The Sims 4 will continue into 2018!

"Horrorgirl6;c-15734373" wrote:
Erpe is kinda right we really don't know what P said was true ? Honestly what I think happened was that Olympus, and Sims 4 were simply developing around the same time . When Olympus was cancelled . Both teams and idea s came together to make the Sims 4 we have now.

I bet if somebody knows something, he/she is not allowed to talk about it. Once that person quits and thus allowed to talk, we may not believe it. Anyway, it is kinda strange to pursue the truth in the speculation forum. ;)

"Glacier;c-15734415" wrote:

"Horrorgirl6;c-15734373" wrote:
Erpe is kinda right we really don't know what P said was true ? Honestly what I think happened was that Olympus, and Sims 4 were simply developing around the same time . When Olympus was cancelled . Both teams and idea s came together to make the Sims 4 we have now.

I bet if somebody knows something, he/she is not allowed to talk about it. Once that person quits and thus allowed to talk, we may not believe it. Anyway, it is kinda strange to pursue the truth in the speculation forum. ;)

They are not allowed to talk about it even if they quit. Otherwise we could just ask Lucy Bradshaw or any of the many other earlier developers who know the truth but now work for other game companies after having left EA after TS4 was released. Not one of them have ever commented on how EA's games were planned and developed - which of course is because they had to accept an agreement with EA not to do it.

EA is a huge company with 8,500 employees. So if EA hadn't done anything to prevent it then some of all those employees would always leak something they knew either from the studio they work in or because they had heard other employees talk about (maybe just in a lunch break). Therefore I am quite sure that EA let all employees sign a document where they accept that they can't talk about inside information to anybody outside EA even if they later should leave EA and that EA has a right to get a huge compensation from them and bring them to court if they should do it anyway.

This is also the reason why I wondered so much when Patrick Kelly leaked his information because he couldn't have avoided to know that EA could sue him for maybe everything he owned if he did so. So why did he do it anyway?

P. K.'s information also didn't seem likely. But I didn't care much about it at the time. I just knew that EA would have to sue him to avoid other employees to ever dare to do something similar. But EA apparently didn't. Why not?

It was only when people kept claiming that Olympus was the cause for TS4 being as it is that I finally looked back because as I wrote the Olympus videos looked completely outdated and like they were from an old Sims game for some kind of console. So finally I looked after old videos on YouTube. The Olympus videos were too outdated to be from a Sims 3 game but also too new to be from the Sims 1 days. Therefore my intuition told me to start with Sims 2 games for different consoles. The first video I found was from the Sims 2 for PS2 and I immediately knew that I didn't have to look any further because the sims in it were identical with the sims in the Olympus videos and so was the way they moved which I never have seen in any other Sims game.

So now I know why EA didn't sue P. K. and also why P. K. didn't fear that EA would do it because neither his videos nor any of his other "information" had anything to do with inside information or a current game :)

"Erpe;c-15734151" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15733933" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15733757" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15732976" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15732965" wrote:

"Neia;c-15732688" wrote:
@Erpe
You the real truth ? More like the craziest and most baseless theories ever, and if it actually contradicts the facts, the better. I'm still waiting for this EP you said would definitely come before the next family GP ;)

I'm not blaming EA for anything by the way. It's just a fact that there was an online project being worked on by Maxis, and I don't have any problem with that. That's what video game developpers do, they try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Online TS4 is certainly not the first video game project that wouldn't come to fruition, and it won't be the last.

I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand or why you don't think that Patrick Kelly could have done it all on his own. But maybe it is because you don't have the same technical knowledge as I have from studying computer science on our university and therefore don't know that any modder with access to the source code for TS2 for consoles could have made the "Olympus videos" in about an hour and that a software engineer like Patrick Kelly therefore even more easily could have done it because he even was one of the software engineers for the old console game too. He didn't need help from anybody!

Are you seriously claiming P.K. wasn't the guru who worked on the Olympus' (real project) UI? Have you even notice the Sims in the Olympus video mockups are the same Sims in this game? People pointed all that out three years ago, and yes, some are in the game today. And so are their outfits. And so is the furniture. His bio (just like anybody else's listed working for EA stated he worked on the UI (before it was dropped to be TS4 for PC/single player) so no he didn't make up anything. :neutral:

P. K. was an earlier employer in EA. I know that he worked on the UI for TS2 for consoles and that he had left EA some time before he published his videos and "information" about Olympus in 2013.

