The reason I'll be harder on Sims than Paralives.

I think the reason why people are hyping so much on Paralives is because they have so much input on what will come in to the game.
Because the Sims 4 is so lacking and our wishes are often not heard, it feels for them nice to be heard by someone else.

I am not sure on buying Paralives myself, I will fully on decide after watching other players reviews.
The game looks good and there are many promises made in term of gameplay and because it's such a small team I am afraid a lot of players will get disappointed. There's nothing wrong with being disappointed, but I am afraid the Paralives team will get a lot of hate from players who do not understand the difference between a small team and a large company. And I don't wish them a hatefull community like the sims one sometimes is. Many many simmers need to learn that you can express your opinion, but only with valid arguments. Not just ugly hate.

"Simmivie;c-17569814" wrote:
I think the reason why people are hyping so much on Paralives is because they have so much input on what will come in to the game.
Because the Sims 4 is so lacking and our wishes are often not heard, it feels for them nice to be heard by someone else.

I am not sure on buying Paralives myself, I will fully on decide after watching other players reviews.
The game looks good and there are many promises made in term of gameplay and because it's such a small team I am afraid a lot of players will get disappointed. There's nothing wrong with being disappointed, but I am afraid the Paralives team will get a lot of hate from players who do not understand the difference between a small team and a large company. And I don't wish them a hatefull community like the sims one sometimes is. Many many simmers need to learn that you can express your opinion, but only with valid arguments. Not just ugly hate.

I agree! This is why I can't tolerate The Sims 4. For a company like EA, coming with a game like this after The Sims 2 and The Sims 3 it is just frustrating and I struggle to understand why a lot of people seem ok with it.

My expectations are low but I'm excited for Paralives and I'll never be hard on it! With The Sims is totally the opposite!

I don't understand why The Sims 4 it is the way it is and sometimes as long time fan since 2002 I feel triggered by what this franchise that I love has become! I'm not saying Maxis is the problem but we all know how EA is since 2009/2010 and quite frankly, the sims community is also way to benevolant towards the situation. I'm not saying to be mean and disrespectfull. I'm just saying that if we complain (with reasons) and we know how EA is nowadays, we MUST STOP BUYING AND PLAYING The Sims 4 no matter what. Let it flop! That's the right thing to do!
This 6 years is enough already to prove that this game will never be what the other three were and it's not really worthy to continue on creating expectations of someting that I genuinly think that will never be fixed. Specially when we have a game that costs +700 US dollars or equivalent!
The Sims 4 failed to impress and I think in general even people who are "fine" with this game can understand that, unless you're a newbie to The Sims!

"Renato10;c-17569934" wrote:

"Simmivie;c-17569814" wrote:
I think the reason why people are hyping so much on Paralives is because they have so much input on what will come in to the game.
Because the Sims 4 is so lacking and our wishes are often not heard, it feels for them nice to be heard by someone else.

I am not sure on buying Paralives myself, I will fully on decide after watching other players reviews.
The game looks good and there are many promises made in term of gameplay and because it's such a small team I am afraid a lot of players will get disappointed. There's nothing wrong with being disappointed, but I am afraid the Paralives team will get a lot of hate from players who do not understand the difference between a small team and a large company. And I don't wish them a hatefull community like the sims one sometimes is. Many many simmers need to learn that you can express your opinion, but only with valid arguments. Not just ugly hate.

I agree! This is why I can't tolerate The Sims 4. For a company like EA, coming with a game like this after The Sims 2 and The Sims 3 it is just frustrating and I struggle to understand why a lot of people seem ok with it.

My expectations are low but I'm excited for Paralives and I'll never be hard on it! With The Sims is totally the opposite!

I don't understand why The Sims 4 it is the way it is and sometimes as long time fan since 2002 I feel triggered by what this franchise that I love has become! I'm not saying Maxis is the problem but we all know how EA is since 2009/2010 and quite frankly, the sims community is also way to benevolant towards the situation. I'm not saying to be mean and disrespectfull. I'm just saying that if we complain (with reasons) and we know how EA is nowadays, we MUST STOP BUYING AND PLAYING The Sims 4 no matter what. Let it flop! That's the right thing to do!
This 6 years is enough already to prove that this game will never be what the other three were and it's not really worthy to continue on creating expectations of someting that I genuinly think that will never be fixed. Specially when we have a game that costs +700 US dollars or equivalent!
The Sims 4 failed to impress and I think in general even people who are "fine" with this game can understand that, unless you're a newbie to The Sims!

I think you are totally right about the fact that EA woud not change anything untill we stop buying.
We are not satisfied with the game, but we still buy it. And I think the reason for that is the modding community. And I think that, because I am one of these people.

I have played all the generations and I do see all the problems with the Sims 4. But why do I keep buying it and playing?
Because I use a lot of mods to improve my gameplay. There are a lot of mods that are my wishes for in the Sims 4. And there are a lot of them. So for me, my game is enjoyable. And because my game is enjoyable I keep playing it and keep expanding it. I could contribute to making a point and stop buying the new packs, but the problem is that the Sims is my outlet. My mental health has never been great and the Sims is where I can be myself and where I really can calm down. So I don't want to stop playing it and not being involved in the community.


I do know Sims 4 should be more, but on the other hand I can not let it go.
It may sound egoistic, but I have played the game for 15 years and it always made me happy again. It's hard to let that go.

