Forum Discussion
8 years ago
"Kuroi;c-16266166" wrote:"jimmysnan;c-16263241" wrote:
I do understand the creators issues really i do.
I find the offense in being accused of something i have not done before i have done anything.
I find the stop stealing hashtag offensive.
All the dont save it there all the give credit does not solve my problem. I give the creator credit. They want that respect. I want the respect to stop being called a thief before i have done anything.
As you say they want credit. They get credit they want respect give me respect and remove the accusation that i am stealing. Its really that simple to me.
I find the hashtag offensive. Respect for fellow simmers who do whats right means it should be removed. Respect goes both ways.
And the hashtag is stop stealing. It would be a better statement and not so offensive to me if they were asking me dont steal. Understand what i mean? Its how its said.
Maybe that seems trivial to some but to me it means respect. You get what you give.
Yes, I understand you. And I can only give you one advice about this: Don't take this stupid hashtag personally. You do nothing wrong and you know that. I know, you don't want to hear "Get over it" but in this case that's the healthiest way to deal with it. Like I said before, I don't see any sense in that "don't steal" thing either, because it is provocative and doesn't make any difference for those who intend to steal. It's easier to remove than the original creator's name and doesn't prove anything, in the worst case it looks like a generalized accusation or sheer arrogance. But these users don't mean you, they mean the "thieves" and probably never thought about how someone like you (who just wants a backup) would feel about it. I agree with you when you find that insensitive but it's not worth all the anger. (I wouldn't go so far to say it's respectless as I don't see any intention to hurt someone.) Nevertheless, it's good to discuss your point of view publicly, so that people get aware of it and maybe even start to consider it.Writin_Reg wrote:I don't mean being offensive but I don't care what any Arts Professor would or would not say in this case. I mean, we could go on in this direction like: discuss what "art" really is (which is why I put it in quotation marks), what your professor would say about "art forgery" and when "plagiarism" begins etc. - but that just doesn't make much sense as it would be off-topic. (Maybe we're misunderstanding each other, I don't know.)
Actually it does. You tell that to your Creative Arts Professor seeing one third of your credit is based on the time spent and the difficulty of your project and challenge at hand.Writin_Reg wrote:But this doesn't give you the right to put your name on someone else's stick figure. (I don't mean you personally.)
Anyone can draw a stick figure.
You quoted the gallery's terms of use saying it's about "sharing" - which is completely okay for me. But sharing doesn't mean claiming someone else's work my own. For me it means: to use the shared contenct according to its purpose - which mainly is play with it in my game. The gallery tags content with the original creator's name for a reason: So that they get credit even when their stuff is re-uploaded. And if someone removes that name tag because they want to appear as the original creator they are "stealing" someone else's work.
And that's the only case I'm talking about: removing(!) that name tag with the intention(!) to be credited for someone else's work. Nothing else.
And to be honest, even if a SimGuru would comment on this thread and say: "Yeah, remove that name tag and re-upload that stuff! You've got our full permission to do whatever you like and we'll be applauding!" I'd still find it respectless and call it "theft" because of what I wrote in my first post: there are social rules we shouldn't need any laws (or terms of uses) for.
Please do not just dismiss my feelings with a just ignore and go on. I feel what i feel. Now my opinion is waivering on the reuploading. I will respect that. However if the hashtag stop stealing is with it i will pass it by. If we all stopped giving credit for the creators who use this hashtag it would go away but that is not possible. So i will not be loading anything from them they can keep it amoung them and their friends.