Terrible programming... C’MON MAXIS!

Dancing is pretty much broken. If you allow them to react, things might get back to normal later on, but if you planned to stay just a few hours and not a full day, it's not working well.

Restaurants is also troubled with this. Works some times, might depend on the staff's personality and mood?

It's normal that regular guests will react to celebrities, but DJs. Hosts and Waiters etc should be acting more professional, one should even expect them to have seen famous people before...

We might need a way to keep celebrities away - is there such a lot trait already?

That was why I went in and used a cheat to remove the celebrity part of all the sims, and stopped my game from allowing it. I think I may have a few missed households, but if they show up, I'll make note of them and remove their celebrity status. I would love for the DJ, and other NPC workers to ignore celebrity status.

This is one thing I really hate about celebrities and fame. My Sims can’t go out and do anything anymore if it requires another’s assistance, because that Sim will drop everything they’re doing to obsess.

More so an oversight than it being broken. Bout like me getting an infected sim as a DJ and soon as it hit 1am bye bye brain.

If you use mods there are some that address the DJ not being affected or any other NPC by celebrities. Which I hope is addressed in the next patch or so.

A fairly easy solution for it would be a lot trait that keeps celebrities away.

Another big complaint i have is the number of times i take my sims on dates and at the end of the date they cannot go home as it says a Vampire is breaking in , Breaking in to where , there are still 2 other members of my family at home , I have had this last for anything up to 9 sim hours after a date and by that time my sims are asleep on the floor with no energy at all left or have even missed their work shift

Yeah, the celebrities are pretty annoying. I'd very much like a lot trait that keeps them away. I don't want everyone dropping everything they're doing all the time just to gawk at celebrity sims.

I'm fairly certain the Vampire and Celebrity bugs are due to Vampires being done by more competent outside help on loan to TS4 group, and TS4 people just copypasting Vampires into a new code page without actually understanding how it worked. From some tweets I saw years ago, I kind of suspect TS4 never had actual programmers assigned, just loaned out to build development tools for "content developers" to play with.

With celebrities, it's arguable the NPC's are performing as they would in real life, also plausible with vampires actually. The bugs mentioned though, are absolutely not the result of bad programming, they're the result of terrible management with zero operational oversight, and an obvious complete lack of a detailed integrated plan for packs. The code for the reaction bugs is performing correctly, it's the data being fed to the code that's the problem, specifically, massively oversimplified context logic that was obviously made to do a specific task, but without any thought to what else was going on in the game.

Stuff like that is absolutely everywhere with this game, the most blatant example is the food calorie system from the base game being ignored in most of the pack content. It's like three numbers a grunt had to fill in, but nobody in charge understood how the system worked, or cared enough about quality to bother.

There's a lot of creativity going on with TS4, but it's all done in crayon on the walls. The failure is in management, it can only be solved by the person at the top actually holding her people accountable for what they produce, demanding they do the same, and spot checking bottom level workers to verify the system is actually working correctly. Nobody likes a hard, demanding, nosy, strict gem of a boss won't let anything slide; but that's the only thing that brings a competent professional result to something like this. What we have is 21st century nobility playing office politics, and spending all day tweeting how awesome they are, EA is a publicly traded company after all.

It would be nice if they added reward traits to make your sim immune to vampires, strangerville infection, celebrities, etc and have the game automatically equip that trait on all professional/service NPCs. That way other gameplay won’t be ruined by them.

"Kellven;c-17025315" wrote:
I'm fairly certain the Vampire and Celebrity bugs are due to Vampires being done by more competent outside help on loan to TS4 group, and TS4 people just copypasting Vampires into a new code page without actually understanding how it worked. From some tweets I saw years ago, I kind of suspect TS4 never had actual programmers assigned, just loaned out to build development tools for "content developers" to play with.

With celebrities, it's arguable the NPC's are performing as they would in real life, also plausible with vampires actually. The bugs mentioned though, are absolutely not the result of bad programming, they're the result of terrible management with zero operational oversight, and an obvious complete lack of a detailed integrated plan for packs. The code for the reaction bugs is performing correctly, it's the data being fed to the code that's the problem, specifically, massively oversimplified context logic that was obviously made to do a specific task, but without any thought to what else was going on in the game.

Stuff like that is absolutely everywhere with this game, the most blatant example is the food calorie system from the base game being ignored in most of the pack content. It's like three numbers a grunt had to fill in, but nobody in charge understood how the system worked, or cared enough about quality to bother.

There's a lot of creativity going on with TS4, but it's all done in crayon on the walls. The failure is in management, it can only be solved by the person at the top actually holding her people accountable for what they produce, demanding they do the same, and spot checking bottom level workers to verify the system is actually working correctly. Nobody likes a hard, demanding, nosy, strict gem of a boss won't let anything slide; but that's the only thing that brings a competent professional result to something like this. What we have is 21st century nobility playing office politics, and spending all day tweeting how awesome they are, EA is a publicly traded company after all.

Where the heck did you get that information?The Designers and programmers who worked at Vampires was at The Sims 4 Team. The only content in which an external team is being developed is the hairs and the OST.

Back to the topic, I do feel sorry for those who experience this bug. I haven't experienced it that much, only when there is a specific quirk that a celeb had. There is a quirk in which it can be developed by posing for pictures. If a sim had that, then that bug might have happen. So far there is only one NPC with that quirk.
Currently in my household I play a group of Teen Dancers in my 3rd Generation(GT club). Mostly there are Celebs who come and damce at the Night clubs, however the only sims that pretty much dont dance are the paparazi. The DJ, and the Bartender is still doing their job. Some fans when a celeb arrove will ask for autograph,etc., but after that, those fans will join the dance floor.

Everything is pretty much always normal in my game, unless Throne Bailey(Spelling might be wrong) is at the nightclub, since he had that quirk I am talking about.