What's something that, if not in Seasons, would disappoint you?

Definitely season length and timing being under player control, meaning I would like to decide when it's spring and for how long. Personally I would like my IG seasons to mirror the RL seasons. I would like to play summer in game during the course of RL summer and then transition to fall and so on. While others may want winter at that time to play Christmas in July. I think it would be nice if possible to have that flexibility.

"amandaneun;d-938724" wrote:
Assuming we get Seasons at all, of course, and I'm sure we will as it's SEASONS.

I'm sure no one has suuuuuuuper high expectations, but what would you possibly be disappointed by?
For example, would you be upset if there were no festivals like in TS3? Would you be upset by not being able to choose season length?
Would you be upset by too few new traits or CAS items? Would you be upset by a lack of holidays such as Spooky Day?

What would disappoint you if not found in the initial EP?

EDIT: This is not a thread meant to encourage complaints, or assumptions about how EA will screw up.
I'm just curious to know what people really want to see so badly, that they'll be disappointed by its lack of appearance.

For me, personally, I would say festivals and new deaths/illnesses. Perhaps some we've never seen before.
Death by allergies? I don't know if that was ever a thing.

Maybe something like a "seasonal sadness" or a "seasonal discomfort" :blush:

If there is no festivals, holidays and skating rinks.

If there's no weather and no way to manually change weather (even if through cheats is fine). My expectations are REALLY low as you can tell. Being able to custom set season length per world save would be nice as well.

To be honest though I fall more into the "I want WEATHER" crowd than necessarily "I want SEASONS" crowd. I'm hoping with the next game at very least basic weather changes (snow and rain) would be in the base game, and a seasons EP would expand upon that.

I'd be disappointed if different worlds didn't have different experiences of seasons and weather.

I’d be disappointed if sims had zero reaction to their changing world. If they went outside in swimwear while it’s -20 degrees. Or have wants to swim in the colder seasons.

I just want to feel that my sims know what the weather is with their interactions with the world. And I don’t think that’s asking a lot.

I'd be disappointed if seasons or weather didn't affect plants. I love gardening in my game (hate it IRL), so I would love to have it be a little more realistic. With plants being dormant in winter if they are not planted in a greenhouse. Would be even more realistic, because once you get perfect plants all year round, you can get ridiculously rich in no time. So I would be hiiighly disappointed if they just ignored gardening in a seasons pack.

But all the thinks mentioned above e.g. festivals, reactions to the weather, ability to control the seasons/weather for a world...

Where as Sims 4 not being able to have toggles - plus the issues where worlds we already have can't be changed with gameplay features without breaking saves - then I ask myself how would they incorporate Seasons anyway with us being unable to control weather and with out it breaking all our saves if we wanted to in any way change weather in various worlds ? Add to that the fact early on a dev/engineer said they would not make self contained worlds with just a single season like they made in Sims 1. Weighing all this info together and trying to deduct what is left - I see my most hated probability is game controlled weather via fx overlays with programming for the feel of the weather in sims to react a certain way when each season is looped into - like acting cold when winter is activate, hot when summer is, etc, etc - but even though things may look fantastic for a few days if the weather is nothing but over lays like modders already can make - I have to wonder about interactions with the sims - as Sims characters do not interact to fx -.It would be just like sims never see the fx cars, boats, the trolley, trains, airplanes, fx animals or insects - it is why they don't get excited to see the Showboat or kids get happy to see butterflies or trains or the chipmunk running around in the forest of OR - It is in reality like humans looking at a green screen when a movie is being made about monsters attacking.

How can anyone say weather makes the game more realistic? When it is just more fx fakeness. I don't see the festivals like we had in Sims 3 - but if we get them at all it will be a limited quick event like in CL, and if you blink you'll miss it.

I don't know - maybe we might have been better off wanting Sims 1 kind of seasonal additions to the game instead of expecting Sims 4 to deliver Sims 2 or 3 weather when it's smart technology engine seems to put such limits on events of any kind - never mind the fact we cannot do a single thing to make festivals different - it's always the same thing over and over - where we as players have zero control and creativity.

