The Sims 4 Horse ranch negative discussion.

"Coconut27;c-18279667" wrote:
I love that there is rep for indigenous people, and the goats are cute, but that's all the positives I got from that trailer. I still don't understand why miniature goats/sheep came with this pack. It really feels like they added them to try to qualify this as an EP instead of a GP. I still believe nectar making should've been in MWS, my stance won't ever change on that. I hope the goats at least have depth too. Those kinds of goats love to play and exercise so I hope there's things for them to do in this pack that are interactive and playful.

I agree with what others have said, that the horses seem just like the ones from TS3, so far not much makes them stand out and makes them unique from TS3 Pets EP. I suppose time will only tell once more info and a gameplay trailer releases. As of right now, this seems like a GP, which seems to be a common theme with TS4 pack releases lately.

I agree that I didn't want this to be the expansion pack. I wanted it to be fairies. In fact when they were pushing them at the same time I was even willing to entertain them combined somehow. But ideally I wanted a Fae expansion and maybe a horses gamepack.

The fae expansion would not be focused on a bunch of other stuff like Island Living and leave the Mermaids half baked. It would be heavily focused on the variety of fae and their world(s). And they could fix mermaid while they were at it by saying they are a type of fae. They could even bring in the genies. And tie in separate lore from the Spellcaster trilogy going on. They could allude to magical steeds that have gone into the mists and will return soon.

And then the next GP is horses, but also steeds. And you get cross pack integration. Or you do it the other way and do the GP first idc.

I like the goats and sheep. But they honestly seem like the answer to alot of players complaining about how they managed lactose intolerance, making it a trait, making it so unrealistic in gameplay, and the fact that sims won't refuse the food so simmers are likely to forget. Just like with vegetarian. For awhile we were asking for another option, something easier than the plant milk. Especially with simple living, if you were trying to be self-sufficient. Or just wanted to do the Cottagecore vibes. I was one of the simmers asking for a goat. I definitely saw other simmers asking for more types of wool, more options to craft with. Because it had already gotten a bit repetitive. And the sheds were a bit annoying.
I think I kinda thought at least some new lactose free options would be basegame. Not tossed behind another paywall. But I guess it makes sense from their end, the posion came behind a paywall, so the cure is behind another one in it's twin pack. Same with the new wool. Plus like you said, it beefs up the pack. If they had actually just given them to us; if they had done something like, "this is free but you must have Cottage Living installed", kind of like how they made that kit but only console players got it, or that family portrait that you had to play the sims mobile for within a certain period of time(and it didn't even recognize that I did and kept going in and out of my game for years), then this would just be a really good gamepack.
A pack a lot of simmers would be happy about. After all it's literally an extension of Cats and Dogs and Cottage Living. We already had two expansion that could've and should've handled this in some way shape or form. Making a 3rd is still gonna annoy people and build enmity even if they buy your products for now. But if you make it a well thought out gamepack, with a lower price point, just covering the areas you missed, fleshing it out fully, and leaving room for a Fully fleshed out expansion pack later. Much fewer issues.

"LeGardePourpre;c-18279711" wrote:
Dwarf goat probably means no goat milk.

Milking the goats is confirmed in the descriptions.

@LeGardePourpre

Together with The Sims team, Stacey worked to co-create food, home items, and clothing that are represented in Horse Ranch, reflecting elements of Native American culture.

I was really, really really hoping for a music/bands pack.

Honestly, my only complaints are NEED MORE HOUSEHOLD SLOTS and need to be able to control pets. Without mods, mkay? Cause with one misclick, I can wipe out all of my sims/pets over 8 if I'm not careful, and that's just not cool.

"alanmichael1;c-18279713" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;c-18279711" wrote:
Dwarf goat probably means no goat milk.

Milking the goats is confirmed in the descriptions.

Yeah, but I'm worried about this, because it specifically said that you could shear the sheep and milk the goats "for Simoleans." I'm concerned this means that we won't be able to actually get/use the wool and goat milk.

"Amapola76;c-18279870" wrote:

"alanmichael1;c-18279713" wrote:

"LeGardePourpre;c-18279711" wrote:
Dwarf goat probably means no goat milk.

Milking the goats is confirmed in the descriptions.

Yeah, but I'm worried about this, because it specifically said that you could shear the sheep and milk the goats "for Simoleans." I'm concerned this means that we won't be able to actually get/use the wool and goat milk.

I noticed that too, but in one of the leaked pictures you could see the sheep being shaven and there was a handful of wool beside it. Also, don't think they would literally milk the goats and get simoleons, but rather milk which could be sold for money.

I'm very annoyed by the fact that horses are gonna be household members, which means taking up one of the eight slots we have... and if you want more than one, then that's just another slot taken up... and another...

I've been peeved by this decision since 'Cats & Dogs'... it's ridiculous how we basically need to decide between more family members VS more pets... in previous games, pets had their own slots and didn't take up a slot from the human Sim household.

We should be able to have 8 Sims and 8 pets... without having to resort to using mods.

"WildIrishBanshee;c-18279841" wrote:
Honestly, my only complaints are NEED MORE HOUSEHOLD SLOTS and need to be able to control pets. Without mods, mkay? Cause with one misclick, I can wipe out all of my sims/pets over 8 if I'm not careful, and that's just not cool.

This is exactly the first thing I thought of when I realized horses were gonna be "household members"... they need to either allow us to have more slots in the household, or remove pets from the slots entirely... because this is negatively impacting family players who want to also have pets in their stories.

Why couldn't they just let us have 8 slots for human Sims and 8 slots for pets? It's ridiculous.

"MichelleW;c-18279506" wrote:
I'm still not sure what justifies this as an EP and not a GP. I guess I just need to see more.

They'll probably claim the world itself is what makes it an expansion pack... :|