The Sims 4 Discover University - Gameplay trailer

"@mika;c-17301273" wrote:

"ListentoToppDogg;c-17300362" wrote:
I think that was easily the cringiest Sims trailer I've ever seen :# We get it, this game is for the hip and cool teen girls of the world, but geeeeezzzzz, the 'hashtags' and other weird slang and the way the voice actress spoke were so off putting.

Hilarious how this is the 2nd trailer, the GAMEPLAY trailer, and yet still nothing showing anything to do with classes. Is this a university pack or a "my life is so #crazy and so #weird, but so #fun, and and I love to #party, oh and I also just so happen to be in #school" pack? Seriously, they glossed over anything that actually related to school just to tell a story about this obnoxious girl. Where are the actual details about what's offered in the pack? Where is the schooling? What about the degrees? Jobs? The campuses? Literally all of that was ignored. This was supposed to be the trailer to tell us about what's new and interesting about this pack, but instead they just rushed through everything and used it as mere background for the unnecessary story.

Doesn't make the pack look appealing in the slightest In fact, it just makes the pack come across as void of content.

I dont know why y'all think they should appeal to you instead of the newer, younger generation. It makes complete sense for TS4 to mostly target teens and young adults as they have the most spending and staying power and are what brings attention to the game. Nobody cares what kind of music or things the 30+ folks are into for a reason. It's basic marketing. As cringy as it seems, this is what the target demo responds to, especially on social media platforms as I see many young women all over twitter and instagram referring to it as the "best trailer" yet.

Hate to say it, but the majority is all they're concerned about and the majority of Sims 4 players are young people / women. And the devs only come on the forums for ideas of what unique objects/mechanisms to add to the game, not really for our overall opinions and critiques. They're more active on twitter.

Nobody expects ‘instead’. Would be nice if it would cater us all though. And that’s possible, this was the case with the predecessors and it’s the case with most other games I know or heard of.

And as for the second remark: oh? I do know some think like that, yeah. I went to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and read a review later. Someone complaining about the fact Tarantino had presumed everybody knew all those old stars nóbody knows or cares about, and this whole Sharon Tate business. Yeah, well, turns out there’s quite some people still walking around on planet earth who do know Steve McQueen and Mama Cas and Roman Polanski and who do care. What’s more: my own kids (19 and 22) love playing music from the 80s, when their mom was their age. Not to please me I can assure you (my son says things about The Beatles that HURT, pleasing me is the last thing on their bucket list :D ). They just genuinely love listening to Depeche Mode and The Cure and Madonna. The way I love The Beatles by the way, who were a thing when I was a toddler.

@LeGardePourpre I can totally see that! I love the little nod.

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

If I sound ignorant, forgive me, but.... isn't moving off screen virtually the same as a rabbit hole? *shrugs*

I'm all for more active everything, however, I'm ok with rabbit hole classes. More careers should be open, that's some variety but if the class is about science or history or arts etc, it's all going to be watching one sim stand there and talk while everyone else sits. Maybe a hand raised once in awhile, sims taking notes. Yeah, I don't see that as fun or game play if I'm honest.

@Camkat lol, yeah I remember when I was still playing sims 3 and all the 4 players were saying how there were no dreaded rabbitholes in the game. Of course there are rabbitholes. They are just invisible off-screen rabbitholes.

I've never had any objection to them though. I'd much rather concentrate on another sim instead of sitting watching someone sat at a desk in class for hours.

"Camkat;c-17311089" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

If I sound ignorant, forgive me, but.... isn't moving off screen virtually the same as a rabbit hole? *shrugs*

I'm all for more active everything, however, I'm ok with rabbit hole classes. More careers should be open, that's some variety but if the class is about science or history or arts etc, it's all going to be watching one sim stand there and talk while everyone else sits. Maybe a hand raised once in awhile, sims taking notes. Yeah, I don't see that as fun or game play if I'm honest.

No you don't and yeah that's why so much irony with it. I think I would be more entertained by younger Sims going to school than the older ones. Go to School mod is so great and honestly think an active school system makes more sense for grade, high school, and preschool than it would for university. University classes are really dull in comparison, so I'm glad more game play focus was done outside of class because that is when more interesting things happen.

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

Actually the big pro used by Sims 4 fans back then was that Sims 4 had so much potential because it wouldn’t have to work with rabbitholes, everything would be open! I see different double standards than you do apparently ;)

@LeGardePourpre The Sims 3 campus is almost a spitting image of that too.

"JoAnne65;c-17312385" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

Actually the big pro used by Sims 4 fans back then was that Sims 4 had so much potential because it wouldn’t have to work with rabbitholes, everything would be open! I see different double standards than you do apparently ;)

@LeGardePourpre The Sims 3 campus is almost a spitting image of that too.

If I may interject: I think people were just happy that many things (like restaurants) were not rabbit holes because it's of course more fun to dine out with your sims than see them disappear. But I also recall many people saying they'd like some of the rabbit holes back - I think in part because it's just not realistic to expect them to make everything open, if only because of the massive performance issues this would cause. Plus, some rabbit holes like grocery stores, cinemas, certain types of office buildings, do make the world seem more lively but might be arduous or boring to actually have to join every time. I don't see it as a double standard to want a healthy mix of both - that being said, I would've liked some open workshops at uni. Not lectures but some classes like painting, debating, sports or even acting. But well, I'm still happy with what we got.

"SimTrippy;c-17312417" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17312385" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

Actually the big pro used by Sims 4 fans back then was that Sims 4 had so much potential because it wouldn’t have to work with rabbitholes, everything would be open! I see different double standards than you do apparently ;)

@LeGardePourpre The Sims 3 campus is almost a spitting image of that too.

