[FR] LE: object has no attribute 'lot_template_id'

here is the lastException

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Hey there Zashab_4​ 

Are you still seeing error code 102:591668bd:1cd73dd6 in your game now? If so, please let me know which household specifically you're seeing this with. Thank you! 

i will upload a picture of the error code again -  102:591668bd:9950c809.

I am getting this error code on the game when I try to load the family I want to play – it’s been months since I played my game..... (look back at my previous post regarding this error code). I don't understand. Every time they release a new game fix, my game still doesn't work; it’s very unfair, as I have paid a lot of money for this game and all the other past Sims games since The Sims 1 was released in 2000. 
You see people on YouTube playing their game, and it works fine. I don't understand how their game works, and mine doesn't- I have no CCS or mods in my game.  If the Sims 4 team needs any help, I am more than happy to assist them in getting this game back up and running. 

Could you please provide the following information

• Please also provide any LastException in your documents folder. Upload them to either google or oneDrive and post the link here.
• What platform are you playing on ?
• Do you have any Sims in that household in an active career ?

Hi Crinrict,

here is the  LastException documents (all three of them) below is the link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16kn0tj3nFiGpFd3kGGxoiT-VePXOPa4T?usp=drive_link

I am playing on my MAC - Taheo

I can't remember for that household what active career they were in cause its been that too long since i have played that household. I have not played the sims since i got the first error message from months now - you will see all my post i have been posting about these error message.... 

Hi Zashab_4​ 

So it's still the same error as this ? 

[FR] LE: object has no attribute &#39;lot_template_id&#39; | EA Forums - 12186125 

You don't need to make a new thread if there's already a known issue for it. Did you provide the info you were asked ?

Going to merge this

I provided the link in my last post with the info you wanted 

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16kn0tj3nFiGpFd3kGGxoiT-VePXOPa4T?usp=drive_link

I have re added the link for you its the same error code from 2 months ago, all the error codes do look different to me as they are too long that why i took photos of the error codes i got.

Did you see this post: [FR] LE: object has no attribute &#39;lot_template_id&#39; | EA Forums - 12186125 ?

The link is still private. I can't view it.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16kn0tj3nFiGpFd3kGGxoiT-VePXOPa4T?usp=drive_link

the link now is public 

Yeah, that looks like the same one as the old.