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It's not impossible. Their needs just need to get super low. So unless you have one of these super vamps who don't need nothing you can still complete it, otherwise you should maybe reskill them. I don't think this is intentional, but I hope this is a workaround for you, at least for the time being.
http://i.imgur.com/fSyddzn.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/fSyddzn.jpg
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Glad you pointed out a work around @Yoko2112 seems a pain in the butt to do but there is that. It's also hard to complete if you have the never weary trait. (I use to have a sim that completed the music aspirations put sims to sleep with the lullaby.. no clue if that works on vamps though) If you have a GTW career you won't get a ding if your still sleeping in the tent when the game whisks you off. (unless that's been patched or tweaked). ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-06-06T06:40:30.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-06-06T06:40:30.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":18},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:641932/message:641934","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"600","rawBody":"I wouldn't mind if this part of the aspiration were tweaked or even taken out and replaced by some other OR or herbalism pursuit.
Glad you pointed out a work around @Yoko2112 seems a pain in the butt to do but there is that. It's also hard to complete if you have the never weary trait. (I use to have a sim that completed the music aspirations put sims to sleep with the lullaby.. no clue if that works on vamps though) If you have a GTW career you won't get a ding if your still sleeping in the tent when the game whisks you off. (unless that's been patched or tweaked). ","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:641934_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:641935":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:641935","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:641935":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:88627"},"id":"message:641935","revisionNum":1,"uid":641935,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:641932"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:641932"},"subject":"Re: Vampires cannot complete Outdoor Retreat's Aspiration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:641935"},"body":"
\"To7m;c-15815253\" wrote: I literally just completed this aspiration with my vampire sim, i just made her go to bed at like 9-10pm as I would a normal sim and she woke up around 5-6-7am every morning in her own. They do this in beds too. It's only when you make them hibernate that they don't wake up until you tell them too.
I found it more difficult avoiding the sun, my poor sim had to sit in the cabin all day.
--T
That's weird, I just get the \"sleep\" option on my tents and my vamps don't come out unless their needs force them to. Do you have autonomy on ? And do you go to Granite Falls to do this ?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-06-06T07:42:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-06-06T07:42:47.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":3},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:641932/message:641935","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"670","rawBody":"
\"To7m;c-15815253\" wrote: I literally just completed this aspiration with my vampire sim, i just made her go to bed at like 9-10pm as I would a normal sim and she woke up around 5-6-7am every morning in her own. They do this in beds too. It's only when you make them hibernate that they don't wake up until you tell them too.
I found it more difficult avoiding the sun, my poor sim had to sit in the cabin all day.
--T
That's weird, I just get the \"sleep\" option on my tents and my vamps don't come out unless their needs force them to. Do you have autonomy on ? And do you go to Granite Falls to do this ?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:641935_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:641936":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:641936","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:641936":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:7069"},"id":"message:641936","revisionNum":1,"uid":641936,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:641932"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:641932"},"subject":"Re: Vampires cannot complete Outdoor Retreat's Aspiration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:641936"},"body":"
\"Yoko2112;c-15815349\" wrote: I literally just completed this aspiration with my vampire sim, i just made her go to bed at like 9-10pm as I would a normal sim and she woke up around 5-6-7am every morning in her own. They do this in beds too. It's only when you make them hibernate that they don't wake up until you tell them too.
I found it more difficult avoiding the sun, my poor sim had to sit in the cabin all day.
--T
For real. I mean I suspected they might come out if their moods dropped low, I just think it's a bit ridiculous to have to almost kill them to complete a not-so-great aspiration.
I'm sure it's an oversight. It seems like the design of waiting for the Sim to cancel their sleep is just a way to ensure players don't cheat the system by going in and out of the tent five times, it just doesn't work for vampires, who can sleep for centuries.
Maybe he had a vampire with a certain career though? I wouldn't be too surprised if a rogue career or two actually had them wake up. ","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2017-06-06T07:56:47.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-06-06T07:56:47.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":2},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:641932/message:641936","repliesCount":0,"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1088","rawBody":"
\"Yoko2112;c-15815349\" wrote: I literally just completed this aspiration with my vampire sim, i just made her go to bed at like 9-10pm as I would a normal sim and she woke up around 5-6-7am every morning in her own. They do this in beds too. It's only when you make them hibernate that they don't wake up until you tell them too.
I found it more difficult avoiding the sun, my poor sim had to sit in the cabin all day.
--T
For real. I mean I suspected they might come out if their moods dropped low, I just think it's a bit ridiculous to have to almost kill them to complete a not-so-great aspiration.
I'm sure it's an oversight. It seems like the design of waiting for the Sim to cancel their sleep is just a way to ensure players don't cheat the system by going in and out of the tent five times, it just doesn't work for vampires, who can sleep for centuries.
Maybe he had a vampire with a certain career though? I wouldn't be too surprised if a rogue career or two actually had them wake up. ","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:641936_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:86115":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:86115","uid":86115,"login":"willprot","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-11-03T18:19:23.115-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://forums.ea.com/t5/s/tghpe58374/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1721239591000"},"rank":null,"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:tghpe58374/user:86115"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:641937":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:641937","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:641937":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:86115"},"id":"message:641937","revisionNum":1,"uid":641937,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:641932"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:641932"},"subject":"Re: Vampires cannot complete Outdoor Retreat's Aspiration","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:641937"},"body":"I wanted to post a work around here for anyone who may be still experiencing problems as I was.
If you don't want to (or as in my case, can't easily) respec your vampire all you need to do is have another sim in the household do something that will wake up your sim.
I simply put a guitar next to the tent and had another sim play it in the morning. It wakes my vampire right up and counts as a self wake up. yea they may be cussing and spitting from the rude awakening but it will tick off one night.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2020-03-05T17:50:52.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2020-03-05T17:50:52.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":4},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:the-sims-4-en/category:the-sims-en/category:ea-forums-en/community:tghpe58374board:the-sims-4-general-discussion-en/message:641932/message:641937","repliesCount":0,"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"523","rawBody":"I wanted to post a work around here for anyone who may be still experiencing problems as I was.
If you don't want to (or as in my case, can't easily) respec your vampire all you need to do is have another sim in the household do something that will wake up your sim.
I simply put a guitar next to the tent and had another sim play it in the morning. 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