Unpopular opinions?

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> So much repetition in this thread. Here's mine: Sims 4 allows for more genuine creativity. When presented with every possible tool imaginable, like the color wheel and constrainfloorelevation, it's extremely easy to make ANYTHING, and to get lost in building something exactly as you imagined it. In Sims 4, there's much more room for creative work-arounds. No platforms/friezes? Enlarge the fountain slab from Spa Day. No ladders? Use shelves. No bunkbeds? Raise up a bed and use pillars to make it look connected. No color wheel? You'll have to work harder at making furniture match, many times creating a color scheme you wouldn't have thought of in Sims 3.
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> I'm a builder exclusively so I don't care if my builds are playable, but a lot of the time they are. Sims can use beds that are raised up. They can use hot tubs that are sunken into a foundation. Sims 4 challenges me to find new ways of making real-world features without simply having it handed to me if that makes sense.
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> "Genuine" creativity? Gimme fake creativity any time then.

I suppose I just mean that, with more restrictions in Sims 4, it forces the player to come up with ways around those restrictions.

"SamFlamingo;c-16696868" wrote:
> @JoAnne65 said:
> SamFlamingo wrote: »
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> So much repetition in this thread. Here's mine: Sims 4 allows for more genuine creativity. When presented with every possible tool imaginable, like the color wheel and constrainfloorelevation, it's extremely easy to make ANYTHING, and to get lost in building something exactly as you imagined it. In Sims 4, there's much more room for creative work-arounds. No platforms/friezes? Enlarge the fountain slab from Spa Day. No ladders? Use shelves. No bunkbeds? Raise up a bed and use pillars to make it look connected. No color wheel? You'll have to work harder at making furniture match, many times creating a color scheme you wouldn't have thought of in Sims 3.
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> I'm a builder exclusively so I don't care if my builds are playable, but a lot of the time they are. Sims can use beds that are raised up. They can use hot tubs that are sunken into a foundation. Sims 4 challenges me to find new ways of making real-world features without simply having it handed to me if that makes sense.
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> "Genuine" creativity? Gimme fake creativity any time then.

I suppose I just mean that, with more restrictions in Sims 4, it forces the player to come up with ways around those restrictions.

Fair enough, but I wouldn't call that more genuine? For me it defines the difference between going to Ikea and use whatever is available to decorate your house (Sims 4), which indeed also appeals to your creativity, and being a designer yourself (Sims 3/CASt). It's different for sure, but again, I don't quite follow the adjective genuine here.

ETA: I often hear quite the opposite by the way: building in Sims 4 is so much more easy. And being able to play the game is very important to me. Can sims climb those shelves or into a bed on pillars?

I build a LOT. I got bored with the simple "ikea" design quickly, so I want to, for example, take the pieces of ikea furniture, throw out the instructions, and build something completely new with it. Something that it wasn't necessarily designed for. Again, I only build houses to look cool, not to be playable, so to me it doesn't matter if a feature I make is useable. To each their own.

By "genuine" I guess I mean "more challenging" - not to actually build something, because obviously things are much easier to build in Sims 4 - but to build something NEW. I loved Sims 3, but to me they're very different games in terms of building. In Sims 3, building is like an architecture project. You have all the tools you need to make something interesting, just like in architecture. In Sims 4, it's more like a puzzle - figuring out all the different ways I can use the limited tools to make something interesting, something others might've never thought of before.

Again, this thread is unpopular opinions, so I know this isn't a popular idea. Like you said, most people would say it's much easier to build in the Sims 4. I'd agree, but I'd say also that it's much harder to build something interesting and new.

@SamFlamingo I completely agree with you. While TS2 was amazing, TS3 was garbage save for Open World and some other features. TS4 isn't perfect but it's clearly an homage to TS2 and on it's way to becoming as great as it. It forces me to be more creative too, I never liked the color wheel because I would just end up makimg everything the same to match. I'm more of an interior designer than an architect/builder, and with TS4 I've learned to mix and match styles without clashing and use different colors that complement each other. It has a lot of haters but TS4 is one of the best iterations imo. I just wish people would stop feeling the need to attack anyone who prefers it.

I don't care if babies are stuck living in their bassinets. I've never liked playing with them or toddlers/children anyways and only have children in the game so I can continue without making a new household.
Building in the apartments in City Living is fun for me and I don't care that you can't make your own. I enjoy the challenge of building something new within the confines of the existing space.
I don't want open world, like at all. I've been playing TS3 a bit lately and travelling across town to everything is annoying and makes the Sim's day seem so much shorter since you spend so much time getting from place to place.
I like stuff packs and have enjoyed most of them so far. Even My First Pet Stuff.
I never wanted laundry in the game. I don't need more chores. Most of the time when I'm playing The Sims I'm avoiding them in real life, so you can bet I don't want to do it fer funsies in the game. I still bought Laundry Day Stuff because there were some great items in that pack, but I rarely place a washer/dryer so laundry doesn't spawn.
I don't like Bob Pancakes.

"chozobo;c-16660940" wrote:
Cats and Dogs is trash.
The Townies walking through the neightbourhoods are obnoxious and it feels so forced.
I hate the walking styles.
Windenburg feels like it's forced european style. What even is it supposed to represent? Bavarian architecture? I live in Bavaria and it looks way different.
Magnolia Promenade is useless.

