We are now five years into the Sims 4 come September and we've seen countless mods and CC made for it. I know a lot of you don 't use mods and some just use CC, but once you put your foot into the modding community its easy to find "another" mod then another mod you can't live without. For me that comes down to one specific creator named Luumia who's created a wide range of great mods, for me those are the height choices which I use for teens and noblu+noglu which "fixes" Maxis weird dramatic use of blue lighting indoors and the glow sims have that makes them shiny.Yesterdays patch changed many elements of the Sims 4 and broke a lot of script mods. Its wonderful to see so many creators jump to fix their mods, but using Luumia in example doesn't appear to be active anymore. He hasn't made a social media post in 5 months and it looks like he might have retired from modding - but you never know. What that means is his great mods could be dead.The Sims 4 has a huge catalog of mods that have been long abandoned since it was released 5 years ago. Many of those original modders have simple moved on and their mods broken forever. Some mods are remade and some simply not.With the game expected to continue development for the next 3 years I don't expect a lot of our current modders to be around unless they are die hard players or funded on patreon and even then that paycheck doesn't mean they will stay. Six months is a long time but 3 years is a lifetime for others.What this has demonstrated to me, is the need for a "guide for dummies" to updating broken mods. Especially script mods, that way anybody in the community could fix a broken mod thats been abandoned. Otherwise I have a feeling a lot of the mods we enjoy today might not work in a year let alone four or five.

Luumia is great, I love his body hair CC. He seems to have spurts of activity from what I can tell, but has been quiet for a while.Thinking back, there are so many awesome mods and pieces of CC I picked up over the years that sadly just never got updated.

Pretty sure modthesims.info has modding and scripting guides. I've been on that site since the Sims 2 came out when it used to be called modthesims2.com and where my username was born. One thing I've learned about the modding community is that it has always been tight knit and community driven. Where one modder leaves off, another one has picked up usually. There is even a section on that site to ask for mods to be updated or made it is pretty neat. But yes if forums ever did get as detailed as the modthesims site is, that would be amazing, but then again the site has been around longer then this iteration of forums, so there has been time to improve and build upon. Sorry about your favorite mods being broken. I'm still waiting for some by Zerbu to get updated from many patches ago.

"GGgkkg;c-17121703" wrote:Luumia is great, I love his body hair CC. He seems to have spurts of activity from what I can tell, but has been quiet for a while.Thinking back, there are so many awesome mods and pieces of CC I picked up over the years that sadly just never got updated.I also use his body hair CC and luckily being CC it will probably always work or can be easily fixed with Sims studio. Too bad mods weren't as easy to fix. Hopefully he comes back to update his mods."Sindocat;c-17121709" wrote:This has always been true across all games that support custom content. What I do tend to see in the TS3 community, however, are sub-communities like NRaas Studio where, when a modder retires, others take up their work. Sadly, a lot of content ends up orphaned.The Sims 3 community is pretty tight, partially because its maintained by a loyal player base of modders and the fact that the game remains popular. Even on steam it hits daily player counts over 4000."Scobre;c-17121713" wrote:Pretty sure modthesims.info has modding and scripting guides. Sorry about your favorite mods being broken. I'm still waiting for some by Zerbu to get updated from many patches ago.I'm going to check out the scripting guides later this week, I'm crossing my fingers Luumia returns and fixes his mods but I'll give myself a little lesson in that time just in case. Eventually I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and install the update to play Island Living.

This happens in many modding communities - the massive Bethesda ones chiefly among them. Any game with staying power will see popular modders come and go, and newcomers usually arrive on the scene to pick up the mantle, whether it’s to create brand new mods or to take the reins and bring older mods up to date. We see the latter example quite a bit at ModTheSims.There are plenty of abandoned mods from 3-4 years ago that have since been replaced by better alternatives. And some of the largest scale mods for the game have only arrived in the last year or so.I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

Oh I forgot speaking about Zerbu, he does have a mod constructor program if ever you want to give modding a go: https://zerbu.tumblr.com/post/181782526135/the-sims-4-mod-constructor-v4I haven't tried it myself and most I was able to learn is how to recolor hair and objects which wasn't an easy task. Gimp 2 is also great and is free for creating art for CC.

The long term stability of modding community isn't pretty

WaitWhatYT
6 years ago
Luumia is great, I love his body hair CC. He seems to have spurts of activity from what I can tell, but has been quiet for a while.

Thinking back, there are so many awesome mods and pieces of CC I picked up over the years that sadly just never got updated.
Scobren
6 years ago
Pretty sure modthesims.info has modding and scripting guides. I've been on that site since the Sims 2 came out when it used to be called modthesims2.com and where my username was born. One thing I've learned about the modding community is that it has always been tight knit and community driven. Where one modder leaves off, another one has picked up usually. There is even a section on that site to ask for mods to be updated or made it is pretty neat. But yes if forums ever did get as detailed as the modthesims site is, that would be amazing, but then again the site has been around longer then this iteration of forums, so there has been time to improve and build upon. Sorry about your favorite mods being broken. I'm still waiting for some by Zerbu to get updated from many patches ago.
WolvesCreek
New Spectator
6 years ago
"GGgkkg;c-17121703" wrote:
Luumia is great, I love his body hair CC. He seems to have spurts of activity from what I can tell, but has been quiet for a while.