Some people claim that some of the content in his video also can be found in the game. But all the videos were in the style used in TS2 for consoles and not at all in TS4 stile. Of course there are still sims, furniture and clothes in both TS4 and in the old console game and it maybe similar sometimes. So because people only compared Olympus with TS4 and not with TS2 for consoles they could easily have reached the wrong conclusion about Olympus and TS4. No surprise there. But the Olympus videos are clearly made from TS2 for consoles and it wouldn't make sense at all if the developers of TS4 started with material from that old console game!

The other problem is that people saw it as a "confirmation" of P. K.'s claim about TS4 starting as a MMO game every time a developer referred to TS4 as an "internet based game" even though that most likely only meant that it would be sold as digital downloads and not on discs in all the game stores.

It's a different style because it was Olympus project, and not the TS4 for pc, they dropped that game, in 2013 per Frank Gibeau, and started building offline game after Sim City 2013. They ported or saved what they could and brought to TS4. It wasn't a console game it was an MMO/for tablet.

If you are referring to the same message from Frank Gibeau as I think then he only said that TS4 wouldn't require an Internet connection after it was installed. A lot of people thought that was a change because they had believed Patrick Kelly. But Frank didn't say that it was any change at all.

To assume that Olympus was a new MMO Sims game for tablets doesn't make sense because EA already had the Sims Freeplay which was released in 2011 and still is EA's main Sims game for all mobile devices and EA doesn't even want the Sims Freeplay to have a PC version because EA doesn't want Freeplay on the same platform as TS4.

Also Olympus couldn't be a MMO game if it was intended for consoles because then it would be much cheaper and better to just make a console version of the Sims Freeplay too.

So if Olympus should have any meaning at all as a MMO game then it could only have been intended for PCs and it would also still have to be quite different from the Sims Freeplay anyway. So I only see a few possible options:
1. If Olympus wasn't anything like the Sims Freeplay then maybe it could be intended for consoles. But then it doesn't sound reasonably that Olympus would have been a MMO game at all.
2. If it was intended for PCs as a MMO game and very different from the Sims Freeplay then it must have been intended to be a much bigger game. But this would have meant that it really would have been TS4 which still doesn't sound likely.
3. Olympus could have been a browser game or a Facebook game. That maybe could explain even the primitive graphics taken from TS2 for consoles. But again does it really sound likely that EA again would make such a game after having tried the Sims Online and the Sims Social?

No, it was not intended for laptop/desktop. iPad/tablet is not either of those. You are forgetting EA has a goal for everything to be mobile. But those plans backfired when a backlash to SC2013 let them know Sims fans aren't ready for mobile games only.

ETA: If none of this was true then you can bet gurus would tell us to stop spreading false information and no one so far in four years have. ETA: And it's a fact Sims Studio worked on a Sim project for three years and dropped it in 2013. But you wanting to argue is actually taking this thread off topic. This thread is about TS4 lasting well into 2018. That remains to be seen.

"Cinebar;c-15736212" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15734151" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15733933" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15733757" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15732976" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15732965" wrote:

"Neia;c-15732688" wrote:
@Erpe
You the real truth ? More like the craziest and most baseless theories ever, and if it actually contradicts the facts, the better. I'm still waiting for this EP you said would definitely come before the next family GP ;)

I'm not blaming EA for anything by the way. It's just a fact that there was an online project being worked on by Maxis, and I don't have any problem with that. That's what video game developpers do, they try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Online TS4 is certainly not the first video game project that wouldn't come to fruition, and it won't be the last.

I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand or why you don't think that Patrick Kelly could have done it all on his own. But maybe it is because you don't have the same technical knowledge as I have from studying computer science on our university and therefore don't know that any modder with access to the source code for TS2 for consoles could have made the "Olympus videos" in about an hour and that a software engineer like Patrick Kelly therefore even more easily could have done it because he even was one of the software engineers for the old console game too. He didn't need help from anybody!

