What are your thoughts on the complaining?

"Scobre;c-17711298" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711270" wrote:
I think its fine if people want to complain maybe they need to vent about something maybe it helps some people

I rather them vent towards the game than the people. Venting towards people never solves anything and thus why the Sims 4 still remains in its state now. Imagine how much we could have done in the game had people put aside their differences and worked together to make the Sims 4 a better game instead of turning the community into a warzone. That just tells me they have unresolved insecurity and depression issues attacking people over a video game and pretty much virtual barbie dolls. Like what a waste of six years of their lifetime trolling on the internets over a game that other gamers call a childish franchise already and the fighting just intensifies the trolling we get from other games anyways. Like it is an embarrassment to call ourselves a Simmer now with how the community behaves towards each other. It is a rough time to be a Simmer right now. But it is an interesting conversation hearing from other communities how dysfunctional our community appears to them. I don't blame anyone not wanting to get into any of the Sims games right now based on community reputation alone which is lower than dirt.

This article is good about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zfmkrj6

Why I think making the other Sims games playable to an account too might help, because for the Sims 1-3, there isn't any risk to their games for trolling. Sims 4 there is which is why I think it is the main target to get people to stop playing.[/quote
yes I agree picking on people never good I think its just because more people know about it then the other games
there's more people playing this game then ever played the others its just more avalable and with more people comes more
trolls @Scobre

"comicsforlife;c-17711382" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711298" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711270" wrote:
I think its fine if people want to complain maybe they need to vent about something maybe it helps some people

I rather them vent towards the game than the people. Venting towards people never solves anything and thus why the Sims 4 still remains in its state now. Imagine how much we could have done in the game had people put aside their differences and worked together to make the Sims 4 a better game instead of turning the community into a warzone. That just tells me they have unresolved insecurity and depression issues attacking people over a video game and pretty much virtual barbie dolls. Like what a waste of six years of their lifetime trolling on the internets over a game that other gamers call a childish franchise already and the fighting just intensifies the trolling we get from other games anyways. Like it is an embarrassment to call ourselves a Simmer now with how the community behaves towards each other. It is a rough time to be a Simmer right now. But it is an interesting conversation hearing from other communities how dysfunctional our community appears to them. I don't blame anyone not wanting to get into any of the Sims games right now based on community reputation alone which is lower than dirt.

This article is good about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zfmkrj6

Why I think making the other Sims games playable to an account too might help, because for the Sims 1-3, there isn't any risk to their games for trolling. Sims 4 there is which is why I think it is the main target to get people to stop playing.

yes I agree picking on people never good I think its just because more people know about it then the other games
there's more people playing this game then ever played the others its just more available and with more people comes more
trolls @Scobre

"Scobre;c-17711404" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711382" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711298" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711270" wrote:
I think its fine if people want to complain maybe they need to vent about something maybe it helps some people

I rather them vent towards the game than the people. Venting towards people never solves anything and thus why the Sims 4 still remains in its state now. Imagine how much we could have done in the game had people put aside their differences and worked together to make the Sims 4 a better game instead of turning the community into a warzone. That just tells me they have unresolved insecurity and depression issues attacking people over a video game and pretty much virtual barbie dolls. Like what a waste of six years of their lifetime trolling on the internets over a game that other gamers call a childish franchise already and the fighting just intensifies the trolling we get from other games anyways. Like it is an embarrassment to call ourselves a Simmer now with how the community behaves towards each other. It is a rough time to be a Simmer right now. But it is an interesting conversation hearing from other communities how dysfunctional our community appears to them. I don't blame anyone not wanting to get into any of the Sims games right now based on community reputation alone which is lower than dirt.

This article is good about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zfmkrj6

Why I think making the other Sims games playable to an account too might help, because for the Sims 1-3, there isn't any risk to their games for trolling. Sims 4 there is which is why I think it is the main target to get people to stop playing.

yes I agree picking on people never good I think its just because more people know about it then the other games
there's more people playing this game then ever played the others its just more available and with more people comes more
trolls @Scobre

Very true. I don't think the pandemic is helping either. Actually fun fact I learned about that was people more at risk have lower Vitamin D levels. I know people are stressed more than usual because of this and well they have to vent somewhere. I just wish it was towards Sims rather than the Simmers that's all. But might be me being unrealistic. I know a lot of people are angry right now and like with customer service, it is not me or Gurus that people are mad at, they are facing something behind their computers that goes much deeper than the game so have to remember not to take their venting personal. I know a lot of Simmers use the games as a way to cope with bad situations. I had a feeling the Sims 4 would have a rocky experience just because of world conditions changing more rapidly prior to those six years. The world was a much more peaceful place during the Sims 1-3.

