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So we have more than 2 years with this bug, that we have the game completly unplayble, and no word from the sims team??????????? at least admiting the problem and that they are working on a fix???? this game is more than 2 months salary with all the packs... at least make it work... i quit playing since i get dizzy with 10 fps whenever i switch to build buy, or even more often in live mode, when the save loads with the lag already...
And also I can see that even the console players have it, so it's not related to our PC.
I have Rtx 3080 and I7, this game should be easily 60 fps. It doesn't have problems running it, but when this lag appears it just goes crazy to 10 fps. Makes you dizzy and cannot play a thing. i think this should be a top priority since it's making players having motion sickness with 10 fps, if you rotate the camera, you want to throw up.
All of these happened just after Get famous release, even James Turner had the same lag on his Let's play on Get famous. It is a very old lag, that is being ignored and unacceptable. Same as LGR Eco lifestyle videos had the same problems. so please stop telling us to change things on our ends, when even consoles players have the lag, it means that the game is broken and the only way to fix it's for the official team to work until they fix it.
If they cannot recreate the bug, it means they are not playing it as a normal player with origin in the background. Or they are just ignorant, and don't care, since it's a costly bug, it's difficult to find why it's happening, better save the cost and just ignore its existence. They said that the sims4 will be for many more years, i am very curious how in the world we will play it? if right now it's unplayble?
- 3 years ago
@Serraphiell EA truly does not care about its customers anymore, I mean the release of the Wedding pack should be ultimate evidence. The pack was nowhere near ready and the actions did not even work and that was for absolutely everyone so it means they didn’t bother play-testing the pack before release. They ignore the bugs and release more and more packs which continue to make their game more and more laggy but they just don’t give a *.
- puzzlezaddict3 years agoHero+
@Serraphiell I can't reproduce the issue either, and I do run Origin (and other programs) in the background. Given the moderate but not overwhelming number of posts about this issue, it's clear that not everyone is affected. Pair that with the fact that most affected players see the issue in new saves as well, and it's clear that this is at least in large part a system issue.
Some players in this thread saw improvements when closing or uninstalling Razer software or other helpful but not critical programs, if you're interested in troubleshooting further. Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you.
- 3 years ago
Hmmm, what about the consoles? how is their system problem?
Also I tried on 3 different PCs(2 windows 11, 1 windows 10) and 1 mac. all of them have exactly the same problem. it's impossible to be from the system only. The problem is in their source code that conflicts with the systems. I am a computer engineer myself (I can prove if needed). And I can see clearly, that the game is poorly optimized with the latest packs. The system will not have the game as a priority when the lag happens, and switch back to normal whenever player is pressing the UI Escape menu or something to re-prioritize the processing power. All of these because of the game being poorly optimized lately.
I do not own any Razer software, and all my devices are clean boot. So your "fixes" will do nothing. Pair that with console players, that cannot have any Razer software or any other conflicting software.
And also, I do not lag with any other game except sims4. I do own Rtx 3080, and i7, also rtx 3070 and i7 on others. and latest Mac model. It behaves exactly the same, on all devices.
People are not vocal enough, because they press the Escape button, to fix it, but this should not be a feature!!!!!!!!! For 2 months wages game.
Also, I did a little survey of myself. And asked game changers from YouTube and Twitch in comments. "Fantasia, Pixelade, James Turner, LGR…" and many others, all confirmed they have this lag, and have the temporary fix of Escape button. I can show proofs if needed.
Also it depends on the game style of each simmer. How they play. Maybe that’s one of the reasons some people don’t have the lag. Or many other variables. Still the sims team should prioritize this as first priority! Or it will end up just like sims 3 at the end of its life. Worst is that they said, sims 4 has many more years ahead, but it’s already broken.- puzzlezaddict3 years agoHero+
@Serraphiell Consoles have had performance issues for years that are clearly separate from the problems in the PC and Mac versions. As a computer engineer, you must know how different a console version of a game is to its Windows counterpart. If you look through the console forum, you'll see that those issues are much closer to universal and much more severe on last-generation consoles, which isn't surprising considering the improvements in hardware of the current generation. Players who know how the game runs say that the only real workaround on older consoles is to run the game with just a few packs.
That's not really the point though; the point is that when a problem happens on some but not all systems, and even the same setup (or the same saves) run better on one computer than another, it cannot by definition be purely a game problem and must have at least something to do with the various systems running the game. For your own issues, I don't know whether you have the same software running on all your computers, or there's something about your router or ISP that doesn't get along with Origin, or something else entirely.
But I do know that for all the people who report this issue, there are just as many who don't see it. Sure, some players are probably just working around it, but plenty of us have tried to reproduce the issue and can't no matter what we do. I've benchmarked Sims 4 at least half a dozen times at different patch levels and seen only mild framerate drops at worst, barely dropping below 100 fps. That's not to say the problem is only due to system issues, just that it's also not only the game itself.
As for Sims 4 not being optimized, I'm not going to argue with that.
I understand why you want developer attention, but it's not like the devs don't care, they're just working on a number of issues at the same time. I couldn't tell you whether anyone's working on this particular problem, but I do know the devs are tracking several performance issues, including the fps drops when entering Build/Buy. They're also tracking a very large pile of other issues; check out the bug forum and the periodic laundry lists if you want to see how much is on their plate.
For what it's worth, Sims 3 runs great on my computer, no performance issues whatsoever in three years.
- 3 years ago
I also followed the thread from the beginning, and many people @JeanVW and others thought they fixed it by doing the suggested things u mentioned, but after a while, the lag also came back. So none of those fixes were the reason, just maybe making it worst, but the core problem was never fixed in this thread. people always came back and told you the lag was back.
And why sims team developers are not doing their own survey directly and see what’s happening? @puzzlezaddict I do understand that you want to help people, but you can see that now, we really need an official sims 4 dev, to troubleshoot and finally admit and fix this problem. Is going on for far too much time, since the pack of Get Famous.
Also I did contact the EA troubleshoot team, and spent a few days to keep sending them reports and do whatever steps they wanted me to do, Like DxDiag and clean boot, no internet, re-install LAN driver, sound and many other fixes. After I wasted many many hours, they finally replied "We are aware of this issue and it is widespread across many platforms, please wait for an official patch".
Why did I have to go with all these troubleshooting when they already know what is happening? Waste of my time.My conversation was one and a half year ago!!!!! And we are still waiting for the patch?
Also they never admitted publicly for this lag, or told us they are working for a fix....