Are you seriously claiming P.K. wasn't the guru who worked on the Olympus' (real project) UI? Have you even notice the Sims in the Olympus video mockups are the same Sims in this game? People pointed all that out three years ago, and yes, some are in the game today. And so are their outfits. And so is the furniture. His bio (just like anybody else's listed working for EA stated he worked on the UI (before it was dropped to be TS4 for PC/single player) so no he didn't make up anything. :neutral:

P. K. was an earlier employer in EA. I know that he worked on the UI for TS2 for consoles and that he had left EA some time before he published his videos and "information" about Olympus in 2013.

Some people claim that some of the content in his video also can be found in the game. But all the videos were in the style used in TS2 for consoles and not at all in TS4 stile. Of course there are still sims, furniture and clothes in both TS4 and in the old console game and it maybe similar sometimes. So because people only compared Olympus with TS4 and not with TS2 for consoles they could easily have reached the wrong conclusion about Olympus and TS4. No surprise there. But the Olympus videos are clearly made from TS2 for consoles and it wouldn't make sense at all if the developers of TS4 started with material from that old console game!

The other problem is that people saw it as a "confirmation" of P. K.'s claim about TS4 starting as a MMO game every time a developer referred to TS4 as an "internet based game" even though that most likely only meant that it would be sold as digital downloads and not on discs in all the game stores.

It's a different style because it was Olympus project, and not the TS4 for pc, they dropped that game, in 2013 per Frank Gibeau, and started building offline game after Sim City 2013. They ported or saved what they could and brought to TS4. It wasn't a console game it was an MMO/for tablet.

If you are referring to the same message from Frank Gibeau as I think then he only said that TS4 wouldn't require an Internet connection after it was installed. A lot of people thought that was a change because they had believed Patrick Kelly. But Frank didn't say that it was any change at all.

To assume that Olympus was a new MMO Sims game for tablets doesn't make sense because EA already had the Sims Freeplay which was released in 2011 and still is EA's main Sims game for all mobile devices and EA doesn't even want the Sims Freeplay to have a PC version because EA doesn't want Freeplay on the same platform as TS4.

Also Olympus couldn't be a MMO game if it was intended for consoles because then it would be much cheaper and better to just make a console version of the Sims Freeplay too.

So if Olympus should have any meaning at all as a MMO game then it could only have been intended for PCs and it would also still have to be quite different from the Sims Freeplay anyway. So I only see a few possible options:
1. If Olympus wasn't anything like the Sims Freeplay then maybe it could be intended for consoles. But then it doesn't sound reasonably that Olympus would have been a MMO game at all.
2. If it was intended for PCs as a MMO game and very different from the Sims Freeplay then it must have been intended to be a much bigger game. But this would have meant that it really would have been TS4 which still doesn't sound likely.
3. Olympus could have been a browser game or a Facebook game. That maybe could explain even the primitive graphics taken from TS2 for consoles. But again does it really sound likely that EA again would make such a game after having tried the Sims Online and the Sims Social?

No, it was not intended for laptop/desktop. iPad/tablet is not either of those. You are forgetting EA has a goal for everything to be mobile. But those plans backfired when a backlash to SC2013 let them know Sims fans aren't ready for mobile games only.

SC2013 was a PC game only. So I don't understand your point here?

ETA: If none of this was true then you can bet gurus would tell us to stop spreading false information and no one so far in four years have. ETA: And it's a fact Sims Studio worked on a Sim project for three years and dropped it in 2013. But you wanting to argue is actually taking this thread off topic. This thread is about TS4 lasting well into 2018. That remains to be seen.

The gurus have never commented on this and they would much more likely have stopped the discussion here if I had got it wrong. But the problem for the gurus is that they can neither confirm Olympus nor deny it without giving us inside information which they aren't allowed to give us. If they told us that people's Olympus theories are partly wrong, mostly wrong or partly true then it would just cause new questions, speculations and theories which they then would have to comment on too. So soon they would have told us almost everything even though EA strictly don't allow them to give us any details about such things at all.

So it is no wonder that they choose to keep out of the discussion. But that they don't close the discussion already is something that wouldn't have happened just a couple of years ago. This could indicate that they actually would like us to find the truth if only we do it on our own.

