5 years ago
The flop that is called The Sims 4
I've not played the sims 4 for almost 2 years now after I basically just got bored of it. I tried many times to give it one more shot but I just really didn't feel like it anymore since I found it uninteresting. Due to quarantine I have revisited it and I made some houses and played for about 2 days.
I will start this thread with some positivity by saying that I do really like build mode. It's honestly the best feature of the game and I have become quit good at it after lots of practicing whereas in the sims 3 I never even knew how to begin building. (bare in mind that I was a lot younger) Besides building cas and its graphics are also really interesting and I find it just generally fun to play around with it and create backstories while making random sims. This I missed in the sims 3 cause it just simply took me ages to make a sim and it felt more like a task than an 'entertainment'.
The sims 4 its gameplay however is a whole other story. I know this has been said many times especially since the fiasco that is called eco living was announced, but the sims 4 just lacks every single piece of depth. There's nothing interesting to do and the relationships sims have don't affect their lives that much. My sims feel more like puppets that I have to completely control than interesting characters like in the sims 3. I have to completely rely on my imagination to make my sims's lives interesting which usually ends with my sims cheating on their spouses and beginning new relationships every single time I open the game. I find this really sad cause the sims 3 had such a special place in my heart and it was really a place where I could escape for me and do all the crazy things I couldn't do in real life. I really felt connected to my sims and usually played at least 2 generations. In the sims 4 however I can honestly say that although I have played with the new generation of my sims, I've never played long enough for my first generation to pass away.
The emotion system adds nothing to the gameplay and depth besides some random cartoony interactions that I just simply do not care about.
The townies are also really really really f'ing disappointing. I loved the sims 3 townies so much and I knew almost all of their names and their backstories and spends hours on just reading them on the sims wiki site. They had so much depth and were just so iconic. Whereas the townies in the sims 4 don't have any depth. They have a written backstory that usually doesn't even reflect on their relationships and they are so poorly done. I just simply cannot understand how they can release towns with sims that have no special relationships and are no different than they were in cas. (before playing them: no skills, relationships,...)
The graphics of the worlds are beautiful but many of them are way too small for them to be fun to play in like Magnolia Promenade and DSV. I get that because all of the worlds are in every save file that the game has to keep being runnable but then again I don't find it fair for players that really wanted for ex (like me) a Hollywood themed world and that have to pay 40 (may I repeat 40!!!) bucks on a world with about 5 residential lots. If Windenburg costs the same price as the other ones, the other ones should be of the same quality. In the sims 3 I didn't like that when you moved worlds you lost all of your contacts and that you couldn't visit your old neighbourhood but then again I much preferred this system cause it gave us way more freedom. Not only did we have an open worlds (which was great) but we also got new townies with every expansion pack that we got which made the game way more interesting for me aswel. It honestly feels like you need to edit the worlds in the sims 4 completely before you can play in them since there aren't many townies and cause the townies that are there are the same boring ones that we have in every save file. If I would have to choose however I still prefer the sims 3 system with the one world. (but an interesting QUALITY one)
Regarding to these complaints I've also seen some people defend the simgurus and producers and that they're very nice people and that the sims community is really toxic for them since we only get mad and always complain without being constructive. To that I want to respond that this isn't a hate message to the producers cause I can't point my fingers at whose fault this is and I don't really care. I just care about this game being worth the money and for it to be giving us the same (if not better cause cmon it's supposed to be a newer updated version) quality as the previous games cause how it is right now isn't working. I also don't care about the simgurus being nice or whatever, I mean I wish them all the best but their personalities and they like-ability isn't why they were hired, they are hired to make the sims 4 a good game and that's the only thing we should care about. And I also really hate how they are taking the negative backlash. They are handling it as if they are stubborn 10 year olds. They're completely ignoring and not responding to most of the complaints and if they are responding to it, it's in a making-fun kinda way. They make it look like the angry sims players are some evil monsters that are out to get them and they're taking it way to personally. This isn't about you. This is about the game and with all of the dislikes on the newest trailer you could OBJECTIVELY tell that it isn't the way it should be.
I would also like to include that the sims 4 expansion packs are way to expensive for what is in them. Back in the day the sims 3 ones were about 30 bucks I think while they hade SOOOO many content in them. Get this for example: Late night had a giant open city-like world that included apartments and a hills section for the rich. There was a celebrity system (that was way better that the one from the sims 4, don't @ me), a new film career with 2 options, the directing one and the movie star one. (so basically 2 careers) Next to this they also brought in vampires (which was a bit random but okay), night life (clubs,... altho they were empty most of the times) and last but not least sooo many townies that were just so iconic and had so many depth and a real story. Take Lola Belle for instance: she's SUCH an icon and has such a fun backstory. And even Matthew Hamming had a fun backstory which made people even question his sexuality. Can you imagine this in the sims 4? Imagine even questioning the sexuality of a sims 4 character. No. You can't. They're literally puppets.
