Werewolves pack - features when you don't play werewolves?

The werewolf world is perfectly usable but you will see werewolves in moonwood mill. You can change all lot types and build whatever you like. If you keep the bar lot type, other occults will also spawn when you visit the bar. In the world there are two werewolf hangout spots where werewolves will gather so you will see them. You can turn off werewolves for all other worlds so the pack is absolutely not intrusive. But moonwood mill is occult terrain.

You could set the moon phase to be permanent new moon or any other moon fase that is not full moon. That way you can avoid full moon werewolf rampages. Rampage due to temperaments can't be avoided. Perhaps you could cheat the temperaments on existing werewolves. You could give them the 4 positive blue temperament so they don't build fury. Carl has a mod that makes this easier if you don't like typing cheat codes.

I don't know any features outside off the werewolves that can be used. Perhaps the collectibles but I don't know how successful a non-werewolf is in collecting them. On the bright side there are no intrusive features to disrupt your game. The only other thing that came in the pack is a small telescope but that was patched into base game. I wish they would followed the same principle for the infant changing table.

Werewolves is totally unrelated to body hair. Body hair wasn't even in the game when werewolves was released. Body hair came with high school years and that's the pack that makes body hair grow. I have the werewolves pack but not high school years. New sims in CAS occasionally get body hair but it does not grow in live mode. Newly generated spellcasters in CAS get an insane amount of scars, so having to remove them in CAS is a small downside.

As for the comparison with growing together: the world is bigger but only the neighbourhood with the community centre has fishing spots, swimmable water and walking paths. The rest feels rather empty with very few walk by Sims. Moonwood mill feels more alive. On the gameplay side is growing together more intrusive with social chemistry, family dynamics, self discovery moments, midlife crisises and npc's inviting themselves over for sleepovers. I like it but it is one of those packs you will notice in regular gameplay. The only game mechanics you can turn off are self discovery moments and sims getting fired from work. Also infants are more difficult to play with growing together because they don't start with the ability to crawl and sit in a high chair like they do without the pack.

As for the comparison to vampires, I think they are very similar. You don't have to interact with the werewolves but they are there. You will notice werewolves a bit more in their own world but you can force them to act human in every other world.

For me I feel like no I wouldn't get this pack if I had no interest in playing occult/werewolves
or seeing them around

its pretty world but theres only 5 lots in it and theres not much to do besides werewolves and occult lore stuff

also there is rather many woodsy worlds in the game to pick from for non occult means so :sweat_smile:

the wolves can be little annoying on community lots since sims react to sims in wolf form

there is toggle to disable them turning wolf out of moonwood but its for out of moonwood

so yeah community lots in moonwood would still probably be chaotic

when on residential lot in moonwood its similar to the forgotten hollow in that you'll just probably see some walkby wolves going around the place similar to how caleb and lilith be always running around FH

I don't think sims be suddenly growing body hair or stuff like that tho

theres some build buy and cas that can be used for grunge purposes n such but not a whole lot

When I first bought The Werewolf pack, it was just for the world and I did not play as a werewolf. I also did not play as a teen. But the teen werewolf rag to riches challenges inspired me to stretch myself out of my comfort zone. Werewolves are the only occult I have played so far. The other occult world I still just use for the worlds. If I can buy them on sale, all worlds are worth it for me to buy even if I don't use the gameplay included.

Little by little, I keep stretching myself to start including bits of things from all the packs. I had no interest in the fame stuff and still am shy of it, but when I learned that Ward Park in Get Famous is a $0 lot when it is bulldozed, I was inspired to use all $0 building ideas to have a truly $0 lot. I am playing a rags to riches child alone on Del Sol Valley, and as I play here, NOT yet using any of the fame features, I can see how eventually I might want to start exploring the gameplay that was designed for this world that I am starting to love. But not yet. I am content to just use the world.

If you can afford it, I think you will enjoy importing your established gameplay into Moonwood Mills. You may or may not gradually choose to get sucked into some of the gameplay.

Visiting a world is not the same as living in it. I can see that now. I am doing the opposite of you. Moonwood Mill remains my default world to start, but I am stretching myself to start in other worlds.

