Something I've been gradually noticing over the years of playing with Sims 4 toddlers is that... I wish they were younger. Like in TS2 and 3.I know a lot of people prefer these older ones because it's less of a hassle to put them in and out of cribs etc, but... I don't feel the same.I want younger/less independent toddlers because it's more fun, especially when the baby stage isn't really a stage since the baby itself is an object. I want the toddlers to sleep in cribs (or at least give us the options to decide if we want them in cribs or beds), because it was cuter. Way, way cuter, and it made me feel like the adults were all the more necessary for them to live. I want them to start out the stage while not being able to walk straight away, but you have to teach them, like in the previous games. I want the stroller back, the fun toys, the changing table and the bottles (not the sippy cups).I am a family player and I love playing with the toddlers, but the more and more I think about this, the sadder I get. Imagine seeing them sleep in a little crib and crawl around before they can walk. I mean... to me, that would make the world's difference to gameplay. But I suppose it's a dream scenario that will never happen... And I'm afraid that the majority of the community prefer the older versions of the toddler, so if we ever get a TS5 they will most likely not change them back to be younger.I don't know. It might sound a little bit ridiculous, but it would really change the gameplay for me as well as the fun value.What do you think? I hope there are at least some of you that think the same as me.EDIT: I would much love for babies to get an update and that we get to do these things to them, but we've already been told that they aren't getting an update. So, in a scenario where babies won't get an update, would you like toddlers to be younger?

Honestly, I whenever I think about TS4 toddlers, I always wonder what age they were going for. It seems like they're meant to be around 3, though certain elements of their skill progression make that seem off. But at the same time, I never played TS2 or 3 so I don't know what age those toddlers were meant to be either. I know that they crawled, but looking at video clips of them, they looked too old to be crawling to me (though that could just be the design). But I suppose that's off topic.As for my answer, since we don't have that stage of a crawling, fully dependent, not tied to a bassinet life stage, it makes me long for one. I don't like how independent toddlers are in that they only need help with the potty skill and can otherwise take care of themselves (Unless they have the independent trait). Now, if we had better babies *cough like Freeplay's* that could learn to crawl, stand, walk, etc; I wouldn't mind older toddlers since it would feel like a natural progression. But if they're going to continue with babies being either an object or not allowing them to learn to crawl, I'd like much younger toddlers.

I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible.

"floridameerkat;c-17072058" wrote:I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible. Lots of people think they're too old for cribs because of their size and the fact that they can walk and do pretty much anything on their own. That's why there are hardly any crib mods. Bigger toddlers don't drink out of bottles and don't need changing tables. They will just look too big for any of that stuff, I'm afraid...

"horselover1;c-17072063" wrote:"floridameerkat;c-17072058" wrote:I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible. Lots of people think they're too old for cribs because of their size and the fact that they can walk and do pretty much anything on their own. That's why there are hardly any crib mods. Bigger toddlers don't drink out of bottles and don't need changing tables. They will just look too big for any of that stuff, I'm afraid...As long as everything is proportional, I don't see the issue. And all of it could be optional. Don't want to use a changing table? Potty train them. Don't want them to drink out of a bottle? Don't give them one. Feed them like we do now. Don't want a crib? Get a toddler bed. Everything would depend on how you want to play the family.I definitely would like more toddler toys. There aren't enough options right now.

I'd prefer babies get the features you're mentioning like a crib and crawling filling in the first 10 or so months instead of just playing as a newborn its entire life stage. Babies should develop learn and be able to fill in the huge gap neither they or toddlers currently offer which is pretty much crawling and everything else it took to get to being a walking talking toddler huge life steps are still missing.

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44 Replies

Purrloin9
7 years ago
Honestly, I whenever I think about TS4 toddlers, I always wonder what age they were going for. It seems like they're meant to be around 3, though certain elements of their skill progression make that seem off. But at the same time, I never played TS2 or 3 so I don't know what age those toddlers were meant to be either. I know that they crawled, but looking at video clips of them, they looked too old to be crawling to me (though that could just be the design). But I suppose that's off topic.

As for my answer, since we don't have that stage of a crawling, fully dependent, not tied to a bassinet life stage, it makes me long for one. I don't like how independent toddlers are in that they only need help with the potty skill and can otherwise take care of themselves (Unless they have the independent trait). Now, if we had better babies *cough like Freeplay's* that could learn to crawl, stand, walk, etc; I wouldn't mind older toddlers since it would feel like a natural progression. But if they're going to continue with babies being either an object or not allowing them to learn to crawl, I'd like much younger toddlers.
floridameerkat
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible.
xijet
7 years ago
"floridameerkat;c-17072058" wrote:
I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible.