If I may interject: I think people were just happy that many things (like restaurants) were not rabbit holes because it's of course more fun to dine out with your sims than see them disappear. But I also recall many people saying they'd like some of the rabbit holes back - I think in part because it's just not realistic to expect them to make everything open, if only because of the massive performance issues this would cause. Plus, some rabbit holes like grocery stores, cinemas, certain types of office buildings, do make the world seem more lively but might be arduous or boring to actually have to join every time. I don't see it as a double standard to want a healthy mix of both - that being said, I would've liked some open workshops at uni. Not lectures but some classes like painting, debating, sports or even acting. But well, I'm still happy with what we got.

There is painting outside with a model and everything but only if you choose just 3 classes and it leaves thing like that open for you Sims to do. There is a debate team at podiums. There are several other things too - I saw them in the live play but as i said you have to leave elective open and only pick 3 classes. During live play I saw a debate, I saw the painting with the model, I saw a poetry reading - there was more too but the girl doing the live play kept moving around to other things too. I hear there was Drama class - I wish I could have seen that - there's something to do with law but i didn't catch what they said so I don't know. I wanted robotics myself - not in the dorm stuff - but i believe that was being covered today so of course I missed it. But what you get to see and partake in all depends completely on how you do your sims classes and such. You choose and can partake in how you want to attend University. Like you want kitchens where you stay - well you can't be in a dorm but you can have roommates and live in a house and have kitchens. I would just live in a dorm myself and go get free food in the cafeteria. Beats the heck out of microwave food and set it up to have a study group right after eating to get higher grade scores so I can go for scholarships for the next semester. No loans for my sim if i can help it. lol.

Oh and there was a study group at the library and a free lunch in the cafeteria... I watched several hours and saw so much - believe me there is plenty and the girl showing it all said she had more she would be showing once the full embargo was lifted. I did not get to watch today so I haven't seen them but heard they were the best stuff yet and had several hours of that stuff ready to show. I wished i could have seen it but sometimes real life gets in the way - lol.

"Writin_Reg;c-17312431" wrote:

"SimTrippy;c-17312417" wrote:

"JoAnne65;c-17312385" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17310947" wrote:

"pinkparka;c-17301800" wrote:

"WolfNate;c-17301709" wrote:

"Ellupelluellu;c-17300913" wrote:
I liked the trailer :) I personally wish the majors are rabbitholes! I love to have secret society returning! Uni is my favourite at Sims2.

Lots of unpopular opinions, but we all have the right to have an opinion :)

What... Person wants Rabbitholes?!

I barely want to go to university classes in real life, why would I want to watch my sim sit through a lecture?

But in all seriousness I actually prefer rabbit hole classes, especially if that means they fleshed out other parts of the college experience more!

So much this. College classes are very dull and boring. Also found this amusing to read from when the Sims 4 started: "No rabbit holes at all - Sims move off-screen for work and school. There are no hospitals, work/school buildings...etc. (x)" Source: https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.858050-89-Features-Missing-From-The-Sims-4

Apparently a lot of people agreed to wanting rabbit holes then.

Actually the big pro used by Sims 4 fans back then was that Sims 4 had so much potential because it wouldn’t have to work with rabbitholes, everything would be open! I see different double standards than you do apparently ;)

@LeGardePourpre The Sims 3 campus is almost a spitting image of that too.

If I may interject: I think people were just happy that many things (like restaurants) were not rabbit holes because it's of course more fun to dine out with your sims than see them disappear. But I also recall many people saying they'd like some of the rabbit holes back - I think in part because it's just not realistic to expect them to make everything open, if only because of the massive performance issues this would cause. Plus, some rabbit holes like grocery stores, cinemas, certain types of office buildings, do make the world seem more lively but might be arduous or boring to actually have to join every time. I don't see it as a double standard to want a healthy mix of both - that being said, I would've liked some open workshops at uni. Not lectures but some classes like painting, debating, sports or even acting. But well, I'm still happy with what we got.

There is painting outside with a model and everything but only if you choose just 3 classes and it leaves thing like that open for you Sims to do. There is a debate team at podiums. There are several other things too - I saw them in the live play but as i said you have to leave elective open and only pick 3 classes. During live play I saw a debate, I saw the painting with the model, I saw a poetry reading - there was more too but the girl doing the live play kept moving around to other things too. I hear there was Drama class - I wish I could have seen that - there's something to do with law but i didn't catch what they said so I don't know. I wanted robotics myself - not in the dorm stuff - but i believe that was being covered today so of course I missed it. But what you get to see and partake in all depends completely on how you do your sims classes and such. You choose and can partake in how you want to attend University. Like you want kitchens where you stay - well you can't be in a dorm but you can have roommates and live in a house and have kitchens. I would just live in a dorm myself and go get free food in the cafeteria. Beats the heck out of microwave food and set it up to have a study group right after eating to get higher grade scores so I can go for scholarships for the next semester. No loans for my sim if i can help it. lol.

Oh and there was a study group at the library and a free lunch in the cafeteria... I watched several hours and saw so much - believe me there is plenty and the girl showing it all said she had more she would be showing once the full embargo was lifted. I did not get to watch today so I haven't seen them but heard they were the best stuff yet and had several hours of that stuff ready to show. I wished i could have seen it but sometimes real life gets in the way - lol.

Oh I wasn't complaining, I'm very excited and agree there is a lot of fun stuff! It would have just been cool to have one active class - especially given how well they handles Get Famous, I love that EP and the acting career. But that doesn't mean I'm unhappy with what we're getting, just wanted to add my 2 cts to the open vs rabbit hole discussion xD