Re: SFAR is a plague fix it OP gun.
Can some one from EA can close this topic ? This is a waste of time ty 🙂
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Sfar is really fun once a kick to the right then up then left, then the spread increases much faster than with other weapon :D
M5A3 Shortbarrel + extended magazin + new laser
AC-42 100m Champion - extended magazin + new laser
- @Ne0tax What kind of trainer is this it looks cool man.
@CarreraLuuyou can host this trainings mode with the code: AANJ7Z on portal.
Dont forget to set a PW!
- @Ne0tax ahh does it support for ps4 as well?
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I'm afraid this comparison doesn't accurately reflect what happens IRL/in an actual game because targets wouldn't just stand there while being shot at. From experience (I have ~12 500 kills with the AC42), it's much harder to use the ac42 on burst mode at this distance (~100 m) if the target is moving, simply because the delay between shots is significant (~75 ms internal burst delay and 225 ms delay between bursts; bullet travel time ~125 ms for 100 m distance) - so even if you lead your shots properly, only a single shot from a burst might actually hit target. Also, it seems that you're shooting at a higher than intended rate with the AC42 in the video - again, it wouldn't have needed a buff if that were the ACTUAL RoF. At this distance, I wouldn't use any gun on burst/full-auto mode; I'd use single-fire instead - the SFAR outclasses the other ARs at range since it requires only 5 bullets to kill, while both the AC42 and M5A3 have a BTK of 6 at this range. I don't think the 150 ms difference in TTK (SFAR, 300 ms vs AC42, 450 ms) in the 30-75 m range is justified.- @Metal_Daryl97 I wanted to show in the videos that the weapon handling of the Sfar is just bad, if you start with singlefire then you no longer have the TTK as on paper. The Sfar does not need a nerf or the other a buff. Maybe they should adjust the AC-42 so that it always fires the same way without a bug. The only weapon that really needs a buff is the AK-24 which is outgunned by every weapon no matter what range and the handling doesn't feel good.
See, even Westie thinks the SFAR is a bit overpowered!
@CarreraLuu wrote:See, even Westie thinks the SFAR is a bit overpowered!
Oh well since a YouTuber/streamer said so, it's settled then.
- @Ironhead841 - even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.
I'm inclined to agree that the SFAR is a bit OP right now. There's a reason that it's so popular, and it isn't Westie. As I said before, I think it's fine it's the other ARs that need buffed.
@Ironhead841 wrote:As I said before, I think it's fine it's the other ARs that need buffed.
Yeah they need to buff my trusty AC-42 🙂
I somehow do better with it over the SFAR, horses for courses I suppose, whatever suits your playstyle works best
- @RayD_O1 When the M5a3 fails, I pull the AC-42 out with the high-powered rounds and get the job done from med range. But nowadays it just fails to keep up with the SFAR.
@Ironhead841
AC42 and AK24 need a MINOR buff. M5A3 can actually outperform the SFAR when equipped with HP rounds and shortened barrel
@Ironhead841 wrote:As I said before, I think it's fine it's the other ARs that need buffed.
I was playing BFV last night. The gunplay is a lot more satisfying - you have to actually manage recoil more than pulling down a tiny bit on the mouse while you hose the enemy with bullets.
There's a deeper issue than just nerfs or buffs, imo.
- @Metal_Daryl97 Yes I tried out the AC42 again and it is pretty bad right now.
This is why I get worked up when someone starts a nerf thread. When DICE nerfs something, they more often than not make it not worth using (with the BSV-M being the exception) - @Metal_Daryl97 Nah bro you crazy even with HP rounds and shortened barrels, I still get 3-4 hits from medium to long range from the SFAR. What you suggest only works close range.
- @UP_Hawxxeye I think the AC-42 is in a good spot. I went 50-13 with the gun the other night. The only thing about the AC-42 at time it feels like the ROF is really slow when burst firing.
Omg what we nerfing next ….fences or maybe clouds?
@CarreraLuuyeah if I am to use a weapon on single fire all the time I might as well pick a DMR. I somehow love burst weapons and do not like how it performs on burst.
It is the 3 bullet burst weapons that always perform the worst. The 2 bullet burst ones are generally butter
AK needs a massive buff
I posted some data a while ago to justify a minor buff for the ac42 - unsurprisingly, it got completely ignored by dice.
The ac42 has an unnecessarily high TTK within the 30-75 m range - it's roughly 150 ms higher than the SFAR's/M5A3's TTK. Considering how unforgiving it is at close range (there's a roughly 225 ms delay between bursts), the AC42 should perform particularly well at mid range. When shooting at a moving target (strafing or running) within the 30-75 ms range, often only a single bullet from a burst will hit the target because the subsequent two bullets are shot after a 75 and 150 ms delay.
IMO, either the RoF should be increased, with the delay within and between bursts reduced OR the damage drop-offs should start at greater distances (considering that it has a significantly slower RoF than the SFAR). Also, the hipfire accuracy should be increased because it's far easier to hit target when hipfiring full auto weapons while moving
- @Metal_Daryl97 It is also a bullpup rifle. older games used to have some pros and * about that design.
Check on sym gg - setup I recommended makes m5a3 a more forgiving version of the SFAR since it's got a higher RoF, roughly same TTK and better recoil control
- @Ironhead841 nah just put the SFAR in line with the other AR's. Messing with the other AR's will prob be problematic
- @Metal_Daryl97 I already did not sure if you saw my post with the comparison of all AR's and the SFAR still has the highest damage output of 28, while the others are around 22