"Erpe;c-15736363" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15736212" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15734151" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15733933" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15733757" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15732976" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15732965" wrote:

"Neia;c-15732688" wrote:
@Erpe
You the real truth ? More like the craziest and most baseless theories ever, and if it actually contradicts the facts, the better. I'm still waiting for this EP you said would definitely come before the next family GP ;)

I'm not blaming EA for anything by the way. It's just a fact that there was an online project being worked on by Maxis, and I don't have any problem with that. That's what video game developpers do, they try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Online TS4 is certainly not the first video game project that wouldn't come to fruition, and it won't be the last.

I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand or why you don't think that Patrick Kelly could have done it all on his own. But maybe it is because you don't have the same technical knowledge as I have from studying computer science on our university and therefore don't know that any modder with access to the source code for TS2 for consoles could have made the "Olympus videos" in about an hour and that a software engineer like Patrick Kelly therefore even more easily could have done it because he even was one of the software engineers for the old console game too. He didn't need help from anybody!

Are you seriously claiming P.K. wasn't the guru who worked on the Olympus' (real project) UI? Have you even notice the Sims in the Olympus video mockups are the same Sims in this game? People pointed all that out three years ago, and yes, some are in the game today. And so are their outfits. And so is the furniture. His bio (just like anybody else's listed working for EA stated he worked on the UI (before it was dropped to be TS4 for PC/single player) so no he didn't make up anything. :neutral:

P. K. was an earlier employer in EA. I know that he worked on the UI for TS2 for consoles and that he had left EA some time before he published his videos and "information" about Olympus in 2013.

Some people claim that some of the content in his video also can be found in the game. But all the videos were in the style used in TS2 for consoles and not at all in TS4 stile. Of course there are still sims, furniture and clothes in both TS4 and in the old console game and it maybe similar sometimes. So because people only compared Olympus with TS4 and not with TS2 for consoles they could easily have reached the wrong conclusion about Olympus and TS4. No surprise there. But the Olympus videos are clearly made from TS2 for consoles and it wouldn't make sense at all if the developers of TS4 started with material from that old console game!

The other problem is that people saw it as a "confirmation" of P. K.'s claim about TS4 starting as a MMO game every time a developer referred to TS4 as an "internet based game" even though that most likely only meant that it would be sold as digital downloads and not on discs in all the game stores.

It's a different style because it was Olympus project, and not the TS4 for pc, they dropped that game, in 2013 per Frank Gibeau, and started building offline game after Sim City 2013. They ported or saved what they could and brought to TS4. It wasn't a console game it was an MMO/for tablet.

If you are referring to the same message from Frank Gibeau as I think then he only said that TS4 wouldn't require an Internet connection after it was installed. A lot of people thought that was a change because they had believed Patrick Kelly. But Frank didn't say that it was any change at all.

To assume that Olympus was a new MMO Sims game for tablets doesn't make sense because EA already had the Sims Freeplay which was released in 2011 and still is EA's main Sims game for all mobile devices and EA doesn't even want the Sims Freeplay to have a PC version because EA doesn't want Freeplay on the same platform as TS4.

Also Olympus couldn't be a MMO game if it was intended for consoles because then it would be much cheaper and better to just make a console version of the Sims Freeplay too.

So if Olympus should have any meaning at all as a MMO game then it could only have been intended for PCs and it would also still have to be quite different from the Sims Freeplay anyway. So I only see a few possible options:
1. If Olympus wasn't anything like the Sims Freeplay then maybe it could be intended for consoles. But then it doesn't sound reasonably that Olympus would have been a MMO game at all.
2. If it was intended for PCs as a MMO game and very different from the Sims Freeplay then it must have been intended to be a much bigger game. But this would have meant that it really would have been TS4 which still doesn't sound likely.
3. Olympus could have been a browser game or a Facebook game. That maybe could explain even the primitive graphics taken from TS2 for consoles. But again does it really sound likely that EA again would make such a game after having tried the Sims Online and the Sims Social?

No, it was not intended for laptop/desktop. iPad/tablet is not either of those. You are forgetting EA has a goal for everything to be mobile. But those plans backfired when a backlash to SC2013 let them know Sims fans aren't ready for mobile games only.

SC2013 was a PC game only. So I don't understand your point here?

ETA: If none of this was true then you can bet gurus would tell us to stop spreading false information and no one so far in four years have. ETA: And it's a fact Sims Studio worked on a Sim project for three years and dropped it in 2013. But you wanting to argue is actually taking this thread off topic. This thread is about TS4 lasting well into 2018. That remains to be seen.

