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Re: AI balance issues in Career mode

Hi Everyone,

I've had a flick through some of the EA Forums for WRC and I've not yet seen anyone bring this topic up. 

I am by no means the quickest driver out there on this game, but I'm finding it disappointing how easy the game is to win stages and events on 100 AI difficulty. For me, I think 100 should be close to unbeatable, requiring clean stages constantly, like it is in real life WRC. 

I love this game so much, but there is no challenge aspect with it being so easy to win events, while having crashes occasionally and spins. 

An example, I recently started a custom JWRC championship, first event is Sweden and generally I struggle on the snowy events, I had a massive roll on the first stage, lost maybe 15s, but I was just 1s behind the leader on that stage. Clean stages I was winning by 15-20s easily without really having to push hard or take risks. This was on 100 AI difficulty. It just feels so easy and not a challenge! 

I'd love to know if anyone else agrees with this point.

Cheers, 

Ewan! 

10 Replies

  • Unbreukable's avatar
    Unbreukable
    Rising Vanguard
    2 years ago

    Does the AI 'stage leader' on the progress bar actually mimic the stage being driven (with fast and slower parts of the stage) or is it just a count down timer to the finish stage time of the leader? On multiple stages with a lot of twists and turns in sector 1 I have found myself being left behind by AI who seem to progress as if for them the sector is just a straight only to "easily" catch back up at moments where the stage actually becomes a bit faster.

  • loopgoot79's avatar
    loopgoot79
    New Scout
    2 years ago

    is there any cheat or other hack that can adjust the AI difficulty while we wait for a real fix from the devs ? 

  • ScarDuck14's avatar
    ScarDuck14
    Legend
    2 years ago

    Have only now started to focus on Ai difficulty as up to now as a Rally noob  I’ve been playing with settings and setups and changing my hardwired smooth and precise F1 muscle memory to something very different

    Any I’m wondering as Codemasters added adaptive Ai to F1 game last year.  And although it’s only ment to be active on beginner and amateur level.  This year especially It feels constantly present to frustrate and enrage me.  As soon as you pull out a few seconds lead doesn’t matter what team and how op my car is compared to them. Given a few laps they will be all over me.  

    But more relevant is.  Apparently The adaptive Ai was added to help a noob or casual amateur player as the Ai would slow down or speed up depending on player. To the point if player spun off track(Which in this game is inevitable as I’ve even seen many many YouTube pros struggle.  Especially my fellow F1 sweats) the Ai slows right down and waits for player to catch them back up.  Which from my understanding of what you guys  are saying.  WRC Ai is acting in a similar manner.  Regardless of the difficulty setting:     As much as I don’t like anything to do with Ai cheats and scripts.  As F1 and Rally games are solely focused on a specific race series.    To sell the numbers they need to reach their margins. Means making sure even the very worst players can feel like a rally god:    If the game does have a poorly implemented adaptive Ai. It’ll mean it they decide to fix  it properly. changing it will take time.  Every car controlled by a Ai will need to be tested on every stage at every difficulty over and over.  Someone said it’ll take 5 minutes?  5 months would be more accurate.   Project Cars 2 released and from the start Ai was poor. So the developers announced soon after launch they have put a team together to make improvements to Ai.  Nine months later the game got a update with a slightly better Ai.  Or they can opt for adding scripts that will force Ai results on us.   Which will be far worse Than it  currently is. F1 Ai this year is a disaster 


    as ai was really easy this year on higher levels a patch came out and now the ai will keep you in your place.  Doesn’t matter if you have a perfect race. If your car is ranked 5th the rankings the game will do it’s best to make sure you finish 9th or 10th 

    If you consider SophyAi now by far the best racing Ai.  Ten years I think in development by polyphony and Sony Ai with Sony giving massive resource support to it including full access to Sony super computers.  And still it’s no where near fully being fully implemented into GT7 possibly won’t be until next gen 

  • EA_Groguet's avatar
    EA_Groguet
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager
    2 years ago

    Hey there,

    While the team is currently investigating and working on fixes where possible, we need additional information to help fully diagnose the issue and develop a definitive fix for a future patch. That's why I have created this thread to collect as much data as possible.

    Inconsistent AI Times

    Thank you very much for your help.

  • Skylinegtr34rb26's avatar
    Skylinegtr34rb26
    Seasoned Rookie
    2 years ago

    "Investigating"...after 2 month..."fix where possible"...

    Ok this would say codies its not secure of can fix the bug...really good! After 2 monrh, now, the comnunity NEED a eta for this benedict patch, mid december what does mean? Day...

  • Jvitma's avatar
    Jvitma
    2 years ago

    If they are just now asking the community for help in reproducing the bug, it doesn't look good for the December patch ☹️

  • Skylinegtr34rb26's avatar
    Skylinegtr34rb26
    Seasoned Rookie
    2 years ago
    @Jvitma think how bad they are...and they tell me that they didn't know about these bugs before the release? they simply wanted to make money and released it buggy, we pay for it

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