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Best hardware for sims 4..?

Hello, currently I play TheSims4 on an 5 year old Laptop. This works only with no DLCs or small save datas. For larger save games I have big troubles with performance and also more bugs.

I plan to buy a new computer or laptop next year.  Can you tell me which is the best hardware for Sims 4 so far (with nearly all DLCs installed) and if a better/newer laptop could handle it or is an "normal" pc necessary? 

Many thanks for our help!

  • 458c1c983daa2be4​  Sims 4 is not demanding by the standards of gaming laptops or desktops.  So if you bought a new-ish, proper gaming machine of any flavor, you'd be fine.  The trick is to find one that actually has gaming hardware, not just one that's advertised as great for gaming but without the components to follow through.

    The shortcut here is to buy a system with a dedicated graphics card from the last couple of generations.  Manufacturers won't pair a fast GPU with other hardware that can't keep up.  For Nvidia, any 40- or 50-series GPU is more than fast enough to run Sims 4 on ultra graphics settings, as are the 3060 and above; an RTX 3050 is good enough if you don't plan on using high-resolution custom content or ReShade or anything similar.  Avoid the much-slower 2050.

    AMD dedicated graphics cards are more rare in the laptop space but common enough in desktops.  Look up the part number of the GPU, for example RX 7600 XT, to see whether you can buy it alone.  If you can, it's a dedicated card.  Anything from the 7000 series and newer is fine; for older cards, I wouldn't go lower than an RX 6600 or 6600M.

    If your budget won't fit a dedicated card, some high-end integrated graphics chips are also fast enough to run Sims 4 on at least high settings.  But figuring out what iGPU you're getting can be complicated, so I'd rather make specific recommendations or look over product pages for specific models you're considering.  It's too easy to buy a slightly different configuration and wind up with a chip that's only half as fast as what you thought you were getting.

    When you're ready to buy, you can post your budget and country, as well as any other considerations that matter to you, and I can find some good options.  Or you can do your own shopping and post links to the models you're considering for a second opinion.

    In any case, you're not going to see a real benefit from spending more than about $1,200 U.S. or possibly a bit more in other countries, and you can get almost all possible performance out of a good option in the $900-1000 range, sometimes even a bit less.

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  • 458c1c983daa2be4​  Sims 4 is not demanding by the standards of gaming laptops or desktops.  So if you bought a new-ish, proper gaming machine of any flavor, you'd be fine.  The trick is to find one that actually has gaming hardware, not just one that's advertised as great for gaming but without the components to follow through.

    The shortcut here is to buy a system with a dedicated graphics card from the last couple of generations.  Manufacturers won't pair a fast GPU with other hardware that can't keep up.  For Nvidia, any 40- or 50-series GPU is more than fast enough to run Sims 4 on ultra graphics settings, as are the 3060 and above; an RTX 3050 is good enough if you don't plan on using high-resolution custom content or ReShade or anything similar.  Avoid the much-slower 2050.

    AMD dedicated graphics cards are more rare in the laptop space but common enough in desktops.  Look up the part number of the GPU, for example RX 7600 XT, to see whether you can buy it alone.  If you can, it's a dedicated card.  Anything from the 7000 series and newer is fine; for older cards, I wouldn't go lower than an RX 6600 or 6600M.

    If your budget won't fit a dedicated card, some high-end integrated graphics chips are also fast enough to run Sims 4 on at least high settings.  But figuring out what iGPU you're getting can be complicated, so I'd rather make specific recommendations or look over product pages for specific models you're considering.  It's too easy to buy a slightly different configuration and wind up with a chip that's only half as fast as what you thought you were getting.

    When you're ready to buy, you can post your budget and country, as well as any other considerations that matter to you, and I can find some good options.  Or you can do your own shopping and post links to the models you're considering for a second opinion.

    In any case, you're not going to see a real benefit from spending more than about $1,200 U.S. or possibly a bit more in other countries, and you can get almost all possible performance out of a good option in the $900-1000 range, sometimes even a bit less.

  • 458c1c983daa2be4's avatar
    458c1c983daa2be4
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    21 days ago

    Wow, many Thanks! This is so helpful!

    Honestly I cant tell when I'm ready to buy, but I like to have something special in mind before. This gives me more motivation for saving. I also had something like 1000-1200€ in mind (Im based in Germany),. Otherwise I will  get it sooner or I will keep saving longer. I'm not in a hurry here.

    So, I looked up a few laptop and desktops for gaming and I noticed one huge difference: Most laptops start with 16gb RAM while the desktops start mostly 32gb RAM  (with same GPU and in the same price category). Between 16GB and 32GB RAM on laptops are a huge price gap. My question here: is it worth it? If this doesn't make a big difference, I rather choose a laptop. If 32GB are important I may go with a desktop.

