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"Aine;c-17152791" wrote:

"keekee53;c-17152613" wrote:

Because seasons should have came with ocean swimming, suntanning, lounge chairs and pool floaties. Then they could have focused a bit more on interactive gameplay in island Living.

If I am not mistaken those basic things were in Sims 3 seasons.

Honestly I feel like they couldn't finish seasons as they wanted, so they piece-mealed off the bits in IL and sold it as another expansion. ALL of this should be in the Seasons expansion - now THAT would have been an epic expansion - IL had been part of Seasons. Kinda scandalous they are selling a part of Seasons as another expansion, now really EA, what's up with that?

Well, that's your opinion. (Still don't know why this forum doesn't let you delete posts).

"Aine;c-17152791" wrote:

"keekee53;c-17152613" wrote:

Because seasons should have came with ocean swimming, suntanning, lounge chairs and pool floaties. Then they could have focused a bit more on interactive gameplay in island Living.

If I am not mistaken those basic things were in Sims 3 seasons.

Honestly I feel like they couldn't finish seasons as they wanted, so they piece-mealed off the bits in IL and sold it as another expansion. ALL of this should be in the Seasons expansion - now THAT would have been an epic expansion - IL had been part of Seasons. Kinda scandalous they are selling a part of Seasons as another expansion, now really EA, what's up with that?

Even if IL and Seasons were combined it wouldn’t be as epic as TS3 Seasons was.
It gave us:
•Horseshoes (butthanks Outdoor Retreat, I guess)
•Slow dancing
•Kissing booth
•Attraction system
•Hail
•Multiple layers of snow cover
•Spontaneous combustion of overheated sims
•Floats
•Ocean swimming
•Face painting
•Soccer
•Snow cones
•Hot dog eating contest (risk of choking death)
•Tanning booth
•Haunted houses
•Bobbing for apples
•Picking AND carving pumpkins
•Lakes/ponds would freeze over and sims could skate on them (in addition to rinks)
•Icicles built up on houses
•Snowboard half pipe
•Sims could make igloos and woohoo in them
•Aliens with UFO that works like a car
•Online dating service

I would encourage anyone to watch some video overviews of TS3 expansions, especially if TS4 is their first Sims game, but even if they’ve played them all because it’s so easy to forget how good we had it before.

@babajayne Good point, but it would still be pretty epic for Sims 4 standards. Which says a lot in itself. The standard has been lowered that much.

"Aine;c-17152847" wrote:
@babajayne Good point, but it would still be pretty epic for Sims 4 standards. Which says a lot in itself. The standard has been lowered that much.

Touché

"babajayne;c-17152834" wrote:

"Aine;c-17152791" wrote:

"keekee53;c-17152613" wrote:

Because seasons should have came with ocean swimming, suntanning, lounge chairs and pool floaties. Then they could have focused a bit more on interactive gameplay in island Living.

If I am not mistaken those basic things were in Sims 3 seasons.

Honestly I feel like they couldn't finish seasons as they wanted, so they piece-mealed off the bits in IL and sold it as another expansion. ALL of this should be in the Seasons expansion - now THAT would have been an epic expansion - IL had been part of Seasons. Kinda scandalous they are selling a part of Seasons as another expansion, now really EA, what's up with that?

Even if IL and Seasons were combined it wouldn’t be as epic as TS3 Seasons was.
It gave us:
•Horseshoes (butthanks Outdoor Retreat, I guess)
•Slow dancing
•Kissing booth
•Attraction system
•Hail
•Multiple layers of snow cover
•Spontaneous combustion of overheated sims
•Floats
•Ocean swimming
•Face painting
•Soccer
•Snow cones
•Hot dog eating contest (risk of choking death)
•Tanning booth
•Haunted houses
•Bobbing for apples
•Picking AND carving pumpkins
•Lakes/ponds would freeze over and sims could skate on them (in addition to rinks)
•Icicles built up on houses
•Snowboard half pipe
•Sims could make igloos and woohoo in them
•Aliens with UFO that works like a car
•Online dating service

I would encourage anyone to watch some video overviews of TS3 expansions, especially if TS4 is their first Sims game, but even if they’ve played them all because it’s so easy to forget how good we had it before.

Ugh how sad is that?? I think that list pretty much sums up why many people are upset with the lack of content in this pack and seasons probably got a pass because many were just glad to have weather finally. I did hear people voicing disappointment though. Island Living didn’t have the featured weather to hide behind.

Well babajayne, luckily for you, you can still play TS3. It is still available, the store is still operational, and modders are still modding that game. Personally, speaking as someone who has played all the sims games as they were released, I found TS3 to be the most frustrating, unstable and buggy of the games -- absolutely unplayable without mods. I still played it and enjoyed it while it ran, thanks to Twallan and his excellent mods, but I very much appreciate how stable and bug-free my TS4 game is in comparison. And I loved TS4 Seasons as it was (it is still my favourite pack), in part because it included some elements not in TS3: flower-arranging, customizable holidays and a calendar, a revamped (and greatly improved) gardening system, a new gardening career, family tree decorating and carol-singing, grand meals, more customizable decorations for houses, Flower Bunny and Father Christmas visits, beekeeping, the kiddie pool, and Patchy.

"simfriend1968;c-17152864" wrote:
Well babajayne, luckily for you, you can still play TS3. It is still available, the store is still operational, and modders are still modding that game. Personally, speaking as someone who has played all the sims games as they were released, I found TS3 to be the most frustrating, unstable and buggy of the games -- absolutely unplayable without mods. I still played it and enjoyed it while it ran, thanks to Twallan and his excellent mods, but I very much appreciate how stable and bug-free my TS4 game is in comparison. And I loved TS4 Seasons as it was (it is still my favourite pack), in part because it included some elements not in TS3: flower-arranging, customizable holidays and a calendar, a revamped (and greatly improved) gardening system, a new gardening career, family tree decorating and carol-singing, grand meals, more customizable decorations for houses, beekeeping, the kiddie pool, and Patchy.

