"Uhg, Family" moodlet?

Thanks @Andipoodle.🙂 I gave you some XP on your post for supplying me with pictures of what your talking about.  A picture really IS worth a thousand words! 😃

That is the area I thought the Chilhood Enemies title/status would be located at, but I just wanted to make sure. 😉 The print is too small in the picture for me to read under the Childhood Enemies title, so can you tell me what the description is?  That might help.  Also, do you remember how Adrian & Judas interacted when they were younger?  Did you make them fight, or did they do it automatically ?  Do you remember any particular incidents that might have led to this state they are in?  I'm thinking the Childhood Enemies status is what is giving you the Ugh Familiy moodlet all the time, but I want to know how they got to the point of being Childhood Enemies! Even though they don't live together anymore, it can still be helpful for us to know what causes this so we can either avoid it in the future, or fix it if possible.

So, Grim is off the toilet!  LOL  (I thought he might have Crohn's Disease or Ulcerative Colitis -- no laughing matter in real life 😢, but very funny to think of in the Sims, especially with it being the Grim Reaper! 😃 LOL)  Did he stop always using the toilet on his own, or did you figure out something to make him stop?  🤔

Thank you! and I know! I probably could never explain myself without screenshots! x_x
I believe when Adrian was a child he went through some phases and ended up having a low friendship bar with Judas. Probably even being enemies. As my second 'child' sim and first to grow up with a sibling, I didn't realize this might carry on to teenagehood. 

In the relationship bar it says: "Childhood Enemies: From A negative relationship with an ally sibling."
I don't really know what that means but okay.

as for Grim, I am not 100% sure if his toilet ailments are completely gone. For awhile I played him with no needs, but if it was resolved, the game fixed it on it's own and it was a bug only during that particular gameplay.

Also have you tried to get plantsim and alien to try for baby? For some reason I can't. (I wouldn't expect my mod to turn try for baby off, just have the baby come out half human? But that's not the case here apparently?)

@Andipoodle, I am assuming that you have the Parenthood Game Pack?  Since the Parenthood Game Pack is still new, we don't know all the ramifications that can result. 🤭  for 3 or so years we have been playing TS4 a certain way, and raising our children accordingly, but Parenthood GP really changes family life in TS4!  I love these new changes, but we don't know all the ins and outs of them yet, so it makes it hard to figure things out.  🤨  The phases that children and teens go through came with Parenthood.  In my test game that I did for you trying to get some siblings with a low relationship bar to age to teens, not only did they have a low relationship bar, but they also declared each other enemies.  They would also spontaneously fight (but I directed them to declare each other enemies), but they never have gotten the Ugh Family moodlet yet, and their status just says Enemies and Disliked, but no Childhood Enemies.  I also find the wording of the Childhood Enemies description odd since an "ally" is someone on your side, so an "ally sibling" should be a sibling that is close to the other sibling!?!? 🤒

I also wish we knew more about why Grim kept using the toilet!  I suppose you playing him with no needs circumvented the problem and he became unstuck from that behavior.  

As for the Alien and PlantSim having a baby, while PlantSims can have babies, they are 100% normal Sims, even if they were conceived while a parent was a PlantSim or if they were born while the mother was a PlantSim. ☹️ I do not know of any restrictions for PlantSims having babies with Aliens.  My guess is the result would be the same as if a 100% Alien had a baby with a 100% normal Sim.  The resulting baby would be half Alien, and half regular Sim, but may or may not exhibit their Alien DNA with all of the abilities that would entail. However, I would give it a try without your Mod just to see if there is something blocking it. 😉 I now need to also see if one of my Aliens has any problems having a baby with a PlantSim and if they have problems having a baby with a regular Sim (as a Control).  🤓

Hey.
I do have Parenthood. Adrian and Judas never became enemies.. which is what I found odd about it. I think they just had arguments and were in the disliked bar when Adrian aged to teen. So it wasn't something that was done on purpose. I always tried to make them get along but they wouldn't... I know there are cheats to remove certain 'relationship types' from characters (such as brother, sister, mother, father, grandparent, ect.) but not the ones I'm looking for.. the.. 'relationship types' that go beyond DNA. So 'ally' meaning they did not declare themselves enemies as they never were... Adrian just disliked Judas. I guess I shouldn't worry with that since Judas is moved out and its unlikely they will run into eachother again.. 

Grim is indeed still stuck with his needs. I have to cheat and 'make happy' in order to get him off the toilet.
As for his wife, she died by sauna and I wish I could change that. She's always getting water and leaving it all over the house.

I decided to make Alien x Plantsim baby  child in cas. When she grows up, i'll just turn her into a plantsim. fix'd.

I need to think of something to do. I'm getting bored.. Know of anything that keeps the sims super interesting?

Hello again!

Hmm that's odd that you tried to make them get along but they never did on their own. 🤨 Usually Sims will react based on their current interactions unless one or more of them have a trait that makes friendly interactions unlikely -- but that is not the case with Judas and Adrian since neither of them have those kind of triats! 😮  So that leaves me to guess that either of them or both were in a phase of some sort and the negative interactions stemmed from that! 

Thanks for the background info!  I now know that in trying to recreate your situation, I shouldn't have let them declare each other enemies!  I will try to redo this from an earlier save and see if I can get the Childhood Enemies from that ! 