The gurus have never commented on this and they would much more likely have stopped the discussion here if I had got it wrong. But the problem for the gurus is that they can neither confirm Olympus nor deny it without giving us inside information which they aren't allowed to give us. If they told us that people's Olympus theories are partly wrong, mostly wrong or partly true then it would just cause new questions, speculations and theories which they then would have to comment on too. So soon they would have told us almost everything even though EA strictly don't allow them to give us any details about such things at all.

So it is no wonder that they choose to keep out of the discussion. But that they don't close the discussion already is something that wouldn't have happened just a couple of years ago. This could indicate that they actually would like us to find the truth if only we do it on our own.

You really believe a particular guru wouldn't say stop spreading false rumors the TS4 used to be the Olympus? I have to disagree I think that would have happened the first day three years ago.= and especially since we are now on the actual TS4 forums.

"Ciarassims;c-15737145" wrote:
This is still going on LOL....

Right? I stopped caring ages ago.

Case In Point: Patrick Kelly was asked how they could turn an Online Game into an Offline Game, and he said

They didn't.

I don't know how hard this is to comprehend. It's basically Patrick stating that the Olympus he worked on is a seperate game. Otherwise he would've explained how they could have turned it into an offline game.

But he just said they used a new engine, and explained they didn't turn an online game into an offline one.

Case closed.

"Cinebar;c-15736387" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15736363" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15736212" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15734151" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15733933" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15733757" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-15732976" wrote:

"Erpe;c-15732965" wrote:

"Neia;c-15732688" wrote:
@Erpe
You the real truth ? More like the craziest and most baseless theories ever, and if it actually contradicts the facts, the better. I'm still waiting for this EP you said would definitely come before the next family GP ;)

I'm not blaming EA for anything by the way. It's just a fact that there was an online project being worked on by Maxis, and I don't have any problem with that. That's what video game developpers do, they try new things. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Online TS4 is certainly not the first video game project that wouldn't come to fruition, and it won't be the last.

I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand or why you don't think that Patrick Kelly could have done it all on his own. But maybe it is because you don't have the same technical knowledge as I have from studying computer science on our university and therefore don't know that any modder with access to the source code for TS2 for consoles could have made the "Olympus videos" in about an hour and that a software engineer like Patrick Kelly therefore even more easily could have done it because he even was one of the software engineers for the old console game too. He didn't need help from anybody!

Are you seriously claiming P.K. wasn't the guru who worked on the Olympus' (real project) UI? Have you even notice the Sims in the Olympus video mockups are the same Sims in this game? People pointed all that out three years ago, and yes, some are in the game today. And so are their outfits. And so is the furniture. His bio (just like anybody else's listed working for EA stated he worked on the UI (before it was dropped to be TS4 for PC/single player) so no he didn't make up anything. :neutral:

P. K. was an earlier employer in EA. I know that he worked on the UI for TS2 for consoles and that he had left EA some time before he published his videos and "information" about Olympus in 2013.

Some people claim that some of the content in his video also can be found in the game. But all the videos were in the style used in TS2 for consoles and not at all in TS4 stile. Of course there are still sims, furniture and clothes in both TS4 and in the old console game and it maybe similar sometimes. So because people only compared Olympus with TS4 and not with TS2 for consoles they could easily have reached the wrong conclusion about Olympus and TS4. No surprise there. But the Olympus videos are clearly made from TS2 for consoles and it wouldn't make sense at all if the developers of TS4 started with material from that old console game!

The other problem is that people saw it as a "confirmation" of P. K.'s claim about TS4 starting as a MMO game every time a developer referred to TS4 as an "internet based game" even though that most likely only meant that it would be sold as digital downloads and not on discs in all the game stores.

It's a different style because it was Olympus project, and not the TS4 for pc, they dropped that game, in 2013 per Frank Gibeau, and started building offline game after Sim City 2013. They ported or saved what they could and brought to TS4. It wasn't a console game it was an MMO/for tablet.

If you are referring to the same message from Frank Gibeau as I think then he only said that TS4 wouldn't require an Internet connection after it was installed. A lot of people thought that was a change because they had believed Patrick Kelly. But Frank didn't say that it was any change at all.