I don’t think the point of the post was going back to play Sims 3. The post was to show a comparison of content.

I disagree with Sims 4 being bug free because there are so many bugs right now, it is adding to my frustration with the game. Toddlers are unplayable. Parts of Sulani are unplayable. Mermaid genetics are not working etc.

Heh, I guess I'm not much of a Season enthusiast. I don't recall most of those things and of the things I recall the only thing I remember using was the dating service. But as I said that's not a snub against Sims 3, I basically only "use" Seasons in Sims 4 as "Wear skimpy clothing when it's warm" and "never ever ever go out if it's cold". I have built one (1) snowman since Seasons came out, never used Patchy, haven't even considered playing the florist career...

"keekee53;c-17152876" wrote:

"simfriend1968;c-17152864" wrote:
Well babajayne, luckily for you, you can still play TS3. It is still available, the store is still operational, and modders are still modding that game. Personally, speaking as someone who has played all the sims games as they were released, I found TS3 to be the most frustrating, unstable and buggy of the games -- absolutely unplayable without mods. I still played it and enjoyed it while it ran, thanks to Twallan and his excellent mods, but I very much appreciate how stable and bug-free my TS4 game is in comparison. And I loved TS4 Seasons as it was (it is still my favourite pack), in part because it included some elements not in TS3: flower-arranging, customizable holidays and a calendar, a revamped (and greatly improved) gardening system, a new gardening career, family tree decorating and carol-singing, grand meals, more customizable decorations for houses, beekeeping, the kiddie pool, and Patchy.

I don’t think the point of the post was going back to play Sims 3. The post was to show a comparison of content.

I disagree with Sims 4 being bug free because there are so many bugs right now, it is adding to my frustration with the game. Toddlers are unplayable. Parts of Sulani are unplayable. Mermaid genetics are not working etc.

It was difficult for me to play TS3 at time, so I was just saying I didn't always enjoy all of those features listed given all the bugginess of the game (especially true for me of IP which caused nothing but lag on a very good computer). And I did mention (by way of comparison) a lot of unique features in TS4 Seasons which were not present in TS3 that I liked. As for the problems with your TS4 game, I am sorry. Do you perhaps have mods that are not updated yet, or maybe a faulty installation? Or have you tried repairing your game?

Since IL was released, I have literally played everywhere on Sulani, all three islands, as well as fishing (using the canoe) and swimming extensively, harvesting plants and exploring etc and have not found any part of this world to be unplayable. Toddlers are certainly not unplayable in my game: I mainly do family play and all my toddlers have worked as normal the whole way through, using high chairs and potties properly, learning and gaining skills and even aging up normally.

"simfriend1968;c-17152886" wrote:

"keekee53;c-17152876" wrote:

"simfriend1968;c-17152864" wrote:
Well babajayne, luckily for you, you can still play TS3. It is still available, the store is still operational, and modders are still modding that game. Personally, speaking as someone who has played all the sims games as they were released, I found TS3 to be the most frustrating, unstable and buggy of the games -- absolutely unplayable without mods. I still played it and enjoyed it while it ran, thanks to Twallan and his excellent mods, but I very much appreciate how stable and bug-free my TS4 game is in comparison. And I loved TS4 Seasons as it was (it is still my favourite pack), in part because it included some elements not in TS3: flower-arranging, customizable holidays and a calendar, a revamped (and greatly improved) gardening system, a new gardening career, family tree decorating and carol-singing, grand meals, more customizable decorations for houses, beekeeping, the kiddie pool, and Patchy.

I don’t think the point of the post was going back to play Sims 3. The post was to show a comparison of content.

I disagree with Sims 4 being bug free because there are so many bugs right now, it is adding to my frustration with the game. Toddlers are unplayable. Parts of Sulani are unplayable. Mermaid genetics are not working etc.

It was difficult for me to play TS3 at time, so I was just saying I didn't always enjoy all of those features listed given all the bugginess of the game (especially true for me of IP which caused nothing but lag on a very good computer). And I did mention (by way of comparison) a lot of unique features in TS4 Seasons which were not present in TS3 that I liked. As for the problems with your TS4 game, I am sorry. Do you perhaps have mods that are not updated yet, or maybe a faulty installation? Or have you tried repairing your game?

Since IL was released, I have literally played everywhere on Sulani, all three islands, as well as fishing (using the canoe) and swimming extensively, harvesting plants and exploring etc and have not found any part of this world to be unplayable. Toddlers are certainly not unplayable in my game: I mainly do family play and all my toddlers have worked as normal the whole way through, using high chairs and potties properly, learning and gaining skills and even aging up normally.

Disclaimer: The whole "I don't have bugs so they don't exist" is something I don't subscribe to.
BUT that said, I have had zero bugs (Forgot one bug that I filed that I don't recall anyone else talking about: My sims can't eat at one-square sized tables after IL came out. They finish their meals standing before sitting down. NO issues with 2 square or longer tables though) in Sulani yet. One reason might be my computer, it's a very old gaming laptop, which means it still can play Sims 4 on ultra super settings, BUT at the same time now have 5 year old tech that is very well tested and stable and all drivers work without a hitch for. I am sure that helps A LOT.

I second the notion about Sims 3 though; loading times, when you had them, were AWFUL, and again, open world is only open as long as you are in that (large but finite) world. Yes I could, and almost always did, jog home from the Criminal Hideout (tm) to the coastal villa in Sunset Valley, it was super handy. But over all it was far buggier than Sims 4 (or Sims 2) for me too.