"Goldmoldar;c-17711561" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711404" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711382" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711298" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711270" wrote:
I think its fine if people want to complain maybe they need to vent about something maybe it helps some people

I rather them vent towards the game than the people. Venting towards people never solves anything and thus why the Sims 4 still remains in its state now. Imagine how much we could have done in the game had people put aside their differences and worked together to make the Sims 4 a better game instead of turning the community into a warzone. That just tells me they have unresolved insecurity and depression issues attacking people over a video game and pretty much virtual barbie dolls. Like what a waste of six years of their lifetime trolling on the internets over a game that other gamers call a childish franchise already and the fighting just intensifies the trolling we get from other games anyways. Like it is an embarrassment to call ourselves a Simmer now with how the community behaves towards each other. It is a rough time to be a Simmer right now. But it is an interesting conversation hearing from other communities how dysfunctional our community appears to them. I don't blame anyone not wanting to get into any of the Sims games right now based on community reputation alone which is lower than dirt.

This article is good about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zfmkrj6

Why I think making the other Sims games playable to an account too might help, because for the Sims 1-3, there isn't any risk to their games for trolling. Sims 4 there is which is why I think it is the main target to get people to stop playing.

yes I agree picking on people never good I think its just because more people know about it then the other games
there's more people playing this game then ever played the others its just more available and with more people comes more
trolls @Scobre

Very true. I don't think the pandemic is helping either. Actually fun fact I learned about that was people more at risk have lower Vitamin D levels. I know people are stressed more than usual because of this and well they have to vent somewhere. I just wish it was towards Sims rather than the Simmers that's all. But might be me being unrealistic. I know a lot of people are angry right now and like with customer service, it is not me or Gurus that people are mad at, they are facing something behind their computers that goes much deeper than the game so have to remember not to take their venting personal. I know a lot of Simmers use the games as a way to cope with bad situations. I had a feeling the Sims 4 would have a rocky experience just because of world conditions changing more rapidly prior to those six years. The world was a much more peaceful place during the Sims 1-3.

So true and it did not help by cutting so many features and not tweak them. There an lot of systems out there that could handle the features that was cut especially down that 64 bit has taken hold. But what is done is done and I feel Sims 4 has reached it peak even with the new update. If they were to say we are giving you the end users the tools to create your neighborhoods and also edit everything possible for me that itself would breathe new life into Sims 4 and also prolong it's life, one can dream. :)

"Scobre;c-17711735" wrote:

"Goldmoldar;c-17711561" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711404" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711382" wrote:

"Scobre;c-17711298" wrote:

"comicsforlife;c-17711270" wrote:
I think its fine if people want to complain maybe they need to vent about something maybe it helps some people

I rather them vent towards the game than the people. Venting towards people never solves anything and thus why the Sims 4 still remains in its state now. Imagine how much we could have done in the game had people put aside their differences and worked together to make the Sims 4 a better game instead of turning the community into a warzone. That just tells me they have unresolved insecurity and depression issues attacking people over a video game and pretty much virtual barbie dolls. Like what a waste of six years of their lifetime trolling on the internets over a game that other gamers call a childish franchise already and the fighting just intensifies the trolling we get from other games anyways. Like it is an embarrassment to call ourselves a Simmer now with how the community behaves towards each other. It is a rough time to be a Simmer right now. But it is an interesting conversation hearing from other communities how dysfunctional our community appears to them. I don't blame anyone not wanting to get into any of the Sims games right now based on community reputation alone which is lower than dirt.

This article is good about it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/zfmkrj6

Why I think making the other Sims games playable to an account too might help, because for the Sims 1-3, there isn't any risk to their games for trolling. Sims 4 there is which is why I think it is the main target to get people to stop playing.

yes I agree picking on people never good I think its just because more people know about it then the other games
there's more people playing this game then ever played the others its just more available and with more people comes more
trolls @Scobre

Very true. I don't think the pandemic is helping either. Actually fun fact I learned about that was people more at risk have lower Vitamin D levels. I know people are stressed more than usual because of this and well they have to vent somewhere. I just wish it was towards Sims rather than the Simmers that's all. But might be me being unrealistic. I know a lot of people are angry right now and like with customer service, it is not me or Gurus that people are mad at, they are facing something behind their computers that goes much deeper than the game so have to remember not to take their venting personal. I know a lot of Simmers use the games as a way to cope with bad situations. I had a feeling the Sims 4 would have a rocky experience just because of world conditions changing more rapidly prior to those six years. The world was a much more peaceful place during the Sims 1-3.

