"Stormsview;c-16221884" wrote:
I feel we need more then Just seasons, we also need extreme weather, like hailstorms, snowstorms thunder/lighting, and tornados, also severe weather alerts.
What do our saves have to do with whether or not it's raining outside.? Even our Pets know inside the house from outside the house, and we know who gave them that knowledge.
So what area of a save might be affected by, oh it's snowing now the Sims don't know where they live anymore? :| I don't think so.
"jackjack_k;c-16221273" wrote:"@Cinebar;c-16221152" wrote:"jackjack_k;c-16220530" wrote:
They already said Seasons is possible in all worlds, so I don't know why this is a thread. Lol.
Because TS4 choices have been weird up to this point. Apartments in only one town/city. Festivals in only one town/city. Darker skies/different stormy clouds only in one town/world. Collectibles only found in certain places in different hidden worlds/ or towns. Fish in only particular hidden worlds. I can see it's quite possible snow gets confined to a vacation town rather than in OS..just by the history of TS4 so far. And what I said is only minor examples of how confining it has become and it wouldn't surprise me if 'weather' elements aren't everywhere. ETA: I made the thread so people could vote now, so Maxis would know most would not want a different pack for every 'season', but in all existing worlds in case they are even thinking about it.
They said that if they introduced Sims 2 style Apartments they would be available in all worlds. And they’re still possible. Grant also said future worlds may have Apartments as well.
The focus was on living in the City, not living solely in Apartments.
CL focused on Skyhigh Apartments and it makes perfect sense why they aren’t in other worlds.
We were also told we could get more Festivals in the future. But the ones with CL focused on types you would find in the City, I can assure you if the tech is there, Maxis will reuse it. They lovvvvvve doing that. :p
And Sims 3 had everything else you mentioned, So not sure why it seems strange.
Apartments in only one town/city. Festivals in only one town/city. Darker skies/different stormy clouds only in one town/world. Collectibles only found in certain places in different hidden worlds/ or towns. Fish in only particular hidden worlds.
"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
"Neia;c-16222602" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
"Cinebar;c-16222613" wrote:"Neia;c-16222602" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
Actually,no, you can dig a hole flatten the bottom download some water terrain paint, (or create your own) paint it and tell your Sim to get in. I did a tutorial back in the day under the name Wndy10010 how to make a swimable lake. You don't have to use the terrain cheat at all. And it was there before any EP. It is as simple as using the stairs method to build a basement or dig a basement.
Adding a new diving board and calling it new gameplay is a little bit lame in my opinion, o.k. a whole lot lame but I digress.
@jackjack_k you just answered your own questions when you replied to me. With the comment about it was because apartments were about living in a city.....point exactly. They want to take old ideas and give them new twists, so it stands to reason to me weather and seasons would have a twist, too, and possibly not be in every world if you use CL as an example.
"Neia;c-16222630" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16222613" wrote:"Neia;c-16222602" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
Actually,no, you can dig a hole flatten the bottom download some water terrain paint, (or create your own) paint it and tell your Sim to get in. I did a tutorial back in the day under the name Wndy10010 how to make a swimable lake. You don't have to use the terrain cheat at all. And it was there before any EP. It is as simple as using the stairs method to build a basement or dig a basement.
Adding a new diving board and calling it new gameplay is a little bit lame in my opinion, o.k. a whole lot lame but I digress.
@jackjack_k you just answered your own questions when you replied to me. With the comment about it was because apartments were about living in a city.....point exactly. They want to take old ideas and give them new twists, so it stands to reason to me weather and seasons would have a twist, too, and possibly not be in every world if you use CL as an example.
If you need a tutorial to do it, you need to download/make CCs, and it's not shown in the promotional material, that's not really a main point of an EP ;) They were fine to sell us a Season EP in TS2 that didn't feature swimming everywhere, and they may very well do it again.
I mean, Seasons is a broad theme, so it's fairly easy to mix it with other themes that are related, like vacation with beach, skiing and the like. But that's certainly not the only way they could do it, and that's not the only way they did it in the past either.
"Cinebar;c-16222665" wrote:"Neia;c-16222630" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16222613" wrote:"Neia;c-16222602" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
Actually,no, you can dig a hole flatten the bottom download some water terrain paint, (or create your own) paint it and tell your Sim to get in. I did a tutorial back in the day under the name Wndy10010 how to make a swimable lake. You don't have to use the terrain cheat at all. And it was there before any EP. It is as simple as using the stairs method to build a basement or dig a basement.
