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Hi Both, I have been having the exact same problem. My sims has been running slow for a while but it keeps lagging now. For example the kids are suppose to go to school at 8am but the time is lagging so they end up going to school at 12pm and come back at like 8pm instead. I have updated by drivers multiple times like the Sims twitter told me to after I tweeted at them. Here is the diag file attached like you are asking for above.
@Hrrng327 Just to clarify, there are two separate issues here. The first is that you currently only have 4 GB free storage. That's not nearly enough for Windows to maneuver, let alone run a game like Sims 4, and it could certainly account for all the lag you're seeing. Please uninstall any programs you don't currently use, and move any files you don't need, including backup saves, to an external hard drive or flash drive. A good goal is 20 GB free, although a bit less is usually fine as long as you're not updating your operating system.
The other issue is that your hardware is not strong enough for TS4's more demanding packs. Neither your processor nor its integrated graphics chip is strong enough to handle the more recent expansions (e.g. Seasons, Island Living), and your computer might not be able to run them at all. Game packs and the early expansion packs are less demanding, although they do require more resources to run than the base game alone. Stuff packs only add minimal overhead.
Additionally, the cumulative effect of many packs will also stress your hardware more than just the base game. Even adding a few low-impact packs may make a significant difference in how the game runs. So if you're thinking of buying a few, please keep in mind that your computer is already likely close to the limit of what it can effectively handle.
The other consideration, if you want more packs, is that they'll take up some of that storage you're freeing up. Normally this isn't an issue, since even an EP will only take a couple of GB, but with the small margin you have, you'll need to watch your free storage carefully. The product page for each pack lists the amount of storage it will take once installed.
Edit to add: There are other issues you'll want to address regarding your graphics card. Its driver is out of date, which can be addressed easily enough. And it would help to allocate more memory to the card, although you'd need to be comfortable changing the setting in BIOS. You'd also see a benefit from installing more RAM, especially if you do allocate a larger share to the graphics card.
Once you've increased the amout of free storage, let me know if you're interested in making any other changes. At the very least, it's a good idea to update the graphics card driver.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Hi thanks for the info. I have updated my laptop and got rid of some files and older windows updates (windows notification asked to delete it). I now have 20.3GB free.
Please can you explain how to do what you said below?
"Edit to add: There are other issues you'll want to address regarding your graphics card. Its driver is out of date, which can be addressed easily enough. And it would help to allocate more memory to the card, although you'd need to be comfortable changing the setting in BIOS. You'd also see a benefit from installing more RAM, especially if you do allocate a larger share to the graphics card." - puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 There are three different issues here. The first is that you should update your graphics card driver. This is easy: download the new driver for your card from Intel. This is the graphics driver for your processor (your card is integrated into the processor):
Please make sure you get the Windows 10 64-bit version, not the 32-bit.
Adding more memory to your computer would help its performance, both in Sims 4 and in general. Your laptop is upgradable, and RAM is not that expensive these days. For example, here's what Crucial offers for your model:
The one thing you need to be careful about is making sure all of the specs on the new RAM stick match what you already have installed. The easiest thing to do is usually to buy an identical stick to the one you already have (check your user manual or the serial number on the RAM). Some people just replace everything at once. If you're not comfortable handling this yourself, you can always take the laptop to a computer store and have someone help you.
Finally, there are a couple of ways to allow your graphics card to use more memory for itself, which will help its performance. The simpler way is to change the settings in BIOS, but messing with BIOS settings isn't for everyone. Plus, if you allocated more memory to the card without installing more RAM overall, you could actually see worse performance, and there wouldn't be enough memory left over for Windows and Sims 4.
It should be said though that all of these interventions will only take your laptop so far. Its hardware is still quite underpowered for Sims 4, and no matter what you do, it will still struggle with the more demanding expansion packs (e.g. Seasons, Island Living), as well as a large number of gentler packs. So before you invest too much time and effort (and money) into trying to improve this laptop, you might want to think about whether it's worth it for only a moderate improvement in gameplay.
- 6 years ago
@puzzlezaddictHi thanks for the info. I tried to download a new driver from the link you sent but I don't know if its the right one as when I saved and ran it , it came up with error message basically saying it cant be installed on my computer (see attached screenshot)
I downloaded this one off the link you sent me but I don't know if it is right.
win64_15.40.42.5063.exe
Windows 10, 64-bit*
Windows 8.1, 64-bit*
Windows 7, 64-bit*
Language: Multi language
Size: 201.54 MB
MD5: edd5590ed573e14855784da621205a39
Please help with which one I need please? - puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 Apparently HP software is blocking your ability to download the driver yourself. So you'll need to go to HP's own site, enter your serial number, and find the graphics driver for your card.
https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/laptops
Since I don't have your serial number, I can't search the site for your product number, and I therefore can't tell you if HP is offering a newer one than what you already have. Yours is dated October 16, 2017. If HP doesn't have a newer driver listed, there probably isn't a point in doing a clean install of the current one.