In the sims 4 we had city living that brought in the apartments (that aren't even better than in late night cause we can't edit the building or add in new apartments) and some irrelevant careers that nobody cared about. We also had get famous that added a whack celebrity system and an acting career (not even directing) that I have never played cause it simply does not work cause I can't go to the gigs. +We had Vampires that added.. well.. vampires. And honestly even though I don't really care about them I don't hate this pack cause it was nicely done and only a gamepack. (night life was added in get together so here's another feature that was divided in another pack)
I needed to get this of my chest. To finish this long thread I would like to say that even though this might sound really bitter, I am not. I simply lost hope gameplay-wise and I'm not even angry about it anymore, just disappointed and I've lost hope. See ya
I will start this thread with some positivity by saying that I do really like build mode. It's honestly the best feature of the game and I have become quit good at it after lots of practicing whereas in the sims 3 I never even knew how to begin building. (bare in mind that I was a lot younger) Besides building cas and its graphics are also really interesting and I find it just generally fun to play around with it and create backstories while making random sims. This I missed in the sims 3 cause it just simply took me ages to make a sim and it felt more like a task than an 'entertainment'.
The sims 4 its gameplay however is a whole other story. I know this has been said many times especially since the fiasco that is called eco living was announced, but the sims 4 just lacks every single piece of depth. There's nothing interesting to do and the relationships sims have don't affect their lives that much. My sims feel more like puppets that I have to completely control than interesting characters like in the sims 3. I have to completely rely on my imagination to make my sims's lives interesting which usually ends with my sims cheating on their spouses and beginning new relationships every single time I open the game. I find this really sad cause the sims 3 had such a special place in my heart and it was really a place where I could escape for me and do all the crazy things I couldn't do in real life. I really felt connected to my sims and usually played at least 2 generations. In the sims 4 however I can honestly say that although I have played with the new generation of my sims, I've never played long enough for my first generation to pass away.
The emotion system adds nothing to the gameplay and depth besides some random cartoony interactions that I just simply do not care about.
The townies are also really really really f'ing disappointing. I loved the sims 3 townies so much and I knew almost all of their names and their backstories and spends hours on just reading them on the sims wiki site. They had so much depth and were just so iconic. Whereas the townies in the sims 4 don't have any depth. They have a written backstory that usually doesn't even reflect on their relationships and they are so poorly done. I just simply cannot understand how they can release towns with sims that have no special relationships and are no different than they were in cas. (before playing them: no skills, relationships,...)
The graphics of the worlds are beautiful but many of them are way too small for them to be fun to play in like Magnolia Promenade and DSV. I get that because all of the worlds are in every save file that the game has to keep being runnable but then again I don't find it fair for players that really wanted for ex (like me) a Hollywood themed world and that have to pay 40 (may I repeat 40!!!) bucks on a world with about 5 residential lots. If Windenburg costs the same price as the other ones, the other ones should be of the same quality. In the sims 3 I didn't like that when you moved worlds you lost all of your contacts and that you couldn't visit your old neighbourhood but then again I much preferred this system cause it gave us way more freedom. Not only did we have an open worlds (which was great) but we also got new townies with every expansion pack that we got which made the game way more interesting for me aswel. It honestly feels like you need to edit the worlds in the sims 4 completely before you can play in them since there aren't many townies and cause the townies that are there are the same boring ones that we have in every save file. If I would have to choose however I still prefer the sims 3 system with the one world. (but an interesting QUALITY one)
Regarding to these complaints I've also seen some people defend the simgurus and producers and that they're very nice people and that the sims community is really toxic for them since we only get mad and always complain without being constructive. To that I want to respond that this isn't a hate message to the producers cause I can't point my fingers at whose fault this is and I don't really care. I just care about this game being worth the money and for it to be giving us the same (if not better cause cmon it's supposed to be a newer updated version) quality as the previous games cause how it is right now isn't working. I also don't care about the simgurus being nice or whatever, I mean I wish them all the best but their personalities and they like-ability isn't why they were hired, they are hired to make the sims 4 a good game and that's the only thing we should care about. And I also really hate how they are taking the negative backlash. They are handling it as if they are stubborn 10 year olds. They're completely ignoring and not responding to most of the complaints and if they are responding to it, it's in a making-fun kinda way. They make it look like the angry sims players are some evil monsters that are out to get them and they're taking it way to personally. This isn't about you. This is about the game and with all of the dislikes on the newest trailer you could OBJECTIVELY tell that it isn't the way it should be.
I would also like to include that the sims 4 expansion packs are way to expensive for what is in them. Back in the day the sims 3 ones were about 30 bucks I think while they hade SOOOO many content in them. Get this for example: Late night had a giant open city-like world that included apartments and a hills section for the rich. There was a celebrity system (that was way better that the one from the sims 4, don't @ me), a new film career with 2 options, the directing one and the movie star one. (so basically 2 careers) Next to this they also brought in vampires (which was a bit random but okay), night life (clubs,... altho they were empty most of the times) and last but not least sooo many townies that were just so iconic and had so many depth and a real story. Take Lola Belle for instance: she's SUCH an icon and has such a fun backstory. And even Matthew Hamming had a fun backstory which made people even question his sexuality. Can you imagine this in the sims 4? Imagine even questioning the sexuality of a sims 4 character. No. You can't. They're literally puppets.
In the sims 4 we had city living that brought in the apartments (that aren't even better than in late night cause we can't edit the building or add in new apartments) and some irrelevant careers that nobody cared about. We also had get famous that added a whack celebrity system and an acting career (not even directing) that I have never played cause it simply does not work cause I can't go to the gigs. +We had Vampires that added.. well.. vampires. And honestly even though I don't really care about them I don't hate this pack cause it was nicely done and only a gamepack. (night life was added in get together so here's another feature that was divided in another pack)
I needed to get this of my chest. To finish this long thread I would like to say that even though this might sound really bitter, I am not. I simply lost hope gameplay-wise and I'm not even angry about it anymore, just disappointed and I've lost hope. See ya