So true and it did not help by cutting so many features and not tweak them. There an lot of systems out there that could handle the features that was cut especially down that 64 bit has taken hold. But what is done is done and I feel Sims 4 has reached it peak even with the new update. If they were to say we are giving you the end users the tools to create your neighborhoods and also edit everything possible for me that itself would breathe new life into Sims 4 and also prolong it's life, one can dream. :)

I would like ability to edit our neighborhoods too. Part of me wonders if Sims game is only as strong as its parent game SimCity. SimCity 2013 had very similar neighborhood design as the Sims 4 so I understand why feedback would be the same for both games. I am personally ok with not having CAW but I would like there to be neighborhood editing tools like the Sims 2. I have a feeling Sims 4 is running out of ideas too, so personally beyond next year don't see many themes left to do that can't be covered by the user made stuff packs by the modding community. I mean only thing left is farms now and supernaturals for paid content to do. Rest can be done through patches. I mean I have a few themes they could venture to large packs to allow for more time for patches and Sims 5 base game development, but yeah I feel like the lifecycle will end soon too just because every game has a life before it becomes outdated with tech and art style even with the cartoon focus. Cartoons age too. I am happy with the upcoming updates. I am a builder and gameplay player so it will be right up my alley. I know we have had many discussions together wanting more focus with families and lifetime effects with some sort of memory system so exciting times soon. Didn't think it would take six years to get here but better late than never.

I could see fairies in a happy haunts GP, werewolves in a Farm EP, and zombies in a GP with an underwater world with arcade games. Weddings in a SP.

"Goldmoldar;c-17712251" wrote:


Yes, if CAW cannot be done use the editing tools from Sims 2. I had an rough time with CAW in Sims 3 as I felt it had an steep learning curve but I loved other people work as they knew how to use it. they may not necessarily have to let one make new Neighborhoods but at least let one edit the neighborhood and make the lots or change it as it was done in Sims 3.

"Scobre;c-17712282" wrote:

"Goldmoldar;c-17712251" wrote:


Yes, if CAW cannot be done use the editing tools from Sims 2. I had an rough time with CAW in Sims 3 as I felt it had an steep learning curve but I loved other people work as they knew how to use it. they may not necessarily have to let one make new Neighborhoods but at least let one edit the neighborhood and make the lots or change it as it was done in Sims 3.

How I felt too. I never was good at building neighborhoods with CAW tool but I admit I probably did fangirl a bit when I saw Rflong on Sims forums. I loved her worlds especially the routing fixes ones I used a lot. She's a sweetheart too when I got to know her better. Oh forgot bands is another theme I know Simmers wants too and would make a good pack. I personally want broadway/rock/jazz bands theme myself. I could see zombies or genies maybe working with that theme and it would do well as an EP. So maybe 1.5 years with themes people want still I can see being developed with all of that.

"afternoonbaboon;d-982646" wrote:
It might just be me, but is anyone just sick of the complaining that comes out of this forum? Seriously, are you guys actually shocked when we get minuscule gameplay features? I have my own problems with the game (Selling out to Disney? Why!?) but, I'm honestly just grateful we have decent parts of the game. The six different complaint threads for every released pack to date (as well as the base-game) popping up in my feed is exhausting. Maxis is probably trying to please us as best they can, and it's most likely really discouraging to have such vocal negativity around projects they've worked on. Where is the positivity on the main level of the forum?


Feel free to add your piece, or get into a light hearted debate with me on the issue of complaining.

EDIT: Oof. This is difficult to look at. I don't want to bruise my reputation on this forum and don't want others to get into meaningless fights about something that I posted. This was never the intention. All I wanted to do was share my own opinion, and hear others' opinions as well. It seems as though this has become Facebook in a way. A user ((I forget who) said that I should add a question to hopefully make this less of a vent, and more of a public discussion. I think that's a good idea.

So: What do you think of the complaining, negativity, and personal threats to Maxis on the forum?

"Goldmoldar;c-17712251" wrote:

Yes, if CAW cannot be done use the editing tools from Sims 2. I had an rough time with CAW in Sims 3 as I felt it had an steep learning curve but I loved other people work as they knew how to use it. they may not necessarily have to let one make new Neighborhoods but at least let one edit the neighborhood and make the lots or change it as it was done in Sims 3.

"Ravager619;c-17712423" wrote:

"afternoonbaboon;d-982646" wrote:
It might just be me, but is anyone just sick of the complaining that comes out of this forum? Seriously, are you guys actually shocked when we get minuscule gameplay features? I have my own problems with the game (Selling out to Disney? Why!?) but, I'm honestly just grateful we have decent parts of the game. The six different complaint threads for every released pack to date (as well as the base-game) popping up in my feed is exhausting. Maxis is probably trying to please us as best they can, and it's most likely really discouraging to have such vocal negativity around projects they've worked on. Where is the positivity on the main level of the forum?


Feel free to add your piece, or get into a light hearted debate with me on the issue of complaining.

EDIT: Oof. This is difficult to look at. I don't want to bruise my reputation on this forum and don't want others to get into meaningless fights about something that I posted. This was never the intention. All I wanted to do was share my own opinion, and hear others' opinions as well. It seems as though this has become Facebook in a way. A user ((I forget who) said that I should add a question to hopefully make this less of a vent, and more of a public discussion. I think that's a good idea.

So: What do you think of the complaining, negativity, and personal threats to Maxis on the forum?

It used to be a lot worse. Anyone remember when the game didn't have toddlers?