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Alex_83_SE's avatar
12 months ago

The flawed AI

Product: EA SPORTS™ WRC
Platform:Steam-PC
Summarize your bug AI being inconsistent and not using any tyre strategy at all
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Make and play "quick play" championshop
What happens when the bug occurs? --
What do you expect to see? AI using tyres accordingly to stage lengths of the loop

I prefer to play alone against AI times. Clubs and time trial are of zero interest to me personally.

I learned to work around the half-baked career by instead creating quick play championships, normally running 12 stages/location and was having fun until i noticed some patterns that totally deters me from even try to enjoy this game at the moment.

#1 - AI is very inconsistent (Bonus complaint)

Yes, its hard to get AI times to be perfect for every player, taking into account different driving styles and preferred locations. But they are super slow in some places (CER comes to mind). And can perform superhuman times at other locations (1 stage in Kenya).

#2 - AI use no tyre strategy what so ever, inconsistent tyre wear

On any given loop of stages, you will have AI randomly select between the available compounds. Regardless of the length of the stages until next service. Queue up 4x 23km on CER. And some AI will choose the soft compund, totally demolishing them halfway thru the second stage and then be super slow, and then that very same AI will choose the hard tyre on the next loop, that might be just a mere 23 km total over 4 stages. There is no code that does any simple math to check the upcoming stage lengths per loop and then choose tyre accordingly. The AI tyre wear is also all over the place, sometimes my tires are dead way before the AI, and sometimes it's the other way around.

#3 - It seems the AI cannot count tires

This might be a one off, or a bug in the tyre display in "running order". But I have had AI using more tyres than available, its like they get a fresh set at each service (randomly weighted 50/50 soft/hard?)

I tried this by running shakedown, and seeing the AI tyres being yellow after shakedown. Then after shakedown, I check the "running order" and there I see all green tyres for everyone. Meaning a tyre change is done after shakedown. That meant everyone was a tyre short, and had to use one tyre for 2 loops. But then at the last service, again, looking at "running order" the tyres were all green again. Now this can just be a bug with the display in "running order". But overall, I feel that the whole tyre system in regards to the AI is broken. And now that I have noticed this, I have a hard time enjoying this game, because this keeps annoying me.

4 Replies

  • i've noticed this too. I have my difficulty set at 90% and usually beat the ai by a fairly decent margin. once i got any higher than 90, it becomes impossible to beat them and they beat me by like 30 seconds or more. it makes zero sense. some stages i can still win, others i don't have a snowballs chance...

  • Exactly.



    And it's not finished yet:



    If I set 14 stage per rally,there are no big problems to conclude the rally, because you only have to manage well the tyres,and change it after 5 or 6 stage(depending of km.)



    This because the wearing is not so much, especially on 4wd.

    And the grip is so kuch whit new tyre,so when you have less grip is much fun.



    But the problem is that it is unreal to can't change the tyres on 2 or 3 service in a row.So it is more beautiful,real and fun to have more tyres to change.



    There are another problem:

    If like me,you play a single custom rally,whit 26 special stage,the IA opponent drivers,CHANGE THE TYRES ON EACH SERVICE!



    So they after 3 service have anymore tyres to change and I often win the rally by 1 or more minutes because they have no more tyres.



    And I also win All the POWER STAGE in this way too.



    This is only for gravel events, because in tarmac rally they give 4 or more wet tyres,but if the events are on summer, are too bad because it doesn't rain.



    I often put the rain tyre for 2 dry stages,if they are not so long,but my AI OPPONENT NOT,so I can win easily,and it is boring.



    PLEASE CODEMASTERS FIX IT
  • @Bqbrally Ah, the more stages, the worse it becomes! Its like they expected ppl to only play TT and 4 stage baby rallies. This will be the deciding thing if i purchase the expansion, or just give up and go for DR2 when i crave some rally action. (I count on not buying btw..)
  • Bqbrally's avatar
    Bqbrally
    11 months ago

    The only way now to run a fun rally whit 18+ stage is

    -to avoid the "summer season" on all the 6 TARMAC events(if rain,you have tyres enough)

    -to set maximum 3 service area on each gravel\snow rally,but after it will be difficult to manage the broken parts.