Please don't ban me EA

You're not going to be banned just for an opinion. Just want to say that I like Magnolia Promenade because it's my entertainment district; I have a bar, a lounge, a nightclub and I just added a karaoke bar. I like to send my Sims there not on a formal "date" but just to go out and have some fun, or for my entertainers a place to hone their skills in music or comedy. That helps free up space in the rest of the worlds for different venues or for houses. I know that theoretically you only need one of each type of venue, but I like having a little bit of variety.

"sleekoduck87;c-16685778" wrote:
1. Bella Goth is the most boring Sim in the entire game. She was more interesting in TS2 when she was gone and unplayable. All she ever does in my game is bake rice crispy treats and watch soapies.

2. Seasons, I like. Holidays can go to P L U M B B O B. Talk Like a Pirate Day is dumb as plumbbob. Lottery Day is stupid. At least with the major holidays, you can change them or turn them off. Those other ones just pop up out of nowhere. If I could turn them off, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

3. I liked UNI in TS2. I hope a UNI pack comes out soon.

I think you can delete them as soon as they pop up on the day and they never come back -- I did that with Neighborhood Brawl day because one of my Sims fought with his wife and even if it's supposedly "good fun" play fighting it was a major trigger; I've known victims of domestic violence. If they'd programmed it to exempt family members I would have been okay with it. So if you click the X as soon as the holiday starts I think it gets rid of it. (I like all the changed interactions on Talk Like A Pirate Day, like Use the Head when you select the toilet or or Heave Ho for Woohoo.)

Here goes:

• I don't like Toddlers. I wish they had never been added.
  
• I'm happy we don't have open world. I never played TS3 but it seems like it would cause major lag.
  
• I don't want cars.
  
• Laundry... ugh... I hate doing it in real life so definitely don't want to waste my time with it in game.
  
• I love supernaturals and really hope we get witches and magic. Making Magic was one of my fave expansion packs for TS2. I can live without werewolves and don't want zombies though.
  
• I love the graphics style of TS4 and how the Sims look. Its hard to say which is better, TS2 or TS4. TS3 was rubbish.
  

"ImSands;c-16698190" wrote:
Here goes:

• I don't like Toddlers. I wish they had never been added.
  
• I'm happy we don't have open world. I never played TS3 but it seems like it would cause major lag.
  
• I don't want cars.
  
• Laundry... ugh... I hate doing it in real life so definitely don't want to waste my time with it in game.
  
• I love supernaturals and really hope we get witches and magic. Making Magic was one of my fave expansion packs for TS2. I can live without werewolves and don't want zombies though.
  
• I love the graphics style of TS4 and how the Sims look. Its hard to say which is better, TS2 or TS4. TS3 was rubbish.
  

Makin Magic was not in Sims 2. That was only in Sims 1.

Open world if you have a great gaming DESKTOP is amazing - believe me - it still is. I never have issues with the open world in Sims 3.

I really can't understand how anyone can hate toddlers. I just can't.

"SamFlamingo;c-16696962" wrote:
I build a LOT. I got bored with the simple "ikea" design quickly, so I want to, for example, take the pieces of ikea furniture, throw out the instructions, and build something completely new with it. Something that it wasn't necessarily designed for. Again, I only build houses to look cool, not to be playable, so to me it doesn't matter if a feature I make is useable. To each their own.

By "genuine" I guess I mean "more challenging" - not to actually build something, because obviously things are much easier to build in Sims 4 - but to build something NEW. I loved Sims 3, but to me they're very different games in terms of building. In Sims 3, building is like an architecture project. You have all the tools you need to make something interesting, just like in architecture. In Sims 4, it's more like a puzzle - figuring out all the different ways I can use the limited tools to make something interesting, something others might've never thought of before.

Again, this thread is about unpopular opinions, so I know this isn't a popular idea. Like you said, most people would say it's much easier to build in the Sims 4. I'd agree, but I'd say also that it's much harder to build something interesting and new.

Indeed this thread is unpopular opinions. That’s not the same as unquestionable opinions though, or untouchable opinions. Quite often there are good reasons these opinions are unpopular and since this is a forum, they are open for debate, just like any other opinion shared here.

In this case I completely appreciate the opinion as such, I mean, that this is how it works for you (you explain the way you like building quite well and I can understand why for you personally there’s a challenge in this). I’m not questioning the opinion.

What I am questioning was the word genuine, which means authentic, real (and therefore suggests superiority). Not more challenging. You mention constrainfloorelevation. That’s a cheat, not a tool. And quite a challenging cheat at that, I’ve always needed tutorials to make it work. I’m not under the impressions Sims 4 has more work arounds than Sims 3 did, builders have managed to make the impossible possible with the game, using cheats. I also question the proposition you won’t come up with color schemes you wouldn’t have thought of when you have a colour wheel. In fact that happens to me all the time because I tend to throw my mouse around in order to be surprised by what happens when I do. Having a colour wheel doesn’t mean you only compose colours that you thought of in advance. It’s in fact one of the things I love about CASt, the surprises.