HelloI’d like to generate some fast donuts in order to take advantage of the Date Night Mystery Boxes, but haven’t donut farmed before.My current multiplier is 842.10% (excluding hidden multiplier)I have all of the SH Buildings plus one extra Deluxe Condo I also have all of the Beach Hideaways.I have 229,238,912 in-game cash.I have a day off on Wednesday and intend on a day of laziness so have plenty of tapping time available to me on that day. Land wise I have purchased all of the recently released land in Springfield and SH and its 80% unoccupied.My question is should I turn on the collider for a day and burn through all of the cash buying bloodmobiles and rat trap trucks or is there an advantage I am missing in turning the collider on for say a week and buying KEM’s. I can probably log in 3 times a day to clear the KEM’s.I’m guessing I’ll generate more donuts overall with the KEM method but is the difference so great that it justifies the extra time and donut delay?Many Thanks in advance for any advice.Joanne

My collider is on 24/7 and has been since it came into the game. I farm bloodmobiles, collect the donuts and then sell them back. I am currently near 3000%.

If you plan to do this in one day my advise would be go rat trap trucks.Buy 10 days on the collider, with your multiplier just collecting buildings/sending on tasks should make over one donut chance per day so it'll pay for itself to keep the collider on full time.Find a nice clear area and then buy a load of rat trap trucks, I generally buy a rectangle of 11X4 of them as I find this is how many I can sell in one go.Collect the donuts generated, don't bother going for more even if you only get one, at your multiplier its more cost effective to buy more trucks.Sell the trucks.Lather, rinse and repeat for silky smooth hair and a nice haul of donuts.

With that much cash, turn on the collider and buy some rat traps. Keep building until you have what you want. KEM farming would be slower and you have plenty of cash, so no worries.

great thanks for the quick replies, sounds like I should have had the collider on permanently a while ago. Should've paid more attention in maths. . . :o

Yeah, with that multiplier you probably would always come out ahead with the multiplier even without doing donut farming. I have a much smaller multiplier (around 500%), and I keep it on at all times. I usually get one "level up" per day without it, so with it it's five times as much. In a couple of days I've already paid off the 25 donuts investment, the rest is all profit.

Donut Farming Newbie, Advice please

alapalme
8 years ago
I did create an online calculator for myself, in trying to find what strategy I should be using to optimize cash per donut when clearing KEMs.

I know someone posted the math a long time ago, telling you at one point it's not worth opening the 2nd or 3rd donut box (based on your multiplier) but the sim makes it easier.

When I started, the SIM told me to open all three boxes; with my current multiplier (733+SH) the SIM tells me to stop at 2 OR 3 donuts (but never 1)-- I get a better payout this way. I enter my multiplier everytime it changes significantly and one day the sim will tell me to just take the first box each time!

You can try it here:
http://lwshost.com/tsto/simkem.pl
You can change all the variables so if you want to try with bloodmobiles instead of KEM's etc you can just put the correct cost in there.

Let me know what I can do to add / improve...!
girl22721
8 years ago
That's interesting for comparing the different strategies against each other, although it uses a fixed cost for the KEMs so the $ per donut will be significantly higher than selling down and buying from $220 each round.

What rationale are you using to differentiate XP gained from placing KEMs and building/task income XP so that it (sometimes) recommends two strategies rather than just one?
alapalme
8 years ago
"girl22721;1561323" wrote:
That's interesting for comparing the different strategies against each other, although it uses a fixed cost for the KEMs so the $ per donut will be significantly higher than selling down and buying from $220 each round.

What rationale are you using to differentiate XP gained from placing KEMs and building/task income XP so that it (sometimes) recommends two strategies rather than just one?

Yeah I'm considering putting in the variable costs for the KEM but then I also have to ask for the quantity built per harvest. I'll see what I can do. In my case I build close to 70 per batch so the first 24 don't make a big big difference--but I can see where, for a newer user, that might be a difference.