Adding a new diving board and calling it new gameplay is a little bit lame in my opinion, o.k. a whole lot lame but I digress.
@jackjack_k you just answered your own questions when you replied to me. With the comment about it was because apartments were about living in a city.....point exactly. They want to take old ideas and give them new twists, so it stands to reason to me weather and seasons would have a twist, too, and possibly not be in every world if you use CL as an example.
If you need a tutorial to do it, you need to download/make CCs, and it's not shown in the promotional material, that's not really a main point of an EP ;) They were fine to sell us a Season EP in TS2 that didn't feature swimming everywhere, and they may very well do it again.
I mean, Seasons is a broad theme, so it's fairly easy to mix it with other themes that are related, like vacation with beach, skiing and the like. But that's certainly not the only way they could do it, and that's not the only way they did it in the past either.
Considering CL and the twist they put on apartments confined to only one city/world, what kind of twist to you think they will put on Seasons? I think (just an opinion) they will not build a system able to use in every world. I think they will do it just like TS1 and have snow in one location and sunny weather (beaches) in another. I wouldn't be surprised. ETA: Think about C&D it is also twisting Pets into only cats and dogs. I think we know before they release if we take a look at those examples.
"Cinebar;c-16222665" wrote:"Neia;c-16222630" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16222613" wrote:"Neia;c-16222602" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221189" wrote:"Neia;c-16221182" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221168" wrote:"Neia;c-16221162" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221159" wrote:"Neia;c-16221150" wrote:"Cinebar;c-16221141" wrote:"Neia;c-16220950" wrote:
@JoAnne65
They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
Actually,no, you can dig a hole flatten the bottom download some water terrain paint, (or create your own) paint it and tell your Sim to get in. I did a tutorial back in the day under the name Wndy10010 how to make a swimable lake. You don't have to use the terrain cheat at all. And it was there before any EP. It is as simple as using the stairs method to build a basement or dig a basement.
Adding a new diving board and calling it new gameplay is a little bit lame in my opinion, o.k. a whole lot lame but I digress.
@jackjack_k you just answered your own questions when you replied to me. With the comment about it was because apartments were about living in a city.....point exactly. They want to take old ideas and give them new twists, so it stands to reason to me weather and seasons would have a twist, too, and possibly not be in every world if you use CL as an example.
If you need a tutorial to do it, you need to download/make CCs, and it's not shown in the promotional material, that's not really a main point of an EP ;) They were fine to sell us a Season EP in TS2 that didn't feature swimming everywhere, and they may very well do it again.
I mean, Seasons is a broad theme, so it's fairly easy to mix it with other themes that are related, like vacation with beach, skiing and the like. But that's certainly not the only way they could do it, and that's not the only way they did it in the past either.
Considering CL and the twist they put on apartments confined to only one city/world, what kind of twist to you think they will put on Seasons? I think (just an opinion) they will not build a system able to use in every world. I think they will do it just like TS1 and have snow in one location and sunny weather (beaches) in another. I wouldn't be surprised. ETA: Think about C&D it is also twisting Pets into only cats and dogs. I think we know before they release if we take a look at those examples.
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They also said :
https://twitter.com/SimGuruDaniel/status/649019962204516352
@kremesch73
If I remember right, they never said they can't make change to worlds. It was in a specific context, about changing the lot composition for example, which probably excludes landslide or canyon forming in the existing worlds and moving the lots, but the four seasons have never changed the size and the position of my home lot irl, so I bet my immersion won't be broken if they don't in Willow Creek either.
They would have to build different terrains to allow Sims to swim in an ocean like WB. I don't think they would do it and then they have said changing things in neighhborhoods could break saves. Their idea may be FX snow and not playable snow, we don't know. I don't think they would just make snow FX so existing worlds could have snow etc. but this is TS4 and they've made some weird choices I didn't think they ever would...like more of a mobile game than an actual multi million dollar pc game.