In Moonwood Mills, I always set my moon cycle to 4 days, because if you swim in the lake on a full moon, your energy fills in a couple seconds, and you get a whole day without needing sleep. Those extra hours are a real bonus to work on skills and aspirations. I love using small lot near the lake to start. I move the starter house on it to the larger lot in the center of the town and improve it and add a garden.

Moonwood Mills is my favorite world. I visit it even when I am living in another world. I have the small residential lot near the lake set up as a campground, and visiting sims can use everything on the lot. I put the treehouse and a camping bathroom there. And the Jungle Adventures selling table that keeps food and fish cold.

Everyone complains about the gameplay in the Wedding Pack, but I use the WORLD not the gameplay and Tartosa is my second favorite world. I have another campground set up there. I bulldozed the house on the little island.

My goal is to live on every one of the lots in the these videos, and for now to build some sort of camping/homeless encampment on each one. There is a LOT of overlap in these videos. The first two videos are very short and just list the cheapest lots that were available in 2021. The last video is longer and is the "best" lots and includes Tartosa, Moonwood Mills and the Highschool pack. The last video includes my favorite Moonwood Mills lot almost at the end of the video, and also my favorite Highschool years lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpjK8JTtVHw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NOy6ZsfA32c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqLzuvrsGwo&t=2s

Yes, the Werewolves pack is worth it even if you don't play the werewolves.

Wow! Thanks for in depth comments and lots of gaming ideas! Loved reading them all, awesome!

I might have only residential lots in Moonwood Mills, but it sounds fun with one community camp ground lot. Even if I won't focus on the occult, at least not from the start, I might have a teen club visiting and exploring (based on the guy featured in my video below), and perhaps in the long run werewolves might get accepted in my game. I will have a Baron's manor there, maybe he should get bitten at some point, but that is not something I'll do right away. I simply need more lots for existing houses, and the world looks quite nice. I think it will fit well with my Crafthole region, basically built on mining, but there could of course be timber activity too. I wanted Copperfield for this, but I hesitate with all the Social Bunny and "be my friend" stuff, plus I hardly focus on teens anyway.

If you really like Moonwood Mill, it can be possible to play it without Werewolves. Also, I've actually learned not to long ago, that if you temperary make a Super Werewolf (that's a Werewolf with most of the powers), that sim can actually defeat permanently Greg. As for the Moonwood Townies, I'm not sure.
On another note, I do recommend the following woodsy Worlds that aren't locked with the Wolfies.
They are:
Henford (Cottage Living)
Glimmerbrook (Realm of Magic)

"SERVERFRA;c-18273833" wrote:
If you really like Moonwood Mill, it can be possible to play it without Werewolves. Also, I've actually learned not to long ago, that if you temperary make a Super Werewolf (that's a Werewolf with most of the powers), that sim can actually defeat permanently Greg. As for the Moonwood Townies, I'm not sure.
On another note, I do recommend the following woodsy Worlds that aren't locked with the Wolfies.
They are:
Henford (Cottage Living)
Glimmerbrook (Realm of Magic)

Thanks. I don't plan to ignore the werewolves totally. I might not play them actively, but it will be cool seeing them as a danger in this world. I will send sims there to camp, and hoping it will be a creepy vacation :)

I have also considered Magic Realm, but werewolves seem less annoying when not being played.
Do anyone know if there is a lifeline system for werewolves, as there is for spellcasters?

"Simmerville;c-18275164" wrote:

"SERVERFRA;c-18273833" wrote:
If you really like Moonwood Mill, it can be possible to play it without Werewolves. Also, I've actually learned not to long ago, that if you temperary make a Super Werewolf (that's a Werewolf with most of the powers), that sim can actually defeat permanently Greg. As for the Moonwood Townies, I'm not sure.
On another note, I do recommend the following woodsy Worlds that aren't locked with the Wolfies.
They are:
Henford (Cottage Living)
Glimmerbrook (Realm of Magic)

Thanks. I don't plan to ignore the werewolves totally. I might not play them actively, but it will be cool seeing them as a danger in this world. I will send sims there to camp, and hoping it will be a creepy vacation :)

I have also considered Magic Realm, but werewolves seem less annoying when not being played.
Do anyone know if there is a lifeline system for werewolves, as there is for spellcasters?

Sending sims to camp in moonwood mill sounds like a good idea for a story line. I think my next werewolf might get lycanthropy after a camping trip to moonwood mill.

