims since the beginning, I have to say the quality of the Sims4 barely deserves a 2 out of 10 rating. If not for the many, many mods I use the game would be unplayable. But as far as being excited about EA/Maxis' ability to fix their own game or create a pack that isn't a bug-filled mess? I have zero confidence in that becoming a reality. It will not happen until preorders and release day sales decline enough to make EA/Maxis rethink the way it does business and adjusts its priorities so it can create something that doesn't need to rely on mods to function.

I'm still having issues. I have deleted all mods and CC. For some reasons, my sim cannot introduce themselves to anyone, order food at a vendor or food counter, I have to go to manage world to get my game to save and even then it's a 50/50 chance it saves, and I don't get the option to follow my sim to high school. I have "repaired" the game through Origin countless times. I have tried everything I know to do, everything that has been suggested to plus what I've anything found on Google that I hadn't tried. I don't know what else to do. I have never been so disappointed with this game as I have been for the last few weeks. This is beyond ridiculous. Any and ALL suggestions are welcome along with EA releasing a patch to fix these things. After searching, I know I am not the only one having these issues.

"StrivingNeutral2;c-18171743" wrote:
I'm still having issues. I have deleted all mods and CC. For some reasons, my sim cannot introduce themselves to anyone, order food at a vendor or food counter, I have to go to manage world to get my game to save and even then it's a 50/50 chance it saves, and I don't get the option to follow my sim to high school. I have "repaired" the game through Origin countless times. I have tried everything I know to do, everything that has been suggested to plus what I've anything found on Google that I hadn't tried. I don't know what else to do. I have never been so disappointed with this game as I have been for the last few weeks. This is beyond ridiculous. Any and ALL suggestions are welcome along with EA releasing a patch to fix these things. After searching, I know I am not the only one having these issues.

@StrivingNeutral2, you may want to go over to the AHQ site and either do a search of your issues over there or create a new thread letting EA know what your issues are so that they can look into them as that is where they want any and all bugs and glitches to be reported on at... :)
https://answers.ea.com/t5/The-Sims-4/ct-p/the-sims-4-en

"StrivingNeutral2;c-18171743" wrote:
I'm still having issues. I have deleted all mods and CC. For some reasons, my sim cannot introduce themselves to anyone, order food at a vendor or food counter, I have to go to manage world to get my game to save and even then it's a 50/50 chance it saves, and I don't get the option to follow my sim to high school. I have "repaired" the game through Origin countless times. I have tried everything I know to do, everything that has been suggested to plus what I've anything found on Google that I hadn't tried. I don't know what else to do. I have never been so disappointed with this game as I have been for the last few weeks. This is beyond ridiculous. Any and ALL suggestions are welcome along with EA releasing a patch to fix these things. After searching, I know I am not the only one having these issues.

@StrivingNeutral2 Have you tried recreating the Sims 4 documents folder? (this is something that Origin does not do with the repair) You can do this by renaming the Sims4 folder into something else "Like "The Sims 4 old" or something. Origin will create a new The Sims 4 folder and try then and see if you have the same issue if you click "new game". Then you can try and move your saves and tray items over to that folder if the issue is still there. If the issue is there, then it's something on your save and I would search on Answer HQ to see if there are any suggestions for what it could be.

"StrivingNeutral2;c-18171743" wrote:
I'm still having issues. I have deleted all mods and CC. For some reasons, my sim cannot introduce themselves to anyone, order food at a vendor or food counter, I have to go to manage world to get my game to save and even then it's a 50/50 chance it saves, and I don't get the option to follow my sim to high school. I have "repaired" the game through Origin countless times. I have tried everything I know to do, everything that has been suggested to plus what I've anything found on Google that I hadn't tried. I don't know what else to do. I have never been so disappointed with this game as I have been for the last few weeks. This is beyond ridiculous. Any and ALL suggestions are welcome along with EA releasing a patch to fix these things. After searching, I know I am not the only one having these issues.

Just out of curiosity, do you happen to be using a sim that was created and played in a different save at some point in time? The reason I ask is that I have a sim that I normally use but kept having issues so I recreated from a version that never was used before except in CAS and I had significantly less issues. There were still bugs because the game is very messed up right now but I did notice the difference. Or it could have been just coincidence - either way, maybe worth a shot if you haven't tried that yet.