- 6 years ago
Sorry to bother you again but I tried downloading one and my computer says it cannot download it because of system requirements I think. Attached is list of available ones- I tried to download the newest one.
- 6 years ago
Never mind I figured it out - I downloaded the February 2018 one. While im on that website do you think my computer needs anything else from there to run sims better?
Sorry to keep bothering you. - puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 Yes, it looks like the newest graphics driver is only for the newest Windows build, which you don't have yet. You could update if you wanted, but it's not strictly necessary, and the driver from 2018 should still be an improvement.
Could you link me the driver site directly? I'd like to look at the dates on the various downloads and compare them with what's in your dxdiag. The reason I didn't link that page to you myself is because HP makes it difficult to search without a serial number, but once you're on the right page, you can see everything.
And you're not bothering me at all. The people who help here do so because we enjoy it.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Okay i will send you the link but im at work at the moment so i will have to do it later if thats cool with you? Probably in about 8-9 hours
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Hey sorry to bother you cos you're probably busy but have you had the chance to look at the link yet?
- puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 Sorry, I got halfway through the list and then got distracted. It's not clear how many of the drivers listed would help your laptop run TS4 better, but the updates themselves shouldn't do any harm. It's also a good idea in general to update drivers to keep up with your operating system. Since your OS build is newer than some of your drivers, a few updates might be in order.
If you want to update BIOS, you should do this first. It's more complicated than simply downloading and installing though, so make sure you understand the process before starting. It also might not be necessary; I'm not the expert on this subject. You could also skip this step and come back to it later, if you want. At any rate, here are HP's instructions:
https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00042629
Next, or first if you skip the BIOS update, would be the chipset drivers. A few of them are quite out of date. You don't need to install the "Intel Installation Chipset Utility and Driver"—it's only there in case you need to reinstall Windows at some point. But these should be updated:
- Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework Client Driver (1809)
- Intel Management Engine Interface (1809)
- Intel Trusted Execution Engine Interface (1709/1803, since there isn't a newer one for 1809)
The others in the chipset category are older versions or for earlier Windows builds.
There's also an update for your touchpad, listed as Elan Touchpad Driver (1809), and an HP wireless button driver (1809), both listed under Keyboard, Mouse, and Input devices. But since these devices haven't thrown any obvious errors, and your existing drivers are not particularly out of date, I don't think it's necessary to install these.
The first firmware update may not be necessary, and the second one is for a different kind of hard drive than the one you have. So skip those. And the software updates aren't necessary either unless you want more of HP's software clogging up your system. I'd skip those too.
Finally, and this is very important, be sure to restart your computer after you install each driver. Download and install one at a time, then restart, then move on to the next one. It's a bit tedious, but it's the best way to make sure the updates go well.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict so i downloaded the first chipset but it wouldnt let me download the second one because of my system - not tried the rest yet
- puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 That's strange; those drivers are specifically meant for your computer. I take it you made sure to get the version for 1809, not one of the others?
At any rate, run all the drivers listed that you can, and leave the rest. None of these drivers are critical; the only one that really should be updated regularly is the graphics driver.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Okay thanks i will try that and tell you if the others dont know
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Hiya sorry not donwloaded the othere syet but just wondering if this is a good laptop for sims 4? https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-swift-1-sf114-32-14-intel-pentium-laptop-128-gb-ssd-silver-10184906-pdt.html?istCompanyId=bec25c7e-cbcd-460d-81d5-a25372d2e3d7&istFeedId=4d7eb93e-055f-499d-8ee5-1cdcc50d67d1&istItemId=wrlmiwamq&istBid=tztx&srcid=198&cmpid=ppc~gg~1011%20(PLA)%20Acer%20Laptop%20Top%20SKUs~1011%20(PLA)%20Acer%20Laptop%20Top%20SKUs%20ad%20group~Exact&mctag=gg_goog_7904&kwid=GOOGLE&device=c&ds_kids=92700045007592642&tgtid=1011%20(PLA)%20Acer%20Laptop%20Top%20SKUs&&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5rbsBRCFARIsAGEYRwdkKDEbxn_jGjrkBi9xpUryJfLUcmSEtK0NB-rRpqG5W3a3nS0yC3YaAtD9EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
- puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 No, sorry, it's only very slightly better than your current one, in that it's the newer version of the same hardware. Laptops that can run Sims 4 on high settings typically cost somewhere over £600; models that can handle medium settings are usually over £500. Buying a used model can save some money, but unless you're willing to take your chances with a site like Ebay, the savings would probably be small.
If you do decide to get a new laptop, now or later, feel free to ask for help picking something out. I could find a few good models, or list the hardware you should look for.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Hi again, So obviously the Uni trailer is coming out today and i dont think my laptop will handle it so can you help me find a good gaming laptop for like under £700?
- puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 You're right, your current laptop wouldn't handle any more expansion packs very well. But for £700, you can get a laptop that would handle all current packs on ultra graphics settings with room to spare.
The best model for you will depend in part on how much storage you want on your laptop. A single 256 GB hard drive will comfortably fit all Sims 4 packs plus all your saves, but it might not also fit other games (depending on their size), or large collections of music, photos, etc. If you have an external hard drive for these, it's not a big deal, but some people prefer to store everything internally. So I'm listing options both with small, fast solid state drives (SSDs) and with larger, slower mechanical drives (HDDs).
The lowest I'd go is this setup, for £600. The Asus has a 256 GB SSD, and the HP has a 1 TB HDD with Intel Optane memory to accelerate it, so it will be faster than a traditional HDD. Otherwise, these two laptops have the same hardware: a processor that's more than strong enough for Sims 4, and a graphics card that can handle all current packs on ultra settings. The Nvidia 1050 may not be able to maintain ultra settings as new expansions are released, but high settings should always be fine.
https://www.box.co.uk/FX504GD-E41275T-ASUS-TUF-FX504GD-E41275T_2458989.html
https://www.box.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-cx0999na_2485084.html
This HP, for £650, has an Nvidia 1050 ti, which is a bit stronger than the regular 1050. Its processor is slightly faster than the one in the two laptops above, and it has a 512 GB SSD, which is plenty of storage for most people. Unfortunately, it's back-ordered, and I don't know how soon you want the laptop to arrive. But if you can wait, it would certainly be a good choice.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-bc508na-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B07V38SGNR
For a bit more, you could get an Nvidia 1650, which is an even stronger card than the 1050 ti. It may or may not run all future Sims 4 packs on ultra settings, depending on how the game develops (we don't know for sure, of course). This laptop's processor is a bit weaker than the others, but it's still good enough for the game. This model comes with a 256 GB SSD for £680, or a 512 GB SSD for £730.
https://www.box.co.uk/FX505DT-AL086T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX505DT-AL086T_2550154.html
https://www.box.co.uk/FX705DT-AU042T-ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX705DT-AU042T_2561592.html
If you don't want to shop at that particular website, the 256 GB model is £700 on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Gaming-R5-3550H-GeForce-Windows/dp/B07S2ZLNS2
If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Alright thanks. Funnily enough the asus that you recommended was also recommended by the IT technician at work so i might get that one.
Also cute cat in your photo - 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict Hi again, so im trying to get my mum to get me the acer one for Christmas but she doesn't trust the box site so she sent me this link to one on Argos - does this one have good enough specs to run sims 4? If you can reply to me as soon as you can that would be great because she would need to order it soon as its limited stock and also money problems around Christmas
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8631622 - puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 The Argos websites you linked doesn't have a great selection. The laptop you linked isn't bad; it's the equivalent of the £630 HP laptop from box. In fact, a similar model is also £630 on Argos. The thing about this laptop is it doesn't have a solid state drive, so Windows would run slower, and most apps would load more slowly. Still, once an app like Sims 4 was loaded, it would run fine. Having the small SSD in the Acer you linked would be nicer, but it might not be worth the extra £70 to you.
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/1690000
But to get better hardware than these laptops on Argos, you'd need to spend over £800, which your mom probably doesn't want to do. On the other hand, if she's willing to consider Amazon, there are a couple of good options now available there. This HP is back-ordered a bit, but it's £625 and has a large solid state drive, so you'd get the benefits of the extra storage and the faster speed. Its processor and graphics card are essentially equivalent to the ones in the Acer you found and the HP above.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-bc508na-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B07V38SGNR
This Asus is £700 and has a much faster graphics card. Its processor is a bit weaker than the ones above, but still more than strong enough for Sims 4. Its solid state drive is smaller, but still large enough for all your Sims 4 content.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Gaming-R5-3550H-GeForce-Windows/dp/B07S2ZLNS2
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict yea unfortunately she wont consider amazon as she has like coupons and deals with argos where she can pay monthly for it instead of in one go. Is there only one good laptop that you have find on argos?
- puzzlezaddict6 years agoHero+
@Hrrng327 Yeah, the one you found is probably the best you're going to do on Argos, unless you go to £800 (for only a slightly better graphics card) or even £850. The laptop you're considering isn't bad at all, and it's certainly a massive upgrade over your current one. Just make sure to keep it elevated while you play, so it can cool itself properly. As long as it stays cool, it should at least be able to handle a mix of high and ultra graphics settings, even with all packs installed.
- 6 years ago@puzzlezaddict So spoke to argos and the one i sent you the link to is being disconnected and out of stock in my area. The link you sent - im guessing it is good but what do you think the downfalls of it are and are they easy to improve?
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