On a good note, this lets us see how detailed the Parenhood GP really is!  I'm impressed! ❤️ Unless someone hates playing families, then I think this is a necessary pack to get for TS4! 🥳

Even thought Adrian & Judas don't live together anymore, this might come up in some other family that you play, so it is still a good idea to figure out how this situation happened! 

Grim does sound like there is some glitch going on, but I have only played with a few NPCs before, and never the Grim (at least not in TS4).  have you tried repairing your game through Origin? 🤔  That might help! 

So for your Alien Plantsim hybrid, you are going to make a half Alien/half regular Sim in CAS and then when she gets older trun her into a PlantSim?  Sounds like a good way to go about it.  I'd like to see pics when it happens!

If you are getting bored with TS4, then there are a couple of things you can do:

1) if you don't already have all the Stuff, Game, & Expansion Packs, you can get the ones you don't already have.

2) you can play the opposite way you normally play (if you normally play nice, you can play mean and vice versa; if you normally play families, you can play singles and vice versa; etc.)

3) since you play with cheats and Mods, you can try playing without those.  Likewise you can play with a new Mod you've never played with before (just keep in mind that any Mod can become outdated when there is an update to the game, even if you wouldn't think it would effect it!)

4) You can focus on trying to make a family and try all of the parenting styles to see what each results in. Try to get a family with kids to get all their character traits in the red and then try another family to get all their character traits in the green.  Go for as many traits that carry over into adulthood as you can. You might have to play with long life span for this!

5) if you haven't played with all of the Maxis pre-made Sims that come with the game and several packs, you can try playing with them

6) Recreate your favorite movie characters or TV characters and play their lives

7) recreate your own family or friends and try to replicate their houses as closely as you can (I still remember doing this when I first got married with my husband and my first apartment with TS1.  On the console version of TS 1 I recreated my childhood home so well, my husband recognized it!)

8) There are many different Legacies and Challenges you can play, including Genetics Challenges & Building Challenges.  

You might even come up with your own ideas!  😇

I will try your suggestions and I love your ideas. I will try a few of those out.
Thank you so much for continuing to help me on this.

I can't wait to see what kind of results you get.
I am going to disappear over the weekend so know that I didn't forget to come back! Just on vacation.

<3 <3 <3
Thank

I'm  still reworking trying to get siblings to be Childhood Enemies. My problem is they keep autonomously being nice to each other LOL😃  I'm trying to get them to fight just enough to have a negative relationship, but no physical fights or declaration of enemies, since you didn't do any of those items.

I'm also working on testing Alien Sims having children with regular Sims as well as Alien Sims having babies with PlantSims.  

Thsnks for updating me that you will be on vacation and won't reply; I appreciate it! ❤️ Have a great vacation! 🥳

@Andipoodle, I've been working on combining Alien Sims with Plant Sims to see the results.  I had suspected that it would be no different than an Alien and Human combo or a PlantSim and human combo.  This is because in my previous family with one Human Sim (male) being abducted, the result was a Alien Sim (whose disguise naturally defaulted to looking like her Human dad).  Also in a previous family during the PlantSim Challenge, I had a normal Sim become a plant Sim and then she got pregnant (with Human male Sim) while a PlantSim and had her baby while still a PlantSim, but the baby was a normal Human Sim.

So, due to your earlier question, I tried to combine an Alien and a PlantSim.  I had an Alien father and a Human mother  and I used the Testingcheat to make the mother a PlantSim.  I was unable to make the Alien father a plantSim, which makes me think it is impossible to be both.  This couple had already had one daughter who while Human still had daddy's blue Alien skin but mommy's eyes and hair.  But when mommy was a PlantSim, she and her Alien husband were able to have an Alien child (I think.  The baby is about to be a toddler).  

Pictures as follows:

1.) Mom

2.) Dad in disguise with first child (not alien but alien skin)

3.) Mom as PlantSim with 2nd child who I presume to be an Alien

More pics:

1.) 1st child non-alien but with Alien skin

2.) dad without disguise with mom and first child (school-aged)

Really late to the party but with this moodlet, I actually quite like it. I had a couple of vampires who grew up together though weren't blood family and they didn't get on. One of them died of sunlight, just like in your game. Before the sun incident, one of them would get this moodlet whenever that other sim was nearby. He's a family orientated sim and he never gets it for any other sim, just this one.

The other sim died of sunlight, as I said, and that moodlet disappeared. BUT even though the surviving sim is now about 150 days old, the moodlet comes back whenever the dead sim's ghost is lurking on the lot. It's amusing to me because it's a relic of that really unfriendly relationship they had growing up that even now my sim, after having 8 kids of his own and raising the other one's son, hasn't got over. It kind of makes him human - so I really like it 😉

I think it's a unique marker of an awkward relationship between sims that grow up together and I like that my sim has kept it. It's like if you have a family gathering and an annoying uncle comes along...

Guys, the Ugh, Family moodlet is being caused by a distressed family member and not the childhood enemies relationship, you get that relationship status if you both had the mode phase Mean Streak and did Mean things to each other and one of them aged up before the relationship was amended.  If one of the family members are still teenagers you may still have a change to change it for the good, but after they age to Young Adult it is stuck, but when the offending family member gets out of the teen phase the Ugh, Family moodlet should go away.  I don't know how a brother and sister got like that in my family but he has the temporary distant phase trait that makes saying anything to him useless.  There is hope though with seasons the water balloon fights well actually increase friendship.