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Re: Unravel Two: game doesn't work (crash on first cut scene - AMD Phenom II)

Hi everyone,

I have merged a few threads into the same one as you are all describing the same issue with AMD Phenom II CPUs.

As these CPUs are below the minimum requirements for the game, they are not supported. If you have another computer that meets these minimum requirements, I would recommend trying the game there.

If this is not an option for you, please keep in mind the Great Game Guarantee - if that's what you want, one of our advisers will be able to tell you if you are eligible for a refund. You can contact them through EA Help.

You will find a detailed explanation on how to contact them if you need it here.

Thanks,

-Mai

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  • it doesn't seem to be just a phenom II problem. might be an amd problem in general. i have an amd a10 7850k and the game crashes to the desktop even before arriving at a cutscene. black screen whileloading and suddenly i'm back at the desktop.

    which somehow speaks against your "minimum requirements" since the 7850k is on par with the fx 4350, including support for sse4.x.

  • Hey guys, I was able to find a workaround fix for this, for those of us with the AMD Phenom II/SSE 4.2 Issue.  Despite what some have said, your hardware is most likely more than good enough to play this game!  Here's the workaround and how it came to be:

    I figured since Valentine's Day is coming up, there isn't a much sweeter game to couch co-op on than a game like Unravel.  When we first found out about it last fall, it was like a little yarn fist clenching a stone punched me in the gut when the game failed to load fully.  We were about to give up our hope of playing, when I remembered a similar issue when we tried to play 'Little Nightmares" a few months prior. While I  found the LN solution at the time, it was too late to try and we pretty much forgot about it, so this was still new territory.
     
     
    I got the idea to see if, just maybe, it might work here on Unravel 2.  I was expecting failure, but lo and behold, we were playing! 
     
     
    It might look like a lot of hoop-jumping at first, but once you do it, you'll find it's very simple. (You can even make a batch file if you're feeling adventurous).
     

    Instructions:

     
    To get this working, you'll need to use Intel's SSE4.2 Instruction set, which you can get directly from Intel (below). (Even though you have an AMD chip, it will still run.  It can be summed up as an SSE4.2 emulator.)
     
     
    1) Download the newest version for Windows here:
    (some people report AV complaining about this, but ours didn't have an issue. Either way, it's from Intel direct)  (around 17.5MB)
     
     
    2) Create a folder in your C drive.
        Name it something short so it's easy to navigate to in the command prompt in the next step.  I'll use "UV2fix" as my example folder.
     
     
    3) Unzip the file you just downloaded ("sde-external-8.16.0-2018-01-30-win.tar.bz2") to the folder you just created. 
        (It might look unfamiliar, but WinRAR will recognize that extension)
     
     
    4) Open up your command prompt with administrator privileges (via right click context menu on cmd.exe shortcut)
     
     
    5) In your command prompt console, navigate to the folder you just created:
        Enter "cd C:\UV2fix(no quotes, of course)
     
     
    6) Do not close your command prompt console window, navigate back to your desktop and start Unravel 2
        Wait for the start screen. (alt+tab)
     
     
    7) Go back to your command prompt window(alt+tab)
     
     
    8) Enter "tasklist" (no quotes). Look for your 'Unravel2.exe' and make note of it's PID (the number right next to it, which will be different every time)
     
     
    9) Enter "sde -attach-pid ####"  
     (replace ####'s with the number that you made note of in the previous step) (no quotes). If you entered it correctly, you won't get a message and it  might look like nothing happened. *Leave this window open.*
     
     
    10) Go back to Unravel 2.  
     
     
    You will probably experience some temporary loading lag either during the title screen or intro, so don't panic!).  Once you get to the gameplay it clears up where it is fully playable.  We were able to enjoy the entire game without issue other than the initial hiccup and maybe a minor hiccup near another load scene (It's been awhile since we played, I can't remember for sure). 
     
     
    As far as we know, there is still no fix for this issue on Unravel 2 or Little Nightmares.  This isn't a matter of the CPU or GPU not being able to handle the game itself!  Even with this SSE4.2 stuff having to be emulated, the gameplay itself performed as flawless as Unravel 1 did on this machine. You'd think these studios could patch this without a whole lot of effort.
     
     
    Credit goes to Steam user Jezze for posting the original workaround for Little Nightmares, which they themselves adapted from Steam user Disky's Resident Evil 7 workaround
     
     

    Let me know if you've had any success or issues. Enjoy the game!

