the AI’s pace in wet conditions on the wet tyres is far too quick and it’s impossible to keep up with them. Even changing to inters and doing faster lap times the AI are still going quicker on worn wet tyres. It’s almost like they have unlimited traction
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AI in wet conditions are far too fast
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- SantorotheRhino6 months agoSeasoned Newcomer
Goes hand in hand with the absence of Ai struggles in wet or changing conditions and needs to be patched as soon as possible.
- Mileto936 months agoSeasoned Novice
Agree AI is very fast in rain... they dont have tyre problems ... .. when i have a rain race in career mode now i low the difficulty a bit.. its not ideal... and when have mixed conditios is GG
- novagoal116 months agoRising Vanguard
I also have to comment on the topic again and may have useful and helpful information
First of all: Play on AI level 102 completely without assistance, only with automatic shifting, i.e. TC off. I drive with the Thrustmaster T598.
In dry conditions, depending on the track, I drive a mediocre car for victory or at least the podium. In the rain, depending on the track, I lose between 1-3 seconds to the AI in the race. The gap isn't quite as big on intermediates, and sometimes even more in heavy rain. In my opinion, the problem lies in the grip of the AI. As soon as it rains, I set the differential to at least 80, so you have more grip. However, the problem is that I can only adjust one differential value during the race when making changes. Another problem is the tyre pressure. The rear tyres quickly lose grip in the rain, especially with Inters, despite the extreme tyre pressure, and get hot differently depending on the track. This problem simply doesn't seem to exist with the AI. As soon as there is a drying line, you can keep up with the AI more. However, what is simply highly unrealistic here is that the AI sometimes drives full wet for ages in inter conditions even though they are significantly faster. Here you have a good chance of catching up with the AI. What's worse, however, is that when the track dries out, the AI sometimes drives the inters almost until they are completely dry and get even faster and faster.
The AI changes tyres far too late and always seems to have a perfect setup for the rain, which is of course unrealistic. You can't drive the inters to the end like the AI because they heat up completely and all grip is lost. In reality, the drivers sometimes use the wet lanes to cool down the tyres, which unfortunately doesn't help at all here, which is of course nonsense. The tyres should already cool down when I drive next to the racing line, which is significantly drier. So unfortunately a lot of things don't fit together in rainy conditions. I would estimate that the AI is set up about 20-25 too well compared to dry conditions. The game is great, but in my opinion that's the biggest problem that you simply can't push aside, otherwise you'll lose your fans again like in F124 for various reasons. Please, I repeat myself, everything else is unimportant this problem must be priority number 1 otherwise you have not understood it.
- IanM2826 months agoSeasoned Aceundefined
- nowthenfella6 months agoNew Rookie
EA_Groguet It’s definitely traction. I am playing on 75% AI, medium traction control with ERS on auto and the AI are getting the power down earlier than I can. Here’s a clip from Suzuka and you can see it clearest out of the second spoon corner and onto the main straight. I think the pace seems OK other than that. Tried the same race in the dry and that was fine for traction.
- DominusDeus1236 months agoNew Spectator
Agreed. This needs to be fixed.
- AdamThorne19926 months agoNew Rookie
I agree with everything here. This feels exactly like last year, when the issue around AI not overtaking and sitting in DRS trains was raised. It was being “investigated” and then in September it was decided that they would solve it for future F1 titles. That isn’t good enough for the core fan base who waited months for no improvement and paid full price at launch.
It’s beginning to feel like we are being slow-walked to the same conclusion; by saying that we are looking into it as so as many people have raised it as a problem, but not fully committing to it buy adding it to the Raised Issues forum.Can already sense by the terminology they have used so far on the matter that they will inevitably say “we’ll work on it for future F1 titles”. Which would be a shame for a company previously called Codemasters, yet unable to resolve an issue like this.
- merli_176 months agoNew Scout
CM_TGK
EA_Groguet
I'm honestly really angry at this point.
My comment probably won’t change anything, but I just need to get it off my chest.
All of us here have – once again – spent a lot of money on this game. I’ve already mentioned that I do see it as a significant improvement over last year’s title, BUT this issue completely ruins the experience for many players.
We’re talking about Career Mode becoming essentially unplayable!! Many races have changing weather conditions, and as has been mentioned repeatedly, they are a disaster – the AI is either way too fast in wet conditions or far too slow in dry ones. The balance is completely off.We’re not expecting miracles, and yes, adjusting AI behavior is risky.
But what really frustrates me is this:- You barely give any feedback here in the chat, and when you do, it’s completely meaningless
- This issue still hasn’t (we're talking weeks now!) appeared in the “Community Raised Issues” section
It honestly feels like you’re not taking this seriously at all. For players like me who buy the game specifically to play Career Mode, this is catastrophic, and once again, it feels like a complete waste of money. Please, at the very least, give us some clear answers:
- What’s the current status?
- What’s the timeline for a fix?
- Is it technically possible to disable rain in Career Mode? If yes, why hasn’t it been done already – especially since so many people have been asking for it?
… and if you’re not planning to fix it, then just be honest about it. That way, I don’t have to keep checking in here every few days to see if there’s any progress – and I’ll know to avoid EA titles in the future.
Thanks.
- AEF2517 months agoSeasoned Ace
Marty_Kar, yes I have that experience plus 2017 was too easy until a patch made it too hard and 2021 they were balanced before a patch wrecked it.
EA and CM have an awful track record (pardon the pun) when it comes to wet weather AI issues. AND so I keep asking, how hard is it to give us the option to disable rain if we want to when racing off-line? How does that hurt anyone else?
- Marty_KAR7 months agoNew Adventurer
Does anyone share my wet racing experience with the recent F1 Titles?
F1-2022/23: AI far too fast in the wet. The wet track doesn't appear to slow them down; however, I struggled to keep my car on the track. Career Racing experience ruined 👎
F1-2024: AI racing in the wet fixed. I had no issues or concerns racing the AI in wet. Thank you, EA Sports; great job 👍 😁
F1-2025: Wait! WHAT? ...We're back to F1-2022/23 with the AI unbelievably fast in the wet AGAIN? 👎 😬 How can this be?
NOTES:
I race Driver Career, with full Practice, Qualifying, and Race Length, using a Wheel, in Cockpit View, with no assists, and AI Difficulty set to 75%.
In dry conditions I enjoy F1-25 (Driver Career) very much 👍👍