TS2 Seasons didn't have swimming in the ocean, so it's not required to make a Seasons EP (and I think TS2 Seasons was awesome ;))
It didn't need to add them then, we already had the ability to swim in our ponds and lakes as long as you understood how to build terrain around it to keep them from swimming across the lot. :) ETA: TS2 Sims could swim in water terrain paint.
That's not in the ocean though. Swimming in the ocean came with Bon Voyage.
Exactly a vacation EP. But summer means swimming in lakes, ponds and oceans for most who don't have those things near by. ETA: Point the code was already there to get them to swim in a water terrain paint. It's not in TS4.
Swimming in lakes isn't the only thing associated with summer, and we already have the natural pools. They could released a Seasons EP with seasons everywhere, and release a vacation EP or GP with swimmable area in the destination world.
Natural pond is an object is it not? I don't remember. AKA pool. I'm talking about terrain paint. You dig a hole in TS2 you add water terrain paint. They won't swim in it if it's just grass filling, painting a hole. We don't have the ability to dig a pond or lake in TS4. ETA: You don't use the water tool but can just dig a hole and paint it with water terrain paint.
I'm sorry but most associate summer with swimming anywhere, cooling off, vacations to beaches if you don't have local beach near by. If you can't swim in summer what is the purpose or what would some do that isn't in game now in summer? Not much to add other than the heat and the swimming in oceans and lakes, maybe boating or something or ski jets or something but that is the pass time of summer in the U.S. Boats, and swimming along with a few festivals like a holiday. Sunbathing has become passe since skin cancer is on the rise.
I'm talking about the natural pools that were introduced in GT. I'm not sure what you have in mind when you say terrain paint. In TS2, all the tutorials I'm finding have like a dozen steps, with CFE cheat code and the like. That's hardly the kind of thing every user of TS2 Seasons was doing and, unsurprisingly, it wasn't shown in the promotional material for TS2 Seasons so swimming anywhere wasn't a main point of this EP and that didn't stop them from releasing the pack.
And there are lots of things they could add (and some they have added in TS2) for summer : new slides/diving board, new games in the swimming pool, relaxing and idling, lounge chairs, smaller telescope, new games in the garden (water fight), new sport activities (tennis, cycling, roller skating, etc). It's not like summer in TS2 Seasons was only about sunbathing.
Actually,no, you can dig a hole flatten the bottom download some water terrain paint, (or create your own) paint it and tell your Sim to get in. I did a tutorial back in the day under the name Wndy10010 how to make a swimable lake. You don't have to use the terrain cheat at all. And it was there before any EP. It is as simple as using the stairs method to build a basement or dig a basement.
Adding a new diving board and calling it new gameplay is a little bit lame in my opinion, o.k. a whole lot lame but I digress.
@jackjack_k you just answered your own questions when you replied to me. With the comment about it was because apartments were about living in a city.....point exactly. They want to take old ideas and give them new twists, so it stands to reason to me weather and seasons would have a twist, too, and possibly not be in every world if you use CL as an example.
If you need a tutorial to do it, you need to download/make CCs, and it's not shown in the promotional material, that's not really a main point of an EP ;) They were fine to sell us a Season EP in TS2 that didn't feature swimming everywhere, and they may very well do it again.
I mean, Seasons is a broad theme, so it's fairly easy to mix it with other themes that are related, like vacation with beach, skiing and the like. But that's certainly not the only way they could do it, and that's not the only way they did it in the past either.
Considering CL and the twist they put on apartments confined to only one city/world, what kind of twist to you think they will put on Seasons? I think (just an opinion) they will not build a system able to use in every world. I think they will do it just like TS1 and have snow in one location and sunny weather (beaches) in another. I wouldn't be surprised. ETA: Think about C&D it is also twisting Pets into only cats and dogs. I think we know before they release if we take a look at those examples.
No doubt there will be people disappointed about one thing or another, there's just no way they'll release a TS4 Seasons that encompass all TS2 Seasons + all TS3 Seasons + all the things people think would fit into a Season pack. ;)
I bet we won't have a new world (which may disappoint builders), so we probably won't have the seasonal festivals either, or a life state (sad supernatural players). There will most likely be a bunch of activities that won't make a come back either (whether that's face painting, snowboarding, marco polo or whatever, there will be some not included, and there will be some people missing those). Overall it will most likely be like all other EPs : a bunch of things I like, a bunch of things I miss and a bunch of things I don't care about.