For the first time ever - as much as many of you seem to have to have Sims 4 Seasons - I already feel down about being pretty sure that is what is coming as the next ep and already so aware of what that means - It will be all great and new for a few days - and then it will quickly become one of those things that begin to feel more annoying and repetitive that we can't control or change one iota.

I really wish people might have wanted something else with more play value and where we at least have some control - as I am not at all a fan of visual effects outside of movies - because a game should be us doing thing, interacting and controlling the game when it is a sandbox game like the sims - not a projected movie of events where we - the players are stuck just watching the game play out itself. Might as well go watch a movie.

Needless to say - Seasons in Sims 4 is not something I look forward to - I really wanted a pack I could actually play the game in - not watch it like CL is. I fear that is what we will get.

"Writin_Reg;c-16437580" wrote:
Where as Sims 4 not being able to have toggles - plus the issues where worlds we already have can't be changed with gameplay features without breaking saves - then I ask myself how would they incorporate Seasons anyway with us being unable to control weather and with out it breaking all our saves if we wanted to in any way change weather in various worlds ? Add to that the fact early on a dev/engineer said they would not make self contained worlds with just a single season like they made in Sims 1. Weighing all this info together and trying to deduct what is left - I see my most hated probability is game controlled weather via fx overlays with programming for the feel of the weather in sims to react a certain way when each season is looped into - like acting cold when winter is activate, hot when summer is, etc, etc - but even though things may look fantastic for a few days if the weather is nothing but over lays like modders already can make - I have to wonder about interactions with the sims - as Sims characters do not interact to fx -.It would be just like sims never see the fx cars, boats, the trolley, trains, airplanes, fx animals or insects - it is why they don't get excited to see the Showboat or kids get happy to see butterflies or trains or the chipmunk running around in the forest of OR - It is in reality like humans looking at a green screen when a movie is being made about monsters attacking.

How can anyone say weather makes the game more realistic? When it is just more fx fakeness. I don't see the festivals like we had in Sims 3 - but if we get them at all it will be a limited quick event like in CL, and if you blink you'll miss it.

I don't know - maybe we might have been better off wanting Sims 1 kind of seasonal additions to the game instead of expecting Sims 4 to deliver Sims 2 or 3 weather when it's smart technology engine seems to put such limits on events of any kind - never mind the fact we cannot do a single thing to make festivals different - it's always the same thing over and over - where we as players have zero control and creativity.

For the first time ever - as much as many of you seem to have to have Sims 4 Seasons - I already feel down about being pretty sure that is what is coming as the next ep and already so aware of what that means - It will be all great and new for a few days - and then it will quickly become one of those things that begin to feel more annoying and repetitive that we can't control or change one iota.

I really wish people might have wanted something else with more play value and where we at least have some control - as I am not at all a fan of visual effects outside of movies - because a game should be us doing thing, interacting and controlling the game when it is a sandbox game like the sims - not a projected movie of events where we - the players are stuck just watching the game play out itself. Might as well go watch a movie.

Needless to say - Seasons in Sims 4 is not something I look forward to - I really wanted a pack I could actually play the game in - not watch it like CL is. I fear that is what we will get.

I agree with everything you say! I just still have some hope left. Maybe it will be all we hoped for.
Or maybe it's going to be just as it has been with CaD. Everything is a little stale, shallow. So seasons is going to be as well. But if we had wished for something else, we would have run into the same problem.

I don't get my expectations up to super high levels. I want them to make what they want to make. Then in livestreams and reviews I'll see if I want it or not.

Too often I see people get all upset or disappointed if their imaginary packs didn't become reality. I'd rather just take reality for what it is and go from there. :)

All I want is for the weather in seasons to be adjustable. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

No festivals or holidays. If the weather isn't as realistic as sims 3. If there are a lot less things to do based on weather.