Lots of people think they're too old for cribs because of their size and the fact that they can walk and do pretty much anything on their own. That's why there are hardly any crib mods. Bigger toddlers don't drink out of bottles and don't need changing tables. They will just look too big for any of that stuff, I'm afraid...
xijet
7 years ago
"ListentoToppDogg;c-17072052" wrote:
Honestly, I whenever I think about TS4 toddlers, I always wonder what age they were going for. It seems like they're meant to be around 3, though certain elements of their skill progression make that seem off. But at the same time, I never played TS2 or 3 so I don't know what age those toddlers were meant to be either. I know that they crawled, but looking at video clips of them, they looked too old to be crawling to me (though that could just be the design). But I suppose that's off topic.

As for my answer, since we don't have that stage of a crawling, fully dependent, not tied to a bassinet life stage, it makes me long for one. I don't like how independent toddlers are in that they only need help with the potty skill and can otherwise take care of themselves (Unless they have the independent trait). Now, if we had better babies *cough like Freeplay's* that could learn to crawl, stand, walk, etc; I wouldn't mind older toddlers since it would feel like a natural progression. But if they're going to continue with babies being either an object or not allowing them to learn to crawl, I'd like much younger toddlers.

I feel the same. If babies could do everything that Freeplay babies could, I would be more than satisfied with how the toddlers are currently. It's just... the whole 'taking care of someone smaller' aspect that isn't really as much there as it needs to be for me.
floridameerkat
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
"horselover1;c-17072063" wrote:
"floridameerkat;c-17072058" wrote:
I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible.

Lots of people think they're too old for cribs because of their size and the fact that they can walk and do pretty much anything on their own. That's why there are hardly any crib mods. Bigger toddlers don't drink out of bottles and don't need changing tables. They will just look too big for any of that stuff, I'm afraid...

As long as everything is proportional, I don't see the issue. And all of it could be optional. Don't want to use a changing table? Potty train them. Don't want them to drink out of a bottle? Don't give them one. Feed them like we do now. Don't want a crib? Get a toddler bed. Everything would depend on how you want to play the family.

I definitely would like more toddler toys. There aren't enough options right now.
xijet
7 years ago
"floridameerkat;c-17072071" wrote:
"horselover1;c-17072063" wrote:
"floridameerkat;c-17072058" wrote:
I like them the way they are, but I'd still like all the other things you mentioned, like the option of a bed or a crib, or giving them a bottle, changing their diaper, going for a walk in a stroller, etc. I don't see why they need to be younger for any of this to be possible.

Lots of people think they're too old for cribs because of their size and the fact that they can walk and do pretty much anything on their own. That's why there are hardly any crib mods. Bigger toddlers don't drink out of bottles and don't need changing tables. They will just look too big for any of that stuff, I'm afraid...

As long as everything is proportional, I don't see the issue. And all of it could be optional. Don't want to use a changing table? Potty train them. Don't want them to drink out of a bottle? Don't give them one. Feed them like we do now. Don't want a crib? Get a toddler bed. Everything would depend on how you want to play the family.

I definitely would like more toddler toys. There aren't enough options right now.

Yeah, that's a good middleground at least. Options!
ChadSims2
Seasoned Rookie
7 years ago
I'd prefer babies get the features you're mentioning like a crib and crawling filling in the first 10 or so months instead of just playing as a newborn its entire life stage. Babies should develop learn and be able to fill in the huge gap neither they or toddlers currently offer which is pretty much crawling and everything else it took to get to being a walking talking toddler huge life steps are still missing.
Sharooonia
Seasoned Ace
7 years ago
I like them as they are. I like that they can learn to walk and talk by themselves over time and that they aren't quite as dependent on the parents to learn things like walking, potty training and eating.

What I think would be better is for the baby stage to last longer and have some kind of visual progression like we have with babies in real life. A baby will start out as they do now but eventually they grow into more active babies that can leave their bassinet, sit up and even play with simple toys but they still rely on the parents for everything such as feeding, cleaning and diaper changes and they will eventually progress into a crib for sleeping. In real life there is a huge difference between a newborn baby and a baby that is a year old but it's still is a baby. Sims 4 and all the previous versions of the sims do babies so badly. They aren't just inanimate objects in real life. The problem is with babies not toddlers.
HypsieOrigin
Rising Veteran
7 years ago
I guess I would prefer more progression in toddlers, like crawling and bottles until level 2 or 3 of movement skill, and cribs until they learn to walk, etc.... To be perfectly honest i don't spend much time on toddler and baby life stages so all in all I'm ok with things the way they are.
scaryokegaming
7 years ago
I already struggle with toddlers enough as is lol - I can't imagine having them even MORE dependent. That said, I would love to see 100 baby challenges with a more dependent life stage. I can always age up my toddlers whenever.