I am not entirely sure what you mean with a lifeline system? Are you talking about the magical bloodline traits? Werewolf offspring can inherit one of two possible traits, or none.
- greater bloodwolf trait: increases werewolf xp gain
- dormant wolf : these sims are not werewolves themselves but are supposed to be less frightened by them. You can awaken the dormant wolf inside them and turn them into a werewolf without being bitten.
Unlike the magic bloodline trait, the werewolf traits are random. They don't increase in strength through the generations.

"Atreya33;c-18275193" wrote:

"Simmerville;c-18275164" wrote:

"SERVERFRA;c-18273833" wrote:
If you really like Moonwood Mill, it can be possible to play it without Werewolves. Also, I've actually learned not to long ago, that if you temperary make a Super Werewolf (that's a Werewolf with most of the powers), that sim can actually defeat permanently Greg. As for the Moonwood Townies, I'm not sure.
On another note, I do recommend the following woodsy Worlds that aren't locked with the Wolfies.
They are:
Henford (Cottage Living)
Glimmerbrook (Realm of Magic)

Thanks. I don't plan to ignore the werewolves totally. I might not play them actively, but it will be cool seeing them as a danger in this world. I will send sims there to camp, and hoping it will be a creepy vacation :)

I have also considered Magic Realm, but werewolves seem less annoying when not being played.
Do anyone know if there is a lifeline system for werewolves, as there is for spellcasters?

Sending sims to camp in moonwood mill sounds like a good idea for a story line. I think my next werewolf might get lycanthropy after a camping trip to moonwood mill.

I am not entirely sure what you mean with a lifeline system? Are you talking about the magical bloodline traits? Werewolf offspring can inherit one of two possible traits, or none.
- greater bloodwolf trait: increases werewolf xp gain
- dormant wolf : these sims are not werewolves themselves but are supposed to be less frightened by them. You can awaken the dormant wolf inside them and turn them into a werewolf without being bitten.

Spoiler

They have to swim in the lake lunvik in moonwood mill at full moon.

Unlike the magic bloodline trait, the werewolf traits are random. They don't increase in strength through the generations.

Thanks! Yup, I meant bloodline - you're good at guessing :)

Yup, Werewolves has the very best power book ever. ;)

"Simmerville;c-18273832" wrote:
I read some more abut this pack. My question now is what will happen to NPCs if I make all 5 lots residential?

Lou Howell (Wildfangs Pack Member)
Rory Oaklow (Wildfangs Pack Leader/Alpha)
Celene López (Mixologist)
Wolfgang Wilder (Librarian)
Greg (Feral Werewolf/Widower Werewolf)

I assume Greg will not be affected, but what mission have the librarian and the mixologist and will I ruin something by removing the library and bar? Can it be mended by rebuilding a bar on a smaller lot? I need the biggest lot for residential...

I thought I read somewhere that the mixologist at the bar in Moonwood mills can mix up a concoction to keep you from turning into a werewolf if you get bitten, and that the library in town has werewolf lore. I don’t know what happens if you get rid of them for some other lot.

I don’t play occults much. I have only made some twin witches so far. I like the way occults are in the sims 4, where they do not seem to be intrusive on other worlds ( except the vampires, they can drain you if you don’t keep your doors locked at night, and once in awhile you will see them in bat form briefly. They can also show up at a lot like a nightclub and lock everyone inside for a bit, unless they nerfed that ). I like that occults are NOT seen ( as occults ) around every corner, and the same with ghosts and aliens. To me it makes the occults, aliens, and ghosts more special. I don’t want other sims to know my spellcasters are witches in most cases, I prefer them being more secretive.

I haven’t had a problem with any of the occults affecting my play style ( and I have them all ) because they are not, in general obtrusive. An occasional abduction, or seeing a ghost after telling a ghost story around a campfire, or a rare vampire attack ( I have one sim I have to watch out for as one vampire likes to drain her ) or lock in occasionally brings a little rare color to the game.

Both vampires an werewolves ( and also city living a bit ) bring some grungy stuff to the game which can be used in so many ways. I love the cracks, spots on the walls, and climbing vines in the vampire pack. Werewolves bring torn clothes, scratched floors and scratched walls to the game, and tattered furniture. Realm of Magic brings some beautiful antique furniture to the game, and some cute clothing pieces and hair to the game. And, each world is unique.