    If you have time to check: GIGABYTE GAMING A16 3VHK3DE894SH   is a laptop that i found based on you description. About 1000€ in Germany and a similar model with 32GB RAM ist about 1800€.

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    458c1c983daa2be4
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    21 days ago

    Oh, and I may should mention that I like legacy gameplay which make me have up to 300 played households in a single save data. I'm pretty aware that this is a problem for the "old" engine of sims4 itself, but I don't want to have extra issues because of my hardware additionally. 

  • 458c1c983daa2be4​  You don't need more than 16 GB memory to run Sims 4.  In fact, the game is so unstable when it's using more than 8-10 GB itself (depending on why it's using so much) that you're heading for a crash and maybe a corrupt save anyway.  So as long as you don't want to run other memory-intensive programs alongside the game, you'll be fine with 16 GB.

    Gaming laptops almost always support RAM upgrades as well, should you decide you need more memory in a few years.  And memory is relatively cheap and getting cheaper all the time.  If you have a specific model in mind, you can google "[model number] add RAM" and look at the Crucial site.  I'm not suggesting you necessarily buy from Crucial, but if the site lists compatible RAM, you know that the laptop would allow you to add or swap out modules.

    For the specific laptop you've found, I'd like a link to the product page because the product numbers don't always tell the whole story.  (And in this case, it looks like a model specific to the EU, so I'm seeing a lot of unrelated suggestions rather than the actual configuration.)  I will say that the cheaper Gigabyte gaming laptops tend to run on the loud side, nothing that you can't block out with headphones but more than average for the category.  But that doesn't mean this laptop is too loud for you.

    Your budget should be more than enough to get a great system for Sims 4.  When you're ready to buy, feel free to come back with links or a request for suggestions.  I also have a friend on this site who lives in Germany and loves to talk about hardware, so if you'd like information about specific stores or anything else I wouldn't know about, just say so and I'll ask if he has anything to add.

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    458c1c983daa2be4
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    19 days ago

    puzzlezaddict​ Many thanks again :)

    https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_gigabyte-gaming-a16-3vhk3de894sh-16-zoll-ryzentm-7-260-16-gb-1-tb-nvidia-geforce-rtxtm-5060-windows-11-home-3014253.html

    this is 1000€ model. RAM upgrades are doable here. 

    It says processor clock frequency is 3,8GHz in normal mode and 5,1GHz overclocked. This looks pretty good to me (?) 

    I don't care if it's a bit noisy, but I'm afraid that it gets very fast very hot. Usually I play 1-2h before I quit or take a break. The model I currently use feels like it gonna burst up to flames after 20 minutes. If its possible, I want to avoid that.

     

     

    https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_gigabyte-aorus-elite-16-gaming-laptop-16-zoll-165hz-qhd-intel-core-ultra-9-275hx-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-gpu-ddr5-dolby-atmos-dolby-vision-16-zoll-coretm-ultra-9-275hx-32-gb-1-tb-nvidia-geforce-rtxtm-5070-windows-11-pro-3011724.html

    And this is the more expensive one. This one has an Intel processor with 24 cores. I guess this is the main difference..? As I remember Sims 4 requires 5 cores. If this is true, I don't see any benefit here.

  • 458c1c983daa2be4​  Sims 4 itself only uses four CPU cores, so I guess the requirement for five is so that the OS and other processes can use the other core without diverting resources from the game.  What matters for most games is the CPU's single-core rating, maybe dual-core as well, as these are a measure of how quickly one core or thread can accomplish tasks.  So you'd need to sort through a lot of irrelevant benchmarks to find the useful information.

    In this case, the Intel CPU is almost twice as fast as the AMD model overall, but the Intel CPU also has so many more cores that it's not a valid comparison.  From what I can find quickly, the single-core gap is more like 20%, still in favor of Intel, which is not insignificant but also not as stark as the multi-core gap.

    However, both these processors are more than fast enough to keep up with the graphics cards in the laptops.  What that means is that the GPU is the limiting factor, not the CPU.  The relative difference in CPUs will come into play either never or only briefly—for example, the game might take 1.2 seconds to resolve some hangup rather than 1.0 seconds.  But given how performant both are, any delays that are based on the CPU (as opposed to the GPU or, more commonly, the game itself) are going to be relatively small and infrequent.  So I don't think you need to consider the difference in processors at all, at least not where Sims 4 is concerned.

    I also don't think you need the power of an RTX 5070, or really even a 5060, although the price on the cheaper one is great.  So if you're happy with this laptop and its price, and you're not worried about noise, go ahead and get it.  The laptop will be able to cool itself effectively, you don't need to worry about that or about taking frequent breaks.  But if you want, you can look into a cooling tray or fan in the future.  They're not that expensive, but some aren't all that effective either, so check reviews that list laptops' hardware temperatures with and without the product.