I hope I told everything in a respectfull way. I will never try to argue with an other simmer, but I think it's important to have a conversation about different opinions.

No I won’t be harder on Sims or Paralives.

I will judge by content vs price. I don’t know what else could be fair.
If I think game 1 offers the kind of gameplay I’m personally looking for, but game 2 doesn’t, I will invest in game 1 if the price seems reasonable to me.
I don’t care if the game is made by 5 people or 500 people. Personal preference for content comes first. If I like what I see, I’m willing to open my wallet.

"@ClarionOfJoy;c-17571620" wrote:
But TS4 really IS a rubbish game that doesn't deserve people's hard-earned money. That's fact.

That is not a fact. You are speaking from personal preference. You are not the entire community. Folks can and will spend their hard-earned money on whatever they like.

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17571667" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17571661" wrote:
No I won’t be harder on Sims or Paralives.

I will judge by content vs price. I don’t know what else could be fair.
If I think game 1 offers the kind of gameplay I’m personally looking for, but game 2 doesn’t, I will invest in game 1 if the price seems reasonable to me.
I don’t care if the game is made by 5 people or 500 people. Personal preference for content comes first. If I like what I see, I’m willing to open my wallet.

"@ClarionOfJoy;c-17571620" wrote:
But TS4 really IS a rubbish game that doesn't deserve people's hard-earned money. That's fact.

That is not a fact. You are speaking from personal preference. You are not the entire community. Folks can and will spend their hard-earned money on whatever they like.

In comparison to the previous The Sims games it is. When you compare them to each other, TS4 really is rubbish and far less value for what you would have to pay. I'm glad I didn't get taken in by the hype and the ridiculous reasons to keep buying it.

I don't want EA to lose business, but I'd rather enrich EA by directing people to the games they published worth buying and playing.

You could state your thoughts without offending anyone.

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17571687" wrote:

"telmarina;c-17571679" wrote:

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17571667" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17571661" wrote:
No I won’t be harder on Sims or Paralives.

I will judge by content vs price. I don’t know what else could be fair.
If I think game 1 offers the kind of gameplay I’m personally looking for, but game 2 doesn’t, I will invest in game 1 if the price seems reasonable to me.
I don’t care if the game is made by 5 people or 500 people. Personal preference for content comes first. If I like what I see, I’m willing to open my wallet.

"@ClarionOfJoy;c-17571620" wrote:
But TS4 really IS a rubbish game that doesn't deserve people's hard-earned money. That's fact.

That is not a fact. You are speaking from personal preference. You are not the entire community. Folks can and will spend their hard-earned money on whatever they like.

In comparison to the previous The Sims games it is. When you compare them to each other, TS4 really is rubbish and far less value for what you would have to pay. I'm glad I didn't get taken in by the hype and the ridiculous reasons to keep buying it.

I don't want EA to lose business, but I'd rather enrich EA by directing people to the games they published worth buying and playing.

You could state your thoughts without offending anyone.

Why? So that everyone will like me? And I don't think what I wrote was offensive.

No, just out of respect.

Listen I'm okay with criticism of four. Which game is better. But I want things to be more respectful. So please don't have an argument here

In conclusion I just think The Sims 4 is purely overrated (first time I feel this for a Sims product) for an EA game that isn't even the first version of the franchise. But if its doing well, it will keep the way it is and nothing will actually change! And also will probably take the future of this franchise in a path I'm not really interested in. My expectation with The Sims 5 are a round big zero! I'm excited for Paralives and I'll never be hard on them. Frankly, everything that was confirmed and revealed to the public is already way better than anything that came out from The Sims franchise in the past 6 years.
EA does this game for ages, so its hard to tolerate something like The Sims 4!

"PlanetSixam;c-17571744" wrote:

"ClarionOfJoy;c-17571620" wrote:
TS4 really IS a rubbish game that doesn't deserve people's hard-earned money. That's fact.

I understand that you're not fond of TS4 like you were with previous iterations and that's your prerogative, but please don't speak for others. TS4 is my favourite iteration from the franchise, and I have played TS1, TS2 and TS3. I don't think it's perfect by any means, but I've also had the most fun and enjoyment from TS4 than I have with any of the previous games.

Like or dislike whatever you want, but it's best to avoid speaking for the whole community.

This is how I feel too! It's also my Fav after playing all of them :) And I didn't buy into it because of hype.. In fact I bough it several years after release (around the time toddlers came out as they advertised it when I purchased it so I bought the pack with the game) because I had taken a several years long break after getting bored with older versions haha. I didn't see any hype at all as I wasn't on the forums yet or following any game blogs. I just thought one day that I was bored and would try sims again. The old version was running on my new computer so I looked for updates or patches and discovered there was an entire new game out (hadn't heard of Sims 4 before that haha). Not only that it was on sale. So I bought it and fell in love with it in a way I never did with earlier versions. Have tried going back to earlier ones quite a few times since and just can't get into them anymore. I've since joined the forums and etc but at the time I just played quietly on my own not even knowing they or mods existed haha.

"@Renato10;c-17571852" wrote:
I'm excited for Paralives and I'll never be hard on them. Frankly, everything that was confirmed and revealed to the public is already way better than anything that came out from The Sims franchise in the past 6 years..

I understand Paralives looks promising, but did you get to test play it yet?
The reason I'm asking is that with such high level of expectation there is no room for disappointment.
I do hope it's the game for you if and when it will be released.