Thinking back, there are so many awesome mods and pieces of CC I picked up over the years that sadly just never got updated.

I also use his body hair CC and luckily being CC it will probably always work or can be easily fixed with Sims studio. Too bad mods weren't as easy to fix. Hopefully he comes back to update his mods.

"Sindocat;c-17121709" wrote:
This has always been true across all games that support custom content. What I do tend to see in the TS3 community, however, are sub-communities like NRaas Studio where, when a modder retires, others take up their work. Sadly, a lot of content ends up orphaned.

The Sims 3 community is pretty tight, partially because its maintained by a loyal player base of modders and the fact that the game remains popular. Even on steam it hits daily player counts over 4000.

"Scobre;c-17121713" wrote:
Pretty sure modthesims.info has modding and scripting guides. Sorry about your favorite mods being broken. I'm still waiting for some by Zerbu to get updated from many patches ago.

I'm going to check out the scripting guides later this week, I'm crossing my fingers Luumia returns and fixes his mods but I'll give myself a little lesson in that time just in case.

Eventually I'm gonna have to bite the bullet and install the update to play Island Living.
bsozz
6 years ago
This happens in many modding communities - the massive Bethesda ones chiefly among them. Any game with staying power will see popular modders come and go, and newcomers usually arrive on the scene to pick up the mantle, whether it’s to create brand new mods or to take the reins and bring older mods up to date. We see the latter example quite a bit at ModTheSims.

There are plenty of abandoned mods from 3-4 years ago that have since been replaced by better alternatives. And some of the largest scale mods for the game have only arrived in the last year or so.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
Scobren
6 years ago
Oh I forgot speaking about Zerbu, he does have a mod constructor program if ever you want to give modding a go: https://zerbu.tumblr.com/post/181782526135/the-sims-4-mod-constructor-v4

I haven't tried it myself and most I was able to learn is how to recolor hair and objects which wasn't an easy task. Gimp 2 is also great and is free for creating art for CC.
WolvesCreek
New Spectator
6 years ago
"So_Money;c-17121734" wrote:

There are plenty of abandoned mods from 3-4 years ago that have since been replaced by better alternatives. And some of the largest scale mods for the game have only arrived in the last year or so.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

I'm not worried about it, I'm sad about it and what I'd like to see is an easy way to update them. I'm looking at guides (I might even write one after I try to fix the mods) not only for myself but to share.

Its too bad EA doesn't release its own modding tools, not only would that allow for them to be updated along with the tools with new patches but create a easier way to make mods based on EA tool set and guide.
WolvesCreek
New Spectator
6 years ago
"Scobre;c-17121736" wrote:
Oh I forgot speaking about Zerbu, he does have a mod constructor program if ever you want to give modding a go: https://zerbu.tumblr.com/post/181782526135/the-sims-4-mod-constructor-v4

I haven't tried it myself and most I was able to learn is how to recolor hair and objects which wasn't an easy task. Gimp 2 is also great and is free for creating art for CC.

Actually creating some CC is very easy, its more graphics work then anything and then learning Sims Studio 4. I have Gimp and have used it to make tattoo's ect. It takes more time actually doing the work in gimp or photoshop then it does converting it into CC.

I'm currently learning how to mesh together two skin overlays I really love. I might be forced to learn how to fix mods next though by next week too though lol.
bsozz
6 years ago
"TOLKIEN;c-17121740" wrote:
"So_Money;c-17121734" wrote:

There are plenty of abandoned mods from 3-4 years ago that have since been replaced by better alternatives. And some of the largest scale mods for the game have only arrived in the last year or so.

I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

I'm not worried about it, I'm sad about it and what I'd like to see is an easy way to update them. I'm looking at guides (I might even write one after I try to fix the mods) not only for myself but to share.

Its too bad EA doesn't release its own modding tools, not only would that allow for them to be updated along with the tools with new patches but create a easier way to make mods based on EA tool set and guide.

Even if lay people don’t have the tools to step in, you can imagine that there’s someone out there who feels the same way you do, and just happens to have the technical know-how and experience to do something about it.
OEII1001
New Spectator
6 years ago
This is standard for any game that has ongoing support, and it is always why I consider significant mods to be pointless until the final patch is released.
elelunicy
New Spectator
6 years ago
"TOLKIEN;d-961126" wrote:
What this has demonstrated to me, is the need for a "guide for dummies" to updating broken mods. Especially script mods, that way anybody in the community could fix a broken mod thats been abandoned. Otherwise I have a feeling a lot of the mods we enjoy today might not work in a year let alone four or five.

There isn’t a "guide for dummies" to updating broken mods in general because there are many different types of mods out there and there are many different ways a mod can break. Sometimes even the original mod creator could take a long time to research a way to fix their own mod.