I found two unique references to bellhops in Snowy Escape build/buy text. The first, the Scandalous Snow Dreams Nightstand, can be found in the standard buy catalog and references a bellhop. The second, found either via a Simi Vending machine or in buy debug is a bellhop Simi. Screenshots of both can be found at the bottom of this post. In the past, I've found most speculative text and hints to be quite open to interpretation. But in this case, a bellhop has a very clear definition and a very clear association with hospitality. The fact that they are referenced twice in Snowy Escape does not seem like a coincidence to me. Of course, it could be, but given past surveys, the new ability to vacation to any world, and general player demand, I think these references paint a clear picture. I certainly do think hotels/resorts are coming in 2021, how they arrive is the real topic for speculation in my opinion. I'd imagine they could arrive in game pack in early February, alongside a romance overhaul (another frequent player request), just in time for Valentines day. This could give the team a fun chance to include items like the Vibrating Heart-Shaped bed that would fit well with both themes. Strangerville arrived on Feb 26, 2019. If they were to keep a somewhat similar release schedule, moving the date up by just two weeks, such a pack could release on Feb 11, three days before Valentines day. At any rate, I would love for hotels/resorts to arrive in a GP without a new world. I'd much rather have a thorough and exciting hotel experience that caters to those wishing to run a hotel and those wishing to stay at one, instead of a so-so hotel experience that comes with a micro-world too small to create any real sense of community. What are your thoughts on all of this?https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50614683642_1aa7913416_c.jpg11-17-20_2-26-05 PM by Sappy Sifaka, on Flickrhttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50613830518_737c62a08f_c.jpg11-17-20_2-26-10 PM by Sappy Sifaka, on Flickr

Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size.

It's very interesting for sure. I do hope your right and I also wouldn't mind if they skipped out on a new world. I would appreciate if they added some ready to go hotel builds to our library though.

"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size. The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere.

"Sheepiling;c-17727424" wrote:"EliasVersace;c-17727390" wrote:Thanks for this, I was already starting to look for hints in the BB descriptions. I think this could indeed be hinting at a hotel GP and I think it could be coming in February/march too. My little theory is that the 'Run a Resort' option in January's survey came out on top and they decided to make it it's own pack because the theme is in such high demand. Hope that is the case and I also hope it'll come without a world! I tend to not use the GP neighborhoods because of their size. The quality of the GP is always better when they come without a world (or a super small, simple world like Vampires). The gameplay seems to be underdeveloped when they have to put part of the GPs budget into creating a really pretty world. Glimmerbrook and Batuu may be small, but they have a lot of detail in those worlds, which is part of the reason I think the gameplay is lacking compared to other game packs. The budget for a gamepack is sure to be smaller than the budget for an expansion pack, so if they put a lot of those funds into world creation and graphics, the pack suffers elsewhere. Very much agree, especially regarding Realm of Magic. I would have much rather had a few more gameplay objects/dynamics in place of Glimmerbrook/the Magic Realm. I'd even go a step further and say that I would have even preferred more general build/buy and CAS stuff instead of the world. I get that the vibe of the pack was heavily inspired by contemporary witches (i.e. The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) but they didn't even give us a classic witch/wizard hat. Still out here stuck with that goofy one with the spider hanging off the back from Spooky Stuff, unless you use CC. My hope is that a hotel pack without a world will be able to properly impress without any caveats or short cuts.

I found 1-2 texts about safety, robbery and romantic or something.. arent thiefs still missing? The new toddler outfit with the gymbag got farm animals on them.. Farming hint?

Two Clear Hints at Hotels Found in Snowy Escape

SMAN292
4 years ago
Hotels are nice and all. But I don't know! I mean the last thing the game needs right now is another temporary place for our sims to stay in.
timurjr96
4 years ago
I'm just saying if they want to do it, it can be easily(subjective) done with dine out framework. though the mess that is dine out can be blamed for the sims ai themselves who love to gravitate to strangers to talk, this issue can even be seen in get together cafe where you 'reserve' a seat for your friend to sit on a table with you but a stranger sit on it just to talk to you.

I wont even blame EA for the mess in Sims 4 anymore as the latest issues can be seen it came from the Maxis itself. (JtB pack)
Bookish_Sammy
4 years ago
Hotels could add more pool items and would be realistic to put in Sulani.

Pool items, casino stuff, breakfast item buffet, would all be good to add.

The breakfast buffet is cool, but I think I'd prefer a buffet that can be set for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and dinner. I grew up in Las Vegas, so I associate buffets with breakfast, lunch, brunch, and dinner :blush: My family used to go to a brunch buffet sometimes. You could get prime rib and eggs benedict. Plus, there were bottomless mimosas and champagne. The most popular buffet was seafood with all you can eat crab legs.

I would love to see the return of the swim up bar from Sims 3. The hotel my mom used to work for had a water slide and waterfall. I've also seen swim up poker and black jack tables. We already have Spa Day and Dine Out, but a lot of fancy hotels have spas and fine dining. Las Vegas has night clubs in some of their hotels. MGM used to have a small theme park, but they got rid of it when I was a teenager. I guess I'm thinking of hotel resorts instead of the standard hotel (Holiday Inn, Days Inn, etc.).
SheriSim
Seasoned Hotshot
4 years ago
"bookish_sammy;c-17763403" wrote:
Hotels could add more pool items and would be realistic to put in Sulani.

Pool items, casino stuff, breakfast item buffet, would all be good to add.

