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Lego9Fan's avatar
5 days ago
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Jyn cannot be Instantly Defeated

It seems that if you have a team that has Admiral Raddus and Jyn Erso on it, Jyn cannot be instantly defeated. This is because Jyn gains "uniqueabilty_admiralraddus01_jyn_cannot_be_defeated" as a health limit. Instant defeats, such as the one that The Mandalorian gains, do not dispel this, but they do dispel others such as "leaderability_quigonjinn_no_defeat_effect_jedi", which is what Qui-Gon uses to keep his Jedi alive.

The main reason I make this report is that it is inconsistent. Raddus’s ability says

 While Admiral Raddus is active, Jyn Erso can't be defeated.

and Qui-Gon says

At the start of battle if there are no Galactic Legends and all allies are Jedi: All other allies…can't be defeated while Qui-Gon Jinn is active.

Having a consistent definition for "can’t be defeated" is what I ask. 

Edit: I didn’t do my homework very well, apparently Dark Side Rey and kind of CT-5555 Fives have the same issues

5 Comments

  • Mandalorians can ignore the Qui-Gon lead omi? 

    I did not know that.

    You can look at the coding for these abilities.  I haven't done it myself, but Scrybe does it a lot in his videos.

  • Lego9Fan's avatar
    Lego9Fan
    5 days ago

    It’s not just The Mandalorian, it’s every instant defeat. They have a generic instant defeat that does it. And it’s actually most can’t be defeated effects. If you go to 

    https://swgoh.gg/units/THEMANDALORIAN/ability/grantedability_themandalorian_disintegrate/1/

    you can see that there is a long list of things like droid_1up_handler, magnaguard_health_limit, and many others. Those are all health limits that are supposed to prevent a unit from being defeated. And just because a unit isn’t on that list doesn’t mean that they are immune to instant defeats, because there are units like Paz, who uses magnaguard_health_limit 

  • crzydroid's avatar
    crzydroid
    Hero (Retired)
    5 days ago

    It's more like Qui-Gon has a wording bug in that it's not functioning as described. I'd think that Jyn is WAI.

  • 0h19qe6x8ogb's avatar
    0h19qe6x8ogb
    Seasoned Novice
    4 days ago

    Jyn USED to be able to be instantly defeated when Admiral Raddus first came out and it was then changed in some later update to what we have now. I think they generally just need to do a sweep of all the 'cannot be defeated/cannot drop below 1% health' type abilities and fix the wording for some of them. Jyn's is a true "cannot be defeated" and I think theres at least one other one that works like hers. The rest of them basically "cannot be killed via damage" and should probably just be worded as cannot be reduced below 1 health or something.

  • Lego9Fan's avatar
    Lego9Fan
    4 days ago

    Yea that’s exactly what I want. I’m not necessarily saying that Jyn is bugged, or anyone else. I would just like it if they have a consistent meaning 

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