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infinite101_'s avatar
2 years ago

(2024) Sims 4 Crashes Before Title Screen - Customer Service Didn't Help

So, I haven't played Sims properly in a couple of years and really want to play it on my birthday just over a week from now 😩

Here's what happened:

  1. I downloaded the EA App once I found out Origin was discontinued
  2. I tried to play it but it always crashes before I can even try to play (right after the Sims 4 logo animation)
  3. I've uninstalled & reinstalled both the EA App and Sims 4 like 5 times, I've turned off one drive syncing, I've repaired the game, restarted my PC, fit the system requirements etc.
  4. Customer service just sent me a bunch of generic links and barely helped which was great
  5. I've attached a video & DxDiag file (bc I saw others do it), but if you need any more information, I'll give it
  6. If you help me, I'll bake you virtual cupcakes in any flavour you like 🧁✨

7 Replies

  • @infinite101_  A dxdiag is always appreciated for a crashing issue.  Yours only lists one Sims 4 crash, and that crash looks like it's related to conflicting software.  So please try playing immediately after restarting your computer, with nothing else running aside from the EA App.  Please also make sure your indirect display software is disabled; check the Task Manager as well as the Tray.  Sims 4 sometimes reacts badly to this kind of software.

    If that doesn't help, please try playing in a clean boot:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows-da2f9573-6eec-00ad-2f8a-a97a1807f3dd

    The one service to leave enabled is the EABackgroundService, which the EA App needs in order to run.  Disable the rest as described.

    When you reboot your computer, go through the Task Manager's background processes list shutting down any service that doesn't absolutely need to be running, for example anything from MSI Afterburner to RGB software might still be enabled.  If you accidentally kill a critical process and it doesn't restart on its own, just reboot your computer again.

    Don't open anything other than Sims 4 and the EA App while testing, not even a browser window.

  • infinite101_'s avatar
    infinite101_
    2 years ago

    OK, I finally got around to doing this and...nothing changed. I did find out, though, that the file that's failing is called 'ntdll.dll'

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @infinite101_  The ntdll.dll file is part of Windows, and such an essential part that it's unlikely to be corrupt given that your computer is working overall.  This is probably about some other resource that calls the .dll file instead.  Still, you can try running a couple of basic checks on your Windows system files:

    • Hit Windows key-X
    • Choose either “PowerShell (Administrator)” or “Windows Terminal (Administrator),” whichever option is offered
    • Inside the window that appears, copy and paste “DISM.exe /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth” without quotes, and enter
    • The system will start validating soon. If it throws an error, please list it here
    • After it reaches 100%, hit Windows key-X again
    • Again, choose “PowerShell (Administrator)” or “Windows Terminal (Administrator)”
    • Inside the window, copy and paste “sfc /scannow” without quotes, and enter
    • Post the message you receive here

    Restart your computer, hit Windows key-i, select Update & Security, and click the box to check for updates.  If any install, restart again afterwards.

    Please keep testing in a clean boot, at least for now.  If this doesn't help, please look for new errors in the Reliability Monitor.  Hit Windows key-R and enter "perfmon /rel" without quotes, and you'll see a chart of errors and updates with a column for each day.  Today is on the right.

    Look for an error that happened at exactly the time of your most recent attempt to launch Sims 4, specifically after running DISM and sfc.  If you find one, double-click it to see more details, then copy that info and paste it into a reply here.  If you don't see a new error, check back in an hour or so—the Reliability Monitor doesn't always update right away.

  • infinite101_'s avatar
    infinite101_
    2 years ago

    Here's the message!

    'PS C:\Users\(username)> sfc /scannow

    Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

    Beginning verification phase of system scan.
    Verification 100% complete.

    Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.'

    My PC is completely updated. I did another clean boot, and closed all of the bg processes - except from the ones saying 'access denied' like 'Antimalware Core Service' or that just kept coming back within a few seconds. This reliability monitor shows what happened after I did the first clean boot at 1 am (when I replied) and now at 1 pm. (I'm having the same issues with Gotham Knights, so I thought I'd try starting it too after I was finished running Sims 4).

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @infinite101_  Please right-click one of the "Sims 4 stopped working" entries, select View technical details, copy the info you see there, and paste it into a reply here.  Then check the other Sims 4 entries too.  If they're all the same error, you can just say so.  If you see a different error, I'd like that as well.

    As for the other errors, I'm only interested if they happened while you were trying to play Sims 4.  It's a bit worrisome that you have so many system errors too, although that might be a relic of trying to kill some processes in the Task Manager.  But let's start with the Sims 4 errors and go from there.

  • infinite101_'s avatar
    infinite101_
    2 years ago

    Here's the most recent 'Sims 4 stopped working' entry: 

    'Source
    The Sims™ 4

    Summary
    Stopped working

    Date
    ‎16/‎06/‎2024 13:02

    Status
    Report sent

    Description
    Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files\EA Games\The Sims 4\Game\Bin\TS4_DX9_x64.exe

    Problem signature
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: TS4_DX9_x64.exe
    Application Version: 1.107.151.1020
    Application Timestamp: 665a58a3
    Fault Module Name: StackHash_7828
    Fault Module Version: 10.0.22621.3733
    Fault Module Timestamp: 67ca8829
    Exception Code: c0000374
    Exception Offset: PCH_B6_FROM_ntdll+0x00000000000A0AF4
    OS Version: 10.0.22621.2.0.0.768.101
    Locale ID: 2057
    Additional Information 1: 7828
    Additional Information 2: 7828e88ea226f37507d3dd102fa1e6c9
    Additional Information 3: 4f80
    Additional Information 4: 4f80e046c534aa31ffcbc717b85fab21

    Extra information about the problem
    Bucket ID: 4d4aa31db8b9271bfd8449e5a93e229a (2126906174761476762)'

    Yup, all the errors are 'APPCRASH's

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @infinite101_  This is the same kind of error that I was hoping would be resolved with a clean boot.  Since that hasn't happened, and given the other errors in the Reliability Monitor, I'd suggest running a repair install of Windows.  Here's how (option two):

    https://www.elevenforum.com/t/repair-install-windows-11-with-an-in-place-upgrade.418/

    This shouldn't delete any of your data, but if you get to step 14 and are NOT asked to keep personal files and apps, back out and start over.

    Once you've run the repair install and restarted your computer, please try playing normally, with the Sims 4 folder removed from Documents > Electronic Arts.  If you get another crash, please try the clean boot again.  If that doesn't help either, try the clean boot but with your computer offline.  You can sign into the EA App and put it in offline mode, then disable wifi and/or disconnect the ethernet cable before pressing Play.