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JCBENTON
Seasoned Adventurer
1 year ago
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Smooth Apology Always Available

A werewolf sim scared a werewolf ally by being in a rampage, somehow. Ever since then, 'smooth apology' has been regularly available. I don't know if that's truly the issue, but I have another theory:

Both sims have jealousy turned off. I enjoyed New Year's with these two sims, plus two other sims who also have no jealousy. I dropped a lot of pick-up lines for the New Years event between my three guests, so perhaps the game thinks that, since under default jealousy preferences that would've been cheating, my sim has something to apologise for? If so, I really don't like that it's counting that as a transgression.

Edit By crinrict: Adjusted Title to fit old bug report.

8 Comments

  • UYAMAYU's avatar
    UYAMAYU
    Seasoned Hotshot
    1 year ago

    I think the apologies and insults are happening because there are sentiments that do "undying grudge" in the internal data, ,so please tell me how to erase those emotions.

    Once a negative sentiments such as "undying grudge" is created, the insults continue even if the memory is erased. And we continue apologizing to each other.

    I sent the save data a long time ago, but it's still not resolved. I can't use my family's recipes either because of the internal negative sentiments.

     Is there a way to deal with this on the console? I'm really stuck. Please help.

  • There's a hidden moodlet "near unfriendly" that never goes away. This has been around for a very long time. It causes Sims to have "unfriendly" interactions with each other. It predates sentiments.

    I first noticed it way back when we got DU. Two BFF Sims went to different Universities . One taunted the other and that was it for the rest of their lives. They always had the "apology" in their menus and left alone would behave badly towards each other. 

    I have never found a way to get rid of it. No mod or cheat has been able to delete it. 

  • This was a vanilla game, but I added UI Cheats to illustrate the hidden "near unfriendly" moodlet. 

    In this case Titus blackmailed Geoffrey  so it's deserved, but it can be annoying when Sims preform autonomous mean interactions and then they're stuck for life with the hidden "near unfriendly" moodlet no matter how often they apologize. 

  • I just abandoned a save over this, because my Sim has an invisible grudge that won't go away with her spouse and now also with her child. It's frustrating because there's no visible negative sentiment, but smooth apology is always available and as Uyamayu noted, it completely screwed up my ability to pass down family reciples since there's a negative sentiment that I can't see or resolve. The spouse at least makes some kind of sense (Darrel Charm went back to Emilia after he got with my Sim, they split for a while until he called and asked to be taken back and left Emilia again) and I figured I could work around it by having his sister learn recipes and pass them over to the other Sim, but their child can only be holding onto a negative sentiment from getting mad at her mom that she was paying attention to her little brother at the toddler phase which is frankly ridiculous. I stopped playing the save because I don't want to play with an aunt or something in the household forever, and I also don't want multiple generations of recipes lost because the daughter's apparently still beefing over toddlerhood...

  • allika13's avatar
    allika13
    Seasoned Rookie
    6 days ago

    I think this is the same issue:

    https://forums.ea.com/idea/the-sims-4-bug-reports-en/festering-grudge-doesnt-go-away/12389329

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