Who wants Seasons to be the next expansion after Cats and Dogs?

I don't want Seasons to be the next EP. I need Showtime/Superstar. I need music bands with lead singers.

I would love Seasons to be the next EP for sure, but also having more themed vacation worlds come in like a complimentary GP would be just as great!

Let me elaborate on my choice. I don't want Seasons to be an Expansion based on the EP's they've released so far. I'd rather the GP team tackle that instead. That way there would actually be some in-depth gameplay. I don't want or need a world released with it, just modify the existing ones to allow for the new effects. I could see the GP team actually offering choices for weather instead of it being a forced thing for each world.

"NikNak;c-16176822" wrote:
Let me elaborate on my choice. I don't want Seasons to be an Expansion based on the EP's they've released so far. I'd rather the GP team tackle that instead. That way there would actually be some in-depth gameplay. I don't want or need a world released with it, just modify the existing ones to allow for the new effects. I could see the GP team actually offering choices for weather instead of it being a forced thing for each world.

I agree, it would be extremely important for existing worlds to adapt to the seasons rather than just a single world built for it.

"NikNak;c-16176822" wrote:
Let me elaborate on my choice. I don't want Seasons to be an Expansion based on the EP's they've released so far. I'd rather the GP team tackle that instead. That way there would actually be some in-depth gameplay. I don't want or need a world released with it, just modify the existing ones to allow for the new effects. I could see the GP team actually offering choices for weather instead of it being a forced thing for each world.

In theory I would guess every one wants seasons like that - but then there is two issues - 1 - this game will not work with toggles according to the devs and that would take some kind of toggle or switch - and number 2 - weather would affect every world - and the way they (the devs) keep stating they cannot do anything that changes finished worlds in this game because it breaks saves - so sounds to me as seasons turned each time it happens our saves would be no good. Apparently they have been trying since get to work came out to fix these two issues but apparently could not seeing to answer us who have not been able to get abductions since the turned them down and still could not make a toggle or switch they turned the abduction up a little instead.

So if any thing more then a tuning breaks the saves how the heck is the game going to even allow gradual changes to all the finished worlds anyway as that would be a switch affect - to give player choices would be a toggle. The only way I could see it happen at all is via FX and of course Sims do not react or inter-react to fx programing. So what good is seasons if it becomes as fake as the backgrounds and fx cars and such already in the game. If we want inter - reaction in the game with weather affects it seems to be it would have to be like Sims 1 was - the weather related vacation spots.

Of course like many of us I am still hoping they find a way to do it Sims 3 style - but I have almost zero confidence in that happening and one reason I voted no for Seasons to be next. University would be nice and not have risks like that. Maybe an Ocean liner vacation / Honeymoon/ or family Vacation that visits some fun ports.

"Oldeseadogge;c-16182485" wrote:
In view of all the foul-ups, bugs, and disappointments of every pack released to date, do we really want the current team to tamper with the weather? Unless they are exceedingly much intensively careful about quality control I can easily see things such as: rain = massive flooding, perhaps all animals proceeding in pairs to the nearest boat; snow = single floor homes buried up to the housetops, multiple story homes accessible only via upper floor windows (this happened to my late wife several times while she lived in PEI, Canada); hail = one stone will kill a sim instantly, outside objects destroyed, roofs holed and badly damaged; lightning = massive fire storms akin to late WW2 incinerating everything. Weather is a powerful thing, a force that ever reminds humans just how puny and powerless we really are. Sorry to say, but the performance of TS4 to date does not give me confidence that seasons in it would be of the same quality as in TS2, enough to know there was weather, but not overwhelming in its effects.

The head of the ep team and a few other Devs on that team also worked on Sims 2 and sims 3 so they know how it goes - but this engine, programming and even by its very design Sims 4 is a horse of a different color so no matter how much we like Sims 1 - 2 - or 3 and no matter how great the experience the Sims 4 ep team is in Sims series - this version itself is the issue and not at all the team making it. Keep that in mind.

I have seen people from other studios remark EA and Maxis has some of the best people in this business - many times - they are also called some of the hardest working devs - so I think people ought to give them a break - and consider OTHER issues perhaps. I mean think of it - these are some of the same devs and animators, artists, etc that brought us the Sims 2 and 3. You can't write that off. Can you? Never mind the fact we now have an entire team of folks who do nothing but find solutions to the bugs - which we never had before.

The toddler, parenthood, and the Vamps prove they are great at what they do - but they can't help what canvas they have to paint on. I wish to high heaven they'd allow them to use EA's inhouse Frostbyte 3 engine for a sims game.

I want Seasons but I need to be able to choose the type of weather I want for each world (for example, I don't want it to snow in Oasis Springs). If that's not possible, then at the very least seasons has to affect all worlds, including the ones that came with other packs. If they give us seasons like TS1 where it's only tied to vacation worlds then I will be so done with TS4. That will be the last straw because this EP is probably the one that impacts my gameplay the most. Without it, I feel like the game gets really static, there's no sense that time is passing by, it's like my sims are stuck in an endless summer doing the same things over and over again. It gets boring, really, no matter how much other content they add to the game. There's also a lack of meaningfulness when it comes to certain things, like lighting a fireplace when my sims don't feel cold at all, or dressing them with winter clothes when temperature doesn't even exist, or putting up a Christmas tree when sims don't even acknowledge it because the holiday doesn't exist in game, etc. etc. It all seems super pointless without actual Seasons/Holidays.

I can see it now, Sims 4 rain and snow EP! Who needs 4 seasons when you can have rain and snow. They really wanted to focus on the rain, and the snow, to make sure it was the best rain (and snow) they have ever added to the game!

But in all seriousness, I hardly imagine a Sims 4 EP will be able to tackle seasons in any way that does the previous installments any justice. So far no EP has been a home run, even pets which should have been a no brainer was exposed to the confusing company culture they have over there and wound up being mismanaged entirely. I don’t hold any hope for another fan favorite EP.

I want seasons as well. The game feels bland to me without it.

"drake_mccarty;c-16187792" wrote:
I can see it now, Sims 4 rain and snow EP! Who needs 4 seasons when you can have rain and snow. They really wanted to focus on the rain, and the snow, to make sure it was the best rain (and snow) they have ever added to the game!

But in all seriousness, I hardly imagine a Sims 4 EP will be able to tackle seasons in any way that does the previous installments any justice. So far no EP has been a home run, even pets which should have been a no brainer was exposed to the confusing company culture they have over there and wound up being mismanaged entirely. I don’t hold any hope for another fan favorite EP.

I have to agree with this. Don't get your hopes up to high people.