[CL] Ghosts spawning as buskers don't use busking station

So I had been playing in the Spice Distict for a long time and noticed Bernard kept spawning and not moving fairly frequently, which was odd. But I did not know what was going on beyond that, for a long time. But I just figured it out, after seeing a couple other ghosts in other districts. The game has assigned a few ghosts, including him, to be buskers. Most are randomly generated, and i could just like, release them to the netherworld resolve this issue if i want, but can't release Bernard, obviously. (I mean i guess i technically could, but it would just create a new one. but he is friends with several of my sims so i really would not want to) I personally am fine with ghost buskers, I'd like to see ghosts, especially if you have Life and Death, around more often, and be able to invite them places without cheats. the problem is that they are not moving. They always just spawn in at the entry point and then won't move on their own to the busking station like the other buskers do. If you chat with them and then move them near the station by doing 'chat here' and then cancelling the conversation after they get there, they will then proceed to use the busking station and play an instrument, call for tips etc as normal.

I thought it was adorable to see Bernard show up in San Myshuno to play guitar, and in my case, it's not lore breaking since he plays piano as a small business employee in the same district. the others are not small business employees though, so it's not that. But it may be that them having spawned in the zone previously for another reason, say you made a Halloween holiday, like i did, or a lot with the spooky trait, or they showed up for Ghost Night at a bar, opened them up to be assigned as a busker there? Because they do seem to be linked to a specific district. But not necessarily the district they live, MCCC says a new one i just found is homeless in Oasis Springs, not San Myshuno.

But yeah I hope ghost buskers don't go away, i just want them to work properly. I'd love to see them as performers in lounges too, why not? I have a ghost DJ in my game and I love him, (tho he needed a makeover to look more DJ-y, but that's just an issue with the random townies in general sometimes) and he works perfectly fine, just like any other DJ, (it may help that DJs tend to already be in the DJ booth when you load into the lot) he even seems to have even been promoted to headliner recently. It would be fun to see Felix come to do standup. Even if they are a temporary freeroaming ghost, come do a final tour before you fade away to the netherworld, why not? So I hope the ghosts being assigned to be buskers is not the bug, just.... fix them moving to the station without help so they will actually play their instrument on their own.

the most recent one i just found now, my third ghost busker, and what prompted me to finally make this thread. Had Nina introduce herselfthen chat near the busking stationHe followed without any problemand began playingHe is listed as homeless in Oasis SpringsOne that spawned in front of the gym. she stood there for a long time, though the busker there left almost immediately after she spawned inuntil i nudged her closer to the busking station by chattingone of the many times I'd seen Bernard just.... standing there. he will stay there for hours before leaving.Bernard standing in the entrance of the Spice District after i realized the ghosts were buskersinviting him to chat here even though it isn't even particularly close to the busking station was enough...For him to get up, get the little busking thought bubble....and begin playingMy ghost DJ doing his thing properly (tho pre-makeover) for contrast. Please don't remove this, I love having him as a DJ.

I do have mods, but am willing to test without them if needed.

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6 Comments

crinrict
Hero+
3 days ago
Please only report issues in the bug forum if you did already test without mods.

Please follow these steps to test your game on vanilla game with no mods/cc

Create a backup of your save game

Move your mods folder to the desktop

Delete the following files from your user folder.

localthumbcache

Any lastException Files

Any LastCrash files.

Test on the backup of your save as you will loose all cc on the save and see if the same error occurs, then report back.
crinrict
Hero+
3 days ago
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o-RayeGunn-o
Rising Scout
3 days ago
Sorry about that, i was in the middle of something and couldn't test without mods until now. I just tested again without mods, (the fashion disasters, oh no....) and took a tour around San Myshuno, looking for the ghost buskers (I also have a few living ones in my save, dice roll which one spawns) while i haven't seen the other two yet, Bernard was still a busker, and in a first, he actually spawned inside the busking station at the gym! but when i went back home to the spice market, the same thing happened, he spawned at the entry, stood around, did pushups, etc, and i had to bring him to the busking station, at which point he would use it. I made a save of him waiting at the entrance if you are interested.
I'll be damned, he actually played there by himself for once! but the one at the gym is very close to the spawn point to be fairBack home at the spice market, Bernard was waiting around doing pushups and whatnot, but not buskingSame as before, start chatting, then 'chat here' near the busking stationcancel the conversation, and he begins to play, but not before he's brought close to itAnd again in the Fashion district.same procedure as before, go talk to him, 'chat here' near the busking station, cancel conversation, he begins playing
Also, because we are dealing with a special NPC here, I popped over to the estate after this to make sure he was still filling his role there, and hadn't been cloned, and he and Mimsy were both fine, and both the originals.
crinrict
Hero+
3 days ago
Would be interesting to know if it happens in a new save game too but I guess that would take a while to see ghosts around.

I'm going to put this on review for now. If you find more info, let me know (make sure to tag me)
crinrict
Hero+
3 days ago
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o-RayeGunn-o
Rising Scout
2 days ago
Yeah, it would he hard to test on a new save. There are only a few pre-made ghosts, and only then if you have some additional packs, and then, only Bernard and Mimsy have a high music skill of those, that I am aware of, and it is not guaranteed the game will go 'you'll do' to them when trying to assign a busker. Also, the pre-made ghosts are created to not fade away, but any sims that die will eventually fade, unless you have them in a played household (which i think eliminates them from the pool of potentials, at least i have not seen my played sims busk even if they have the skills) or use something like MCCC to prevent that, or religiously strengthen their bond. So even if they do get assigned, it won't last long. You have to wait for some to be created AS ghosts to be townies for some of the Ravenwood stuff, the game creates some Afterlife Anonymous attendees and Club Eternity patrons if you lack enough ghosts to properly populate them, which is how the other two came to be. So basically you also need Get Together and/or Life and Death to have ghosts that won't fade, and have the right skills.
And yeah i get that it's not breaking the game, just... weird and disappointing when you realize you are missing out on ghost performers. But this does explain something that i found odd. I saw a list of the requirements for the various game roles, and most explicitly prevented ghosts from filling them, with the exception of DJ and performer. I had seen a ghost DJ but never a performer, and now I know why; they are being created, they are just unable to do their job. The DJs working right may be related to the fact that nightclubs allow ghosts to spawn as like, patrons, unlike most other venues. It may even be they are being created for lounges too, but are not moving into place because they are technically not allowed to spawn there. (unless you assign the spooky trait to the lot. which i tried to see if i could get Johnny to spawn as an entertainer after he died, but no luck. but may also be because he is a played household) But it still a bug, and i would like to see Bernard busk properly, it would be cute.