TS4 Just Acting EP?

"Hermitgirl;c-16786576" wrote:
I would rather they have a deeper focus on less things than a superficial focus on a wide variety of things personally. I didn't play Sims 3 past the first game. I looked up let's plays today on the acting career or the film career. There is little to nothing there. What there is revolves around someone usually doing their house, going to a rabbithole career, placing some studio? lot somewhere that they can again rabbithole into?, being famous and gaining more fame from interacting with others. Oh and skilling to advance. I remember hearing I gotta do this often. It was weird to me how few videos were uploaded about it frankly.
I'm sure some might have built grand stories or had grand gameplay around all that but I don't see how I could (I will concede partly because I disliked the game from the start and could never get past that).

What I see coming for acting here in Sims 4 through trailers, what's been said by gurus and some statements from Sims Camp and some assumptions is this...
I can have a sim go into an active acting career lot, have a lively set around them with directors, makeup artists and other jobs I'm not sure of. They can get ready for a scene involving hair and makeup, they can be in multiple scenes with different genres (still waiting to see how that plays out). They have a perk system that someone at sim camp said is like the vampire system. They have a separate fame and reputation system with at least one assurance that they learned lessons from the past by the sim gurus (so to me that means options or at least not overkill still gotta wait on that), they have bodyguards or can, they have fans that look to have multiple reactions and autograph signing, there is a walk of fame and the getting of an award pictured in the trailer (not sure how it works yet but it does look good).
On top of that of course we have a new world, the ability to apply the fame and reputation system widely (but not to be worried about it) learned today you can get famous by giving money away for instance, a money vault that you can play with (gameplay object?), and of course the build buy/CAS that is almost always impressive to me.
I'm sure there is even more...
Either way though if it's this focused I as a storyteller/player am looking forward to this with bells on. It will give me way more stories to tell.

Sold! ?

"marcel21;c-16773986" wrote:

"Eliharb;c-16773983" wrote:

"marcel21;c-16773976" wrote:


well it looks like its going to be one of the smallest expansions ever, if its only big features are fame and acting.

this game as a game pack would be great but as a expansion pack, just seems far too small.

if they are adding more to the older careers, we already have a celebrity chef

I don't think it will be small. There's a world included so I'm hoping it's a big one.

you misunderstood me, I said it seems small.

I Mean small on game play

It adds one career (acting) but any career has a path to fame. Entertainers will actually have some purpose now that they can actually become famous. You could have a JK Rowling or Stephen King pumping out books, or Gordon Ramsey in the kitchen complete with Shout Forbidden Words. Yes, we've had "celebrity chef" and "celebrity mixologist" but till now they've just been titles -- now they can actually be celebrities. In one of @SimGuruKate Tweets she mentioned both a Fame system and a Reputation system -- that's the sort of "under the hood" programming that doesn't show up in a trailer but could have a big impact on gameplay,

We haven't even seen any of the objects or CASsets yet -- that might come next week with SimsCamp being over and the embargo lifted on the Campers on Monday. I think the livestreams are also starting next week focusing on different aspects of the pack. I think it's way too soon to judge whether this pack is "too small" to be an EP.

"MidnightAura;c-16774920" wrote:
Didn’t telemetry show that people didn’t play with the rocket ship, the observatory and the motion gaming mat? But yet we got a whole festival dedicated to them in City living.

I've put rocket ships and observatories on community lots -- my Art and Science Museum in Newcrest has both the rocket ship and the observatory -- in one save I created a Sim with full Rocket Science Skill and had him build the rocket and do all the upgrades, freezing his needs, then I deleted him and started playing the save with my own Sims. The observatories I place on the large park lots; if you've got a Sim just starting out, s/he can pick up extra Simoleons by selling the space prints it produces, or you can save a couple since they do have a Focused aura which is good for child/teen Sims when they have homework.

"somethingstellar;c-16786218" wrote:
I guarantee they are waiting to do an entirely separate gamepack or stuffpack entirely for musicians to milk more money from the concept than they did before. They're adding the ability to form bands and stuff via patch so i guess getting famous performing will have to do for now. The EP is just about getting the fame mechanism in to the game really.

I could see bands being part of a University pack since many of the features of past Uni packs, like cafes and bowling, are already in the game as DLC. Then if you have Get Famous you could have your college band hit the Big Time.

"Sk8rblaze;c-16785745" wrote:

"rudy8292;c-16785654" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16784974" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16784534" wrote:
I think most people will get answers to how it works and things added as long as they watch the 11/2 Live Stream that explains how Fame and Reputation works - and how they applied it to packs you already have.

I feel like more of this should have been shown in the reveal trailer itself.

It focused entirely on the acting career, and then we are getting Tweets saying that the pack is actually about fame itself amongst all of the careers. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Yes, because they are selling a system and one career.

Not much left to show. What you see is what you get.

If this pack was ''packed with content'' and tons of new stuff (not fluff (chairs and tables) but actual gameplay content) they would have shown it in the initial reveal trailer.

