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Re: Huge power losses living off the grid with nealy nothing that could drain this.

@LeCheffre That’s the same fridge I’m using. It says it has a power consumption rating of “1” but I don’t think it says anywhere how it uses that to calculate power production.

What do you think “1” means? 1 unit all day? Or 1 every hour or minute? A fridge is constantly drawing power non-stop.

I if I didn’t have my solar panel making +7, then that means the fridge was actually using -24 units per day, which then means 1 unit per hour.

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LeCheffre
5 years ago
@simvasion I agree on what you say. But I believe it is per day. Because when generating power on my harbor lot. The power generator is 4: The fridge is minus 1. And I have a surpluss of +3 storage per 24 hours. Sometimes bit less, sometimes bit more ( depending when I use the laptop or lightning) The identical lot on sulani generates ridiculous ammounts in the minus. As said. Both lots are identical and behave differently. And if my lot on sulani would produce minus 5 or 6.... I would find it wierd. Because both lots are identical. But okay. But minus 88 as soon I have 1 power in storage, depleting everything. Does not seem right.
simvasion
Hero
5 years ago
@LeCheffre until you have any power in storage, none of the appliances are using full power mode - they’re all doing zero consumption. So the bills will show a power surplus.

When you get power in storage, all of the appliances then turn on and start using full power as they would do on the grid, which is when you will see what their true usage is.

Can you test removing the off the grid traits from both lots and see what the power usage is when both lots are on the grid?
LeCheffre
5 years ago
@simvasion Right so I might have discovered the "issue" here. Geothermal lot trait. Apparently I have it on my harbor lot but not on my sulani lot. And it really seems to make the difference here. I did what u asked. Put off the grind and on. With geothermal there is a surplus of what I would expect. With no geothermal on both lots. They go deep in the red while still only having one fridge. In my opinion it still does not make sense. But having geothermal on the sulani lot now makes me able to make and store power again.

However... now that I " fixed" this. I still strongly disagree with how power works. There is no way one fridge needs 10 sun panels or 4 power generators to stay equal on usages --> generated. My inreallife house has 6 sunpanels and most days we actaully stay equal or even sell back to the power company on fair days. The power usage of items or generation from the sunpanels is actually very poorly. They need to atleast double if not triple the generation...The only way power generating seems fair is with the geothermal lot trait. Anyways...But what I say now is something else and lingers from my original post. and would be feedback instead.

Thank you anyway. I will continue to test obviously with the geothermal trait.
simvasion
Hero
5 years ago
@LeCheffre it's good to know! I haven't played enough to form an opinion on the power and water consumption yet. It may be balanced to start like this, but get better and improve depending on having multiple features of the pack in play, like the eco-footprints giving more or less power, using eco-upgrades on the fridge to make it better, upgrading the solar panels, enabling NAPs that make it better, etc.