the sims 4 sims need major update

"sweetface44;d-962997" wrote:
the game is beautiful and very pleasing to look at, but the sims 4 sims are the problem they are very boring to play honestly in order for any thing interesting to happen you have to force interactions.. the sims don't feel connected to anything or anyone in this game.. i am hoping that the next major update pumps life into the sims themself, they need to be livelier. i watch a sims just stand for 5 real minutes staring into space.. they stand idle way too long.. they are not alive like the sims from sims 2 in that game there was always something happening, and they never just stand around all that i am trying to say is the sims in sims 4 need work if this game is going to last another 3 or four yearsi don't care how much beauty you throw at it.. it is the sims that have the problem..

When I go to a nightclub in Sims 4, or some public lot, I see sims endlessly dancing, or talking to each other, or just standing there. Also sims in 3 behave much more lively and interactive and varied and interesting than my sims in 4. Granted, that’s on a pc with a good processor, but the very same computer I play Sims 4 on.

"pepperjax1230;c-17163929" wrote:

"Sigzy05;c-17163461" wrote:
I completely agree with you.

You agree with them even though they were very adamant about disliking the game when it first came out. The sims standing around is a glitch thats why they are doing it and its never been fixed. My sims are lively but I guess that is just my game.

It’s always been quite dull in my game, but the just standing there doing nothing indeed seems to be a glitch. That doesn’t make it less of a problem though does it?

My own sims don't stand around doing nothing tho. I know it sometimes happens with NPCs. OP, are you talking about the townies and NPCs?

"DeKay;c-17166578" wrote:
My own sims don't stand around doing nothing tho. I know it sometimes happens with NPCs. OP, are you talking about the townies and NPCs?

No I’m talking about my sims in my families and the fact that nothing ever just happens like the lounge chair that come with island living they can’t interact with each other or even have any interaction while lounging in the chair same with dine out no seated interactions sims 2 had it

Mine do it because of the bug. But even then... what they do on their own is stupid. When a kid invites friends, they should want to do something together, not go to the computer. They should go on the monkey bars or the swings on their own - I mean, they are children!!!
The whole behaviors/personalities/relationships thing needs an update (and don't get me started on whims).

A lot of traits (mainly looking at the emotional section) are just moodlet/emotion triggers and are therefore largely worthless. Why pick the Genius trait when you can make a Sim focused just by playing chess? Why pick Active when you can just take a brisk shower? Why pick Romantic when you can just watch the romantic channel? Emotions are the big factor for me when it comes to dull gameplay. All Sims behave the same when they have the same emotion. All sad Sims will talk to themselves in the mirror. All embarrassed Sims will do the same thing. All angry Sims go and shout at the stuffed bear in the kids room.

All Sims do the same thing when idle. They'll all dance, they'll all play on the computer, they all randomly go around hugging each other.

Just look at traits from The Sims 3 and then compare them to their Sims 4 version. The drop in depth is obvious.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBYk1Z6v/3vs4-Good.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8sQqzBd7/3vs4-Family-Oriented.png

It's like that pretty much across the board. The Evil trait is a massive example of this drop in depth. Traits need to add more flavour to a Sim, little details or tweaks in behaviour that actually make them different.

"PrincipleOfEntropy;c-17169653" wrote:
A lot of traits (mainly looking at the emotional section) are just moodlet/emotion triggers and are therefore largely worthless. Why pick the Genius trait when you can make a Sim focused just by playing chess? Why pick Active when you can just take a brisk shower? Why pick Romantic when you can just watch the romantic channel? Emotions are the big factor for me when it comes to dull gameplay. All Sims behave the same when they have the same emotion. All sad Sims will talk to themselves in the mirror. All embarrassed Sims will do the same thing. All angry Sims go and shout at the stuffed bear in the kids room.

All Sims do the same thing when idle. They'll all dance, they'll all play on the computer, they all randomly go around hugging each other.

Just look at traits from The Sims 3 and then compare them to their Sims 4 version. The drop in depth is obvious.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBYk1Z6v/3vs4-Good.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8sQqzBd7/3vs4-Family-Oriented.png

It's like that pretty much across the board. The Evil trait is a massive example of this drop in depth. Traits need to add more flavour to a Sim, little details or tweaks in behaviour that actually make them different.