Even so, we haven’t really seen much of that system at all — or how it impacts other jobs/careers, which is what a guru said is a huge part of the pack. The “trailer” was pretty much just showing off acting content and crazed paparazzi.

I like the idea of a fame EP, but don’t forget we got it in TS3 along with an entire open city, penthouses, dance clubs, apartments, bands, bars, vampires, butlers, and a whole bunch of other content. If you’re going to separate a concept like fame into its own expansion pack, I would hope it would be crammed with content, and not just a career.

agreed. late night was packed with features.
we also got acting/directing
band forming, including piano, drums and base items as well as fame.

"Dannydanbo;c-16785918" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16785745" wrote:

"rudy8292;c-16785654" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16784974" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16784534" wrote:
I think most people will get answers to how it works and things added as long as they watch the 11/2 Live Stream that explains how Fame and Reputation works - and how they applied it to packs you already have.

I feel like more of this should have been shown in the reveal trailer itself.

It focused entirely on the acting career, and then we are getting Tweets saying that the pack is actually about fame itself amongst all of the careers. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Yes, because they are selling a system and one career.

Not much left to show. What you see is what you get.

If this pack was ''packed with content'' and tons of new stuff (not fluff (chairs and tables) but actual gameplay content) they would have shown it in the initial reveal trailer.

Even so, we haven’t really seen much of that system at all — or how it impacts other jobs/careers, which is what a guru said is a huge part of the pack. The “trailer” was pretty much just showing off acting content and crazed paparazzi.

I like the idea of a fame EP, but don’t forget we got it in TS3 along with an entire open city, penthouses, dance clubs, apartments, bands, bars, vampires, butlers, and a whole bunch of other content. If you’re going to separate a concept like fame into its own expansion pack, I would hope it would be crammed with content, and not just a career.

I think you're a little confused. You seem to have combined two packs into one post.

S3 Late Night gave us dance clubs (S4=Get Together)
vampires (S4=Vampires)
paparazzi (S4=Get Famous)
apartments/penthouses and only one per giant building (S4=City Living)
bars (I'm guessing you mean private bars with a bouncer, S4=Get Famous)
butlers (S4=Vintage Glamour)
one career, Film (S4=Get Famous)
bands (did not come in the fame pack/Showtime).

S3 Showtime gave us three careers, acrobat, magician, singer (S4=music career/Base Game, singing skill, busking/City Living)
DJ Booth (S4=Get Together)
karaoke machine (S4=City Living)
stages (not yet)
Simport (I hope this mistake is never repeated.)
The rest is FLUFF like tables and chairs.

Showtime, the S3 pack that gave us the ability to become a celebrity, didn't give us dance clubs or penthouses/apartments or bands or vampires or butlers or other stuff you and others seem to think came in a pack about fame (Showtime).

All that seems to be lacking is bands and stages which I have no doubt we will get but I hope in a Hobbies pack or a pack of their own.

no I think you are. that late night features listed

"Dannydanbo;c-16785918" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16785745" wrote:

"rudy8292;c-16785654" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16784974" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16784534" wrote:
I think most people will get answers to how it works and things added as long as they watch the 11/2 Live Stream that explains how Fame and Reputation works - and how they applied it to packs you already have.

I feel like more of this should have been shown in the reveal trailer itself.

It focused entirely on the acting career, and then we are getting Tweets saying that the pack is actually about fame itself amongst all of the careers. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Yes, because they are selling a system and one career.

Not much left to show. What you see is what you get.

If this pack was ''packed with content'' and tons of new stuff (not fluff (chairs and tables) but actual gameplay content) they would have shown it in the initial reveal trailer.

Even so, we haven’t really seen much of that system at all — or how it impacts other jobs/careers, which is what a guru said is a huge part of the pack. The “trailer” was pretty much just showing off acting content and crazed paparazzi.

I like the idea of a fame EP, but don’t forget we got it in TS3 along with an entire open city, penthouses, dance clubs, apartments, bands, bars, vampires, butlers, and a whole bunch of other content. If you’re going to separate a concept like fame into its own expansion pack, I would hope it would be crammed with content, and not just a career.

I think you're a little confused. You seem to have combined two packs into one post.

S3 Late Night gave us dance clubs (S4=Get Together)
vampires (S4=Vampires)
paparazzi (S4=Get Famous)
apartments/penthouses and only one per giant building (S4=City Living)
bars (I'm guessing you mean private bars with a bouncer, S4=Get Famous)
butlers (S4=Vintage Glamour)
one career, Film (S4=Get Famous)
bands (did not come in the fame pack/Showtime).

S3 Showtime gave us three careers, acrobat, magician, singer (S4=music career/Base Game, singing skill, busking/City Living)
DJ Booth (S4=Get Together)
karaoke machine (S4=City Living)
stages (not yet)
Simport (I hope this mistake is never repeated.)
The rest is FLUFF like tables and chairs.

Showtime, the S3 pack that gave us the ability to become a celebrity, didn't give us dance clubs or penthouses/apartments or bands or vampires or butlers or other stuff you and others seem to think came in a pack about fame (Showtime).

