Legacy Family Trees: Tree collapses/Overlaps/ Wrong connections (1.121.372)

I don't have the new expansion.  I have the issue of not being able navigate the tree UI.  If you try to move up the tree, it snaps back to the center of the tree.  If you try to zoom out, everything shifts to the left.  If you zoom back in, the tree is off the screen and if you try to move the tree into the center - you guessed it, it snaps back to empty screen.  Once it does this, if you manage to actually wrangle the tree back to the center focus, the same behavior of centering on the tree happens again.  This isn't past behavior, it isn't desirable behavior, it isn't useful behavior, so let's add a broken UI to big ol' complaint list.  It was like this before the "fix" on the 19th.  I should not have to click individual sims to see the top or bottom of the tree.  Tracing a single family member to the beginning of a neighborhood save is a bit long, ya know?  I know this isn't helpful or constructive, but at this point, these bugs are beginning to seem malicious.

Oh I quite agree! The fact this is the third time this specific thread has been created is just outrageous.

I hope comments like ours can potentially link issues that have some correlation might actually start the chain reaction of finding the problem. The CAS link to the family tree and vice versa needs to looked at the very least, just looking at the surface UI is not going to solve anything as relationships are being overwritten without the player's input. 

I will not be doing the secret child thing until it's fixed... the same thing happened to me... my sim secret child was revealed then he became the brother of affair's husband and married to the niece and having children with her.

I think i fixed it... I deleted my sim and remake him and set the family tree the way it should have been... he had a affair with one sim that had a child and was married to another sims having kids. 

the tree showed him married to his niece and the kids been his and his grandniece and grandnephew... and somehow, he was brother to the sims he had affair with husband when... I made him alone. 

After yesterday update I have still family trees overlapping and also I had a secret child and when the secret was revealed the step-father of the baby became the uncle 🤷🏻‍♂️

Makes me feel like the game can only deal with only one unknown parent at once, which is why siblings without parents and grandparent and grandchild without a parent in between are possible, and hence my unfixed issue as well. CAS cousins, piblings & niblings not treated as family/can romance in some cases, coz cousins created directly from cas means 3 unknown parents, while piblings and niblings mean 2 unknown parents

I think my issue is also connected to what you're talking about. CAS cousins, piblings & niblings not treated as family/can romance in some cases. So basically, cousins, and piblings and niblings created directly in CAS won't be considered family in the new family tree and by the relationship panel, and can romance each other. Basically this means whoever directly import a pair of cousins where you or pibling and nibling (imagine the scenario where you create a scenario where an orphaned child is living uncle their uncle/aunt's household, but you don't wanna create the uncle/aunt a sibling (parent of the orphaned child), and then enter live mode to kill off that sibling just so the child is for sure orphaned) from CAS would also deal with the same problem as well, which defo ruins the gameplay. and guess what, it's still not fixed yet!

I don't understand what's going on. This is the second patch with no results.

As I said in a comment on the previous version of this post seen here, the family tree issues are compounded by the issue of partners turning into siblings, that was reported at least a year ago and was never looked into more. 

This is the third version of this thread in less than a month, that in itself is ridiculous at this point and needs to be addressed.

But yes, I have this issue as well as connections just being plain wrong. One example - I had a daughter-in-law sim became the actual daughter of my family founder; it was carnage!

The family tree is also affected by not being able to set parents of pre-existing sims (first brought up 11 months ago btw...) due to what has been referred to as 'phantom parents' - basically non existent invisible placeholders that destroy the family tree and ability to use CAS full edit mode in the intended capacity when editing relationships.

Which begs the question did the team look at the relationship data? or did they just think it was only a UI issue? Because I think it might be both mixed into one with the comments consensus and the mess that is the pictured example.

The frustration is exhausting, mods can't fix this, at least for the moment but it should not be up to mod creators to make the game fundamentally functional. I personally can't play my multi legacy save until this issue is fully resolved, the word 'unplayable' gets thrown around a lot, I've said it myself in the last version of this report. But for the purpose of legacy players who rely on the family tree this is pretty game breaking.

I can't speak for everyone else but the family tree, connections and relationships are major aspects of how I play, so until its fixed the sims 4 is just a building simulator for me.

**bleep**, I was just about to try this as well 😭 I wonder if uploading each family member at a time would help. It'll be a long process for me as my King has a Queen, three concubines, twelve children, and a handful of grandchildren.