I know this game have some problems but oh my... The Sims 3 is a monster of game, in a good way.

"PrincipleOfEntropy;c-17169653" wrote:
A lot of traits (mainly looking at the emotional section) are just moodlet/emotion triggers and are therefore largely worthless. Why pick the Genius trait when you can make a Sim focused just by playing chess? Why pick Active when you can just take a brisk shower? Why pick Romantic when you can just watch the romantic channel? Emotions are the big factor for me when it comes to dull gameplay. All Sims behave the same when they have the same emotion. All sad Sims will talk to themselves in the mirror. All embarrassed Sims will do the same thing. All angry Sims go and shout at the stuffed bear in the kids room.

All Sims do the same thing when idle. They'll all dance, they'll all play on the computer, they all randomly go around hugging each other.

Just look at traits from The Sims 3 and then compare them to their Sims 4 version. The drop in depth is obvious.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBYk1Z6v/3vs4-Good.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8sQqzBd7/3vs4-Family-Oriented.png

It's like that pretty much across the board. The Evil trait is a massive example of this drop in depth. Traits need to add more flavour to a Sim, little details or tweaks in behaviour that actually make them different.

I knew this, but seeing it written down makes it so much more significant. I agree sims need to be fixed first and foremost. Doesn’t matter how much dlc you throw at the game, it will never be any good if the sims themselves are one dimensional and dull.

"PrincipleOfEntropy;c-17169653" wrote:
A lot of traits (mainly looking at the emotional section) are just moodlet/emotion triggers and are therefore largely worthless. Why pick the Genius trait when you can make a Sim focused just by playing chess? Why pick Active when you can just take a brisk shower? Why pick Romantic when you can just watch the romantic channel? Emotions are the big factor for me when it comes to dull gameplay. All Sims behave the same when they have the same emotion. All sad Sims will talk to themselves in the mirror. All embarrassed Sims will do the same thing. All angry Sims go and shout at the stuffed bear in the kids room.

All Sims do the same thing when idle. They'll all dance, they'll all play on the computer, they all randomly go around hugging each other.

Just look at traits from The Sims 3 and then compare them to their Sims 4 version. The drop in depth is obvious.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBYk1Z6v/3vs4-Good.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8sQqzBd7/3vs4-Family-Oriented.png

It's like that pretty much across the board. The Evil trait is a massive example of this drop in depth. Traits need to add more flavour to a Sim, little details or tweaks in behaviour that actually make them different.

Woah. That's crazy. I knew s3 sims always interacted a lot more with other sims and their surrounding world, but this really puts into perspective why. I've always asked for better reactions from sims, but I never knew that the problem was this big.

My vamp sim has the 'do nothing' thing going on too - she will just sit/stand blankly for a while like a strangerville zombie until she gets an action in her cue (a repetitive mixture of troll forums, talk to sim on lot, drink plasma or work on one of the creative skills, none of which relate to her traits). I also know the game isn't hanging or anything because my other (mer)sim will be swimming in the sea at the time (her version of repetitiveness). S4 sims just really need some spontaneity and a personality/trait overhaul.

"PrincipleOfEntropy;c-17169653" wrote:
A lot of traits (mainly looking at the emotional section) are just moodlet/emotion triggers and are therefore largely worthless. Why pick the Genius trait when you can make a Sim focused just by playing chess? Why pick Active when you can just take a brisk shower? Why pick Romantic when you can just watch the romantic channel? Emotions are the big factor for me when it comes to dull gameplay. All Sims behave the same when they have the same emotion. All sad Sims will talk to themselves in the mirror. All embarrassed Sims will do the same thing. All angry Sims go and shout at the stuffed bear in the kids room.

All Sims do the same thing when idle. They'll all dance, they'll all play on the computer, they all randomly go around hugging each other.

Just look at traits from The Sims 3 and then compare them to their Sims 4 version. The drop in depth is obvious.

https://i.postimg.cc/vBYk1Z6v/3vs4-Good.png

https://i.postimg.cc/8sQqzBd7/3vs4-Family-Oriented.png

It's like that pretty much across the board. The Evil trait is a massive example of this drop in depth. Traits need to add more flavour to a Sim, little details or tweaks in behaviour that actually make them different.

Wow, seeing this kind of makes me wish I would have played TS3 :/