The breakfast buffet is cool, but I think I'd prefer a buffet that can be set for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and dinner. I grew up in Las Vegas, so I associate buffets with breakfast, lunch, brunch, and dinner :blush: My family used to go to a brunch buffet sometimes. You could get prime rib and eggs benedict. Plus, there were bottomless mimosas and champagne. The most popular buffet was seafood with all you can eat crab legs.

I would love to see the return of the swim up bar from Sims 3. The hotel my mom used to work for had a water slide and waterfall. I've also seen swim up poker and black jack tables. We already have Spa Day and Dine Out, but a lot of fancy hotels have spas and fine dining. Las Vegas has night clubs in some of their hotels. MGM used to have a small theme park, but they got rid of it when I was a teenager. I guess I'm thinking of hotel resorts instead of the standard hotel (Holiday Inn, Days Inn, etc.).

That would be nice to be able too set the buffet table for various times of day. I just figured since we already got one buffet table in luxury stuff, they might not want to do something too similar. And many hotels have morning buffets.

Yes I remember one buffet that had seafood years ago. My husband loved the crab legs. We took our kids to the theme park at the MGM, I actually liked it, it wasn’t crowded. And Kenny Rogers chicken place was so good, I loved the little shops.. I think a swim up bar would be great too. I really want stuff to make a hotel casino.
catloverplayer
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
"sunman502;c-17765781" wrote:
"SheriSim57;c-17764564" wrote:
"bookish_sammy;c-17763403" wrote:
Hotels could add more pool items and would be realistic to put in Sulani.

Pool items, casino stuff, breakfast item buffet, would all be good to add.

The breakfast buffet is cool, but I think I'd prefer a buffet that can be set for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and dinner. I grew up in Las Vegas, so I associate buffets with breakfast, lunch, brunch, and dinner :blush: My family used to go to a brunch buffet sometimes. You could get prime rib and eggs benedict. Plus, there were bottomless mimosas and champagne. The most popular buffet was seafood with all you can eat crab legs.

I would love to see the return of the swim up bar from Sims 3. The hotel my mom used to work for had a water slide and waterfall. I've also seen swim up poker and black jack tables. We already have Spa Day and Dine Out, but a lot of fancy hotels have spas and fine dining. Las Vegas has night clubs in some of their hotels. MGM used to have a small theme park, but they got rid of it when I was a teenager. I guess I'm thinking of hotel resorts instead of the standard hotel (Holiday Inn, Days Inn, etc.).

That would be nice to be able too set the buffet table for various times of day. I just figured since we already got one buffet table in luxury stuff, they might not want to do something too similar. And many hotels have morning buffets.

Yes I remember one buffet that had seafood years ago. My husband loved the crab legs. We took our kids to the theme park at the MGM, I actually liked it, it wasn’t crowded. And Kenny Rogers chicken place was so good, I loved the little shops.. I think a swim up bar would be great too. I really want stuff to make a hotel casino.

I miss the swim up bars from Sims 3 too.

Swimming pools are still missing a lot. I'm hoping if we get Resorts pools will get more attention but I'd rather we get a Pool Stuffpack so they get 100% focused on. I still can't believe there are no poolslides and pool waterfalls.
Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
We are getting Haunted Houses as a House Type in a Stuff Pack - just like we got Tiny Houses. So I think that's how we could get Hotels - we build a Hotel, and the Townies come in and out of our Torture Palace.

Because you know that's what people will build.

And that would mean that Casinos would come in a separate pack.
Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
I think Tiny Living Stuff and Paranormal Stuff are a hint at how Hotels and Casinos will be introduced.
SMAN292
4 years ago
"catloverplayer;c-17786174" wrote:
"sunman502;c-17778853" wrote:
"catloverplayer;c-17778839" wrote:
"Loanet;c-17778212" wrote:
We are getting Haunted Houses as a House Type in a Stuff Pack - just like we got Tiny Houses. So I think that's how we could get Hotels - we build a Hotel, and the Townies come in and out of our Torture Palace.

Because you know that's what people will build.

And that would mean that Casinos would come in a separate pack.

Trouble is to make hotels haunted you'd need to use the spooky lot trait.

I'm pretty sure that this can be done with just the haunted lot trait. I believe that SimGuruConer said to use both haunted and spooky lot trait for a better chance to get the haunted effect.
The pool slides and waterfalls were cool too.

Spooky Lot Trait is the new name for Haunted Lot Trait. The name was Changed to Spooky in the Update. We can't apply the haunted lot type to hotels so we'll have to use the haunted lot trait.

Yeah, I know. The Gurus themselves have said that they had changed the name of that lot trait to avoid confusion which makes sense.
Loanet
Rising Scout
4 years ago
"sunman502;c-17795647" wrote:
"Loanet;c-17795641" wrote:
I'd say that Paranormal is a sign of how Sims 4 is planning to do these other kinds of lots. They gave you an option to change a lot into a 'Haunted House Residential'. This is a way that future packs can change it into a 'Hotel' lot for a different kind of game.

Or like I was saying, Paranormal might be a gateway to having haunted lots that are non-residential lots.

It's a nice idea, but they are only a Stuff Pack team.
catloverplayer
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
"Loanet;c-17795641" wrote:
I'd say that Paranormal is a sign of how Sims 4 is planning to do these other kinds of lots. They gave you an option to change a lot into a 'Haunted House Residential'. This is a way that future packs can change it into a 'Hotel' lot for a different kind of game.

One easy way would be to add a haunted community lot type for all community lots. This also includes generic lots. I've mentioned this to the gurus on Twitter.