The Sims Summit

"cyncie;c-18183369" wrote:

"DaniRose2143;c-18183015" wrote:


Here's something that occurred to me while reading your post. What if Sims 4 and Sims 5 are going to run at the same time? They keep Sim4 going for the old, loyal fans of the franchise who don't want multiplayer. Meanwhile Sims 5 is the multiplayer option for those who want it. Sims 4 gets updates and occasional DLC. That would keep in line with all the kits, which take minimal effort, mostly modelers. One EP each year, a couple of GPs and/or pack refreshes each year and kits galore. Pack refreshes would be less manpower than a full blown pack, it allows them to address the bugs one pack at a time. The online multis are happy, and us 'dinosaurs' keep our offline sims.

They must be aware of the sentiments about offline vs online here on the forums. @EA_Cade @EA_Mari among others I would suspect are keeping them apprised of the thoughts of the community. I would like to think Maxis and EA both realize that without us loyal simmers the future of the franchise may not be so rosy. So this free them up from having to make Sims 5 both online and offline.

Just some thinking out loud, stream of consciousness style.

I’ve been saying this for a while. If they want TS5 to offer a different Sims experience without losing Simmers who aren’t into that, they could keep TS4 going as the single player version with TS5 being the online version. They didn’t drop Sims FreePlay when they introduced Sims Mobile, so they can keep more than one title going. They may spend the time before TS5 releases getting most of the major gameplay content released for TS4, then drop back to a few yearly EP/ game packs, kits and refreshes going forward.

For all it's faults I love TS4. I could get by with an EP a year and a new GP or two, as long as there are bug fixes/pack refreshes. At its core, TS4 has lots of life left if they would address the bugs. I don't want to move on, I just want this one fixed. I love the art style, I love the worlds even if I wish there weren't all the load screens. If they want to throw away everything they've built over 4 iterations and 20+ years, fine, but keep TS4 active and work on fixes. If TS5 comes to fruition, and its multiplayer online only and TS4 is abandoned, EA/Maxis will have thrown the last two decades in the trash. The Sims franchise has always been, and should always be, an oasis for offline gamers.

"simgirl1010;c-18182900" wrote:

"Simmingal;c-18182873" wrote:
well if they gonna reveal Sims 5
that is not Awesome news about The Sims 4
and I will continue to be grumpy in the corner

and if Sims 5 is coming before they fix The Sims 4
you can expect me to find permanent housing in grumpy corner

Well hopefully it'll be awesome news for everyone. A continuation of Sims 4 with lots of new content to come and an announcement of Sims 5 for those who no longer play 4 or those ready to move on. Good news for all! ?

The 'continuation of Sims 4 with lots of new content to come' is pointless unless said Sims 4 is playable. The only version I have of TS4 that is playable stops at Discover University and is without Seasons. The version that stops at Cottage Living is such a frustrating mess that I've not played it for months. As in about a couple of months past CL release. With the immense quantity of issues reported since, many due to patches, and the horrendously broken new DLC there is no way I am going to open that wreck of a game up to even more. If they intend to keep this dog's breakfast going for any length of time, they had better devote themselves to making much of that 'new content' badly needed repairs.

Cars?
Proper babies?
Create-a-world…?

Who knows? I definitely think it’s nothing to do with the Sims 5.

@DaniRose2143 I agree with everything you said. I too love my Sims, including Sims 4. I am still thinking about my Sims 4 games and how I want to continue their stories, but my frustration with the bugs, wants/fears(too extreme in affecting sims moods) and phones (obsession and camera focusing on sim changing phone cover. I don't need to know about or see this!) are game and immersion breaking. I just want this game fixed so I can enjoy it again and be able to play my sims like I want them to be played. I have little interest in Sims 5, especially if an online game. I know many people will enjoy an online game, but this one is not for me. I also don't want to lose all the investment I put into this game in time and money, so I am trying to remain hopeful that Sims 4 will be repaired so we can all return to playing and enjoying this game. Sims 4 has so much to offer in gameplay and I miss it! I do worry though, as I still am not happy that Ambitions in Sims 3, one of my favorite expansions, is still broken after all these years. Hopefully that won't happen with Sims 4 issues and they will be fixed.

But the Sims 4 is highly limited by a crappy engine. I want to play Sims 5, but single player.

Not that long after Firaxis released Civ 6, they had a livestream where they presented a multi-month roadmap called the New Frontier Pass. This included specific game features that were coming, along with 6 future DLC packs. They stayed quiet about the cultures and leaders they were introducing - it was a good way to build hype. The devs stuck to their roadmap really well, and it was great to get something new to muck about with every other month.
I'm hoping that as an EA stable mate, the devs behind the Sims take a leaf out of Firaxis' book. It was a good time to be a Civ player.

Hmm. Using the word "summit" is interesting. It implies that the game has reached its peak. I wonder if the next couple of years are going to wrap it up for content, refreshes and fixes then or if they will try to keep it teetering on the brink with big releases before it starts to decline?

Freeing up the base game does imply that they are letting go and will be sort of coasting down on whatever schedule they have planned ahead.

"12JEREMIA;c-18184317" wrote:
Anybody got somethin' to SAY?!

They had a great R&B station in the Sims 2. That's the one all my sims slow danced to. Why couldn't they just redo the one from Sims 2 to Sims 4? Seems reasonable to me...better than trying to slow dance to classical music.

"12JEREMIA;c-18184317" wrote:
Anybody got somethin' to SAY?!

I was thinking we could get a dragon/music pack. R&B&D&D, featuring songs by Dragonforce.

"Gordy;c-18184866" wrote:

"12JEREMIA;c-18184317" wrote:
Anybody got somethin' to SAY?!

I was thinking we could get a dragon/music pack. R&B&D&D, featuring songs by Dragonforce.

I quite liked Dragon when I was growing up. I still think their song "Rain" was a great example of early '80s Oz/NZ rock. Shame that their frontman, Marc Hunter, was taken by cancer way too early.

"LiELF;c-18184556" wrote:
Hmm. Using the word "summit" is interesting. It implies that the game has reached its peak.

I just regarded it as a meeting. It's like the international G7/G8 meetings they have every so often. I think it's just a meeting between heads of government or chunks of an organisation.