All that seems to be lacking is bands and stages which I have no doubt we will get but I hope in a Hobbies pack or a pack of their own.

no it was one pack. it was late night features in SK8RBLAZE post!

"Dannydanbo;c-16785918" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16785745" wrote:

"rudy8292;c-16785654" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-16784974" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16784534" wrote:
I think most people will get answers to how it works and things added as long as they watch the 11/2 Live Stream that explains how Fame and Reputation works - and how they applied it to packs you already have.

I feel like more of this should have been shown in the reveal trailer itself.

It focused entirely on the acting career, and then we are getting Tweets saying that the pack is actually about fame itself amongst all of the careers. Doesn’t make much sense to me.

Yes, because they are selling a system and one career.

Not much left to show. What you see is what you get.

If this pack was ''packed with content'' and tons of new stuff (not fluff (chairs and tables) but actual gameplay content) they would have shown it in the initial reveal trailer.

Even so, we haven’t really seen much of that system at all — or how it impacts other jobs/careers, which is what a guru said is a huge part of the pack. The “trailer” was pretty much just showing off acting content and crazed paparazzi.

I like the idea of a fame EP, but don’t forget we got it in TS3 along with an entire open city, penthouses, dance clubs, apartments, bands, bars, vampires, butlers, and a whole bunch of other content. If you’re going to separate a concept like fame into its own expansion pack, I would hope it would be crammed with content, and not just a career.

I think you're a little confused. You seem to have combined two packs into one post.

S3 Late Night gave us dance clubs (S4=Get Together)
vampires (S4=Vampires)
paparazzi (S4=Get Famous)
apartments/penthouses and only one per giant building (S4=City Living)
bars (I'm guessing you mean private bars with a bouncer, S4=Get Famous)
butlers (S4=Vintage Glamour)
one career, Film (S4=Get Famous)
bands (did not come in the fame pack/Showtime).

S3 Showtime gave us three careers, acrobat, magician, singer (S4=music career/Base Game, singing skill, busking/City Living)
DJ Booth (S4=Get Together)
karaoke machine (S4=City Living)
stages (not yet)
Simport (I hope this mistake is never repeated.)
The rest is FLUFF like tables and chairs.

Showtime, the S3 pack that gave us the ability to become a celebrity, didn't give us dance clubs or penthouses/apartments or bands or vampires or butlers or other stuff you and others seem to think came in a pack about fame (Showtime).

All that seems to be lacking is bands and stages which I have no doubt we will get but I hope in a Hobbies pack or a pack of their own.

and we got all that in one pack in the sims 3, but multiple packs with the sims 4, that figures.

"luthienrising;c-16785942" wrote:
I'm really not sure why people think we've seen everything that's in this pack. We've had one video, and one post-launch blog post. There's weeks of livestreams scheduled, and there's sure to be weeks of more videos and more blog posts.

They have added some dates haven't they for each part of the pack?

acting/directing
fame
new world

the guru already said we are only getting acting and fame for the other career. to
with that information it seems those are the main features of this pack.

"bixters;c-16785944" wrote:

"Dannydanbo;c-16785918" wrote:


I think you're a little confused. You seem to have combined two packs into one post.

S3 Late Night gave us dance clubs (S4=Get Together)
vampires (S4=Vampires)
paparazzi (S4=Get Famous)
apartments/penthouses and only one per giant building (S4=City Living)
bars (I'm guessing you mean private bars with a bouncer, S4=Get Famous)
butlers (S4=Vintage Glamour)
one career, Film (S4=Get Famous)
bands (did not come in the fame pack/Showtime).

S3 Showtime gave us three careers, acrobat, magician, singer (S4=music career/Base Game, singing skill, busking/City Living)
DJ Booth (S4=Get Together)
karaoke machine (S4=City Living)
stages (not yet)
Simport (I hope this mistake is never repeated.)
The rest is FLUFF like tables and chairs.

Showtime, the S3 pack that gave us the ability to become a celebrity, didn't give us dance clubs or penthouses/apartments or bands or vampires or butlers or other stuff you and others seem to think came in a pack about fame (Showtime).

All that seems to be lacking is bands and stages which I have no doubt we will get but I hope in a Hobbies pack or a pack of their own.

All the information you quote is accurate. However, the problem is how much it costs for all the content. For all the content listed from the Sims 3 Late Night & Showtime, it costs $60, $30 for each EP. In the Sims 4, it costs a grand total of $150 for 3 EPs, 1 GP and 1 SP. That's more than double the amount of money we paid in the past for the same amount of content. Does that seem right to you??

I agree with you

"somethingstellar;c-16786218" wrote:
I guarantee they are waiting to do an entirely separate gamepack or stuffpack entirely for musicians to milk more money from the concept than they did before. They're adding the ability to form bands and stuff via patch so i guess getting famous performing will have to do for now. The EP is just about getting the fame mechanism in to the game really.

oh, I agree, milking is what the sims 4 does best :p