Re: Rationale:
In my case, it still costs $109 K to build enough KEM's to get a single donut bonus popup. So while /not/ harvesting and just clearing tasks and building income, the "100k for 3 donuts" is still a better investment than the "2 or 3 donuts" strategy that I'm using for KEM harvesting.

Once the cost for a round of KEM triggering the bonus boxes is lower than 100k then it's not as profitable to open the three boxes, and the "2 or 3 donuts" strategy comes to play.
girl22721
8 years ago
Thanks for the reply and explanation. I see what you're saying although I'm not sure I'd support that rationale, as I'm more inclined to consider that once the bonuts game has been triggered, I'm no longer concerned with the cost of triggering it and will choose the strategy for playing it based only on the potential costs of moving forwards from that point.
alapalme
8 years ago
"girl22721;1561337" wrote:
Thanks for the reply and explanation. I see what you're saying although I'm not sure I'd support that rationale, as I'm more inclined to consider that once the bonuts game has been triggered, I'm no longer concerned with the cost of triggering it and will choose the strategy for playing it based only on the potential costs of moving forwards from that point.

Yeah to be honest I was struggling with that too. You'll notice it only suggests the second strategy (open 3 when not harvesting) when the cost is above 100k. I haven't really thought out how that should work.
But on the 100k note I'm convinced for the following:
If it costs you more than 100k in KEMs to get a single bonus box:
- you spend over 100k in KEM and get 1, 2 or 3 donuts
- OR you get a bonus box naturally while clearing tasks, and for 100k you are garanteed 3 donuts.

That's why I separate the two in the strategy list. When it costs more than 100k for a bonus from the KEM's, it's profitable to spend that 100k on non-KEM bonus boxes.

I know it's not clear-cut when you consider that you can't separate XP collected from KEM's left over in your bar-- but at my multiplier I tend to get 1 bonus while clearing each 4 hours -- prior to doing the KEM harvest. So... -- for me, it works. but it's a minor difference in strategy in any case.
1sflowers330
8 years ago
If you're farming bonus boxes, you'll end up opening lots. On average you'll pay $50k for every bonus box opened. Unless you have a multiplier which would get you another bonus from the 50k (3500%ish) you should always pay to 3.
alapalme
8 years ago
"sflowers330;1561507" wrote:
If you're farming bonus boxes, you'll end up opening lots. On average you'll pay $50k for every bonus box opened. Unless you have a multiplier which would get you another bonus from the 50k (3500%ish) you should always pay to 3.

This is incorrect. That was the point on building the simulator I linked earlier. I'm at 733℅ + SH and with the collider I need to spend 109k to get another bonus. It's still more cost effective for me to stop at 2 donuts, and soon enough to stop at the first box.

Try the simulator to see. Someone did the math in another post and came to the same conclusion

The reason is this:
My 109k has a 1/3 chance of giving 3, 2 or 1 donuts
That's an average of 2 donuts for 55k each. So on the front it seems like the 50k for the second and third box is a good deal. The problem is if you open the first box and it's 2 donuts, the next box might be 1, costing you 100k just to go from 2 to 3 donuts.

At my multiplier each strategy is pretty close but at about 800℅ + sh it's always more profitable to stop at 2 donuts

I didn't think so either until I wrote the simulator
Jonalinn
New Spectator
8 years ago
I work daily on increasing my bonus percentage, but I'm more casual about it (if you will). When I receive 3 boxes to open, I always play until I receive 3 donuts.
ruiqneiva106
8 years ago
For me if I get 2 donuts I'll stop there, but if I get 1 one, I'll always go for 3.
Might not be the most cost-efficient way, but my life is not only this game.
Jonalinn
New Spectator
8 years ago
"ruiqneiva106;1561609" wrote:
For me if I get 2 donuts I'll stop there, but if I get 1 one, I'll always go for 3.
Might not be the most cost-efficient way, but my life is not only this game.

For me, at this stage of the game, cost efficiency is a non-issue as well. I currently have over $585M so spending in-game currency is not a concern.