To assume that Olympus was a new MMO Sims game for tablets doesn't make sense because EA already had the Sims Freeplay which was released in 2011 and still is EA's main Sims game for all mobile devices and EA doesn't even want the Sims Freeplay to have a PC version because EA doesn't want Freeplay on the same platform as TS4.

Also Olympus couldn't be a MMO game if it was intended for consoles because then it would be much cheaper and better to just make a console version of the Sims Freeplay too.

So if Olympus should have any meaning at all as a MMO game then it could only have been intended for PCs and it would also still have to be quite different from the Sims Freeplay anyway. So I only see a few possible options:
1. If Olympus wasn't anything like the Sims Freeplay then maybe it could be intended for consoles. But then it doesn't sound reasonably that Olympus would have been a MMO game at all.
2. If it was intended for PCs as a MMO game and very different from the Sims Freeplay then it must have been intended to be a much bigger game. But this would have meant that it really would have been TS4 which still doesn't sound likely.
3. Olympus could have been a browser game or a Facebook game. That maybe could explain even the primitive graphics taken from TS2 for consoles. But again does it really sound likely that EA again would make such a game after having tried the Sims Online and the Sims Social?

No, it was not intended for laptop/desktop. iPad/tablet is not either of those. You are forgetting EA has a goal for everything to be mobile. But those plans backfired when a backlash to SC2013 let them know Sims fans aren't ready for mobile games only.

SC2013 was a PC game only. So I don't understand your point here?

ETA: If none of this was true then you can bet gurus would tell us to stop spreading false information and no one so far in four years have. ETA: And it's a fact Sims Studio worked on a Sim project for three years and dropped it in 2013. But you wanting to argue is actually taking this thread off topic. This thread is about TS4 lasting well into 2018. That remains to be seen.

The gurus have never commented on this and they would much more likely have stopped the discussion here if I had got it wrong. But the problem for the gurus is that they can neither confirm Olympus nor deny it without giving us inside information which they aren't allowed to give us. If they told us that people's Olympus theories are partly wrong, mostly wrong or partly true then it would just cause new questions, speculations and theories which they then would have to comment on too. So soon they would have told us almost everything even though EA strictly don't allow them to give us any details about such things at all.

So it is no wonder that they choose to keep out of the discussion. But that they don't close the discussion already is something that wouldn't have happened just a couple of years ago. This could indicate that they actually would like us to find the truth if only we do it on our own.

You really believe a particular guru wouldn't say stop spreading false rumors the TS4 used to be the Olympus? I have to disagree I think that would have happened the first day three years ago.= and especially since we are now on the actual TS4 forums.

It wasn't their job and they knew that they couldn't give us the real information because it was confidential. So they just waited to see EA's reaction (the reaction from the higher-ups) which never came.

If Patrick Kelly's original information came from this forum they might have reacted differently. But it didn't and therefore it wasn't their problem. It was EA's. It isn't unlikely though that EA reacted by sending an internal message to all developers about leaving the problem to be taken care of by EA's top and EA's lawyers. Then EA soon discovered that the information wasn't confidential but false. Maybe they then contacted P. K. who agreed to take his websites down and not continue his story?

I think The Sims 4 should have some content coming out until at least the end of 2023, work should start in 2019 for TS5 and it should release in around 2025/2026.

"aws200;c-15665142" wrote:
So at least another 5-8 stuff packs, 2-4 game packs, and 1 expansion pack before end of 2018. Alright doesn't matter when it ends though. As long as they take their time with the next game and not rush it or attempt to make another Sims Online then realize people don't want always online DRM via Sim City 2013 therefore scrap the original product (Olympus) and make a new game in under a year with excuses as to why its not good as the past base games. Just take the time to make something good, a true sequel. As for Sims 4....eh its not going places after all these years so another year or two of content won't make a difference. Still lack so much base game features/content from past games after about three years. To which I doubt we will ever see in Sims 4 since there's so many issues and limitations as even the developers have admitted to. Such as beards and lounge chairs are harder to make than in the past.
http://i.imgur.com/2yzdF15.png
This is actually upsetting. If a sequel is more limiting then how can it be more fun than the last game?

If they can't even make beards, what makes anyone think they can make pets?