    (Edit: Thank you to whoever approved this and let the post go through)

  • This fix works. I went through the troubleshooting process before finding this fix. The intel emulation is the solution and the intel link is legit. You will have to use this solution anytime you play Unravel 2, but it's worth it. Not sure why EA can't patch this. Game now works as good as it does on my other lesser PC.

  • hi, my command prompt says 'sde' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

    i dont know if thats normal, but either ways, it didn't work. now my game crashes at the first cutscene and force closes rather than freezing into a black screen ☹️

  • Mo_Kratos_Ultra's avatar
    Mo_Kratos_Ultra
    7 years ago

    BTW, i'm completely sure i followed the instructions correctly, ive tried leaving only command prompt and unravel2.exe open, exiting steam, and other clients, etc.

  • bivouacked's avatar
    bivouacked
    7 years ago

    Hey.  Sorry for any confusion, I'll do my best to help you out.  If it's not recognizing SDE as a command, I don't see how it would've changed the outcome of your situation since that file is not actually getting run. The original problem reported at the very start of this thread (and in the title) was about that game crashing at the first cut scene.  My memory is bad and I don't have the AMD machine I used with me to confirm if my issue was right at the cutscene or where yours originally was beforehand, but I'm pretty sure it was the cutscene. 

    Since it's not recognizing the SDE command, it really sounds like one of three things;

    1) You're not in the same directory within the command prompt that the Intel package was extracted. Make sure it didn't extract to a subfolder. The installer package comes with a subfolder within it. I failed to mention that in my instructions and you should manually move it from the subfolder it creates into your UV2fix folder or rename it to something short just to keep it clean, since the subfolder has a long awkward name to type in. Alternatively, you can navigate to the directory it creates as is (with the CD command) if you prefer. Either way, it has to be run from the folder the files reside in. I had forgotten about the automatic subfolder until I found the old screenshot).

    2) Less likely, you might not have extracted the package and just have the downloaded file sitting there in that directory still zipped up. Make sure you didn't grab the Linux or Mac version by mistake (the download page lists all 3 lumped together).

    3) There could be one tiny thing off in your syntax (i.e. make sure you didn't add the pound signs and just added the required numbers in place of them, only leave spaces where it shows, and of course don't add the quotation marks). I did that a couple times myself at first based on the other game's instructions from the Steam thread. It's easy to do.

    It should look like this:

    sde -attach-pid 8104

    The 8104 in that example will be a different number for you, which will be your own unique PID. 

    That screenshot is using a different directory name that the one I suggested in my original

    instructions in case there's confusion; that's just what I originally used.

    There you can see the annoyingly long sub directory that the unzipped file created. 

    Let us know if you were able to get it working and I'll update my original instructions so no one else is confused!

  • I have an AMD Phenom II X6 1100T processor which is more powerful than the AMD FX 6300. The game does not work because my procesor does not support SSE4.1 / 4.2. EA_Mai does not understand this. Just recompile the game code .... Who has to do it? fans ?? This is pathetic! 
    Share the source code for this game and the next day will be a working version on Phenom. You are just lazy ....
    Or maybe you have a contract with equipment manufacturers to more sales ??? :/

    I do not want to replace the processor with a weaker model.....
    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1100T-vs-AMD-FX-6300/2004vs1555

    my spec:

    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T

    16GB DDR3 RAM

    GTX 1060 6GB

    SSD 512 GB + 3TB

    which is stronger than recommended. (the only problem is the lack of support for SSE 4.1 / 4.2)


    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1100T-vs-AMD-FX-6300/2004vs1555

    https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X6-1100T-vs-AMD-FX-6300/2004vs1555

  • @bivouacked Hey there, just having the same issues with the sde not being recognised, I’ve followed everything perfectly but nothing seems to be working.. I was also wondering what you mean by this -
    “ 1) You're not in the same directory within the command prompt that the Intel package was extracted. Make sure it didn't extract to a subfolder”
    Where would I find the subfolder if that is indeed what’s happened? P.s sorry I don’t speak computer very well :P
  • bivouacked's avatar
    bivouacked
    5 years ago

    Hey...

    Go to the directory you made in the command prompt terminal:

    type:

    cd uv2fix

    Then list the files in that directory:

    type:

    dir

    Anything with a <DIR> in front of it is a directory or sub-directory.  In my screenshot that really long annoying one starting with sde-external-8.35 is the long one it automatically poops out from the example in my previous post. It's easier to not have to navigate to a long folder name like that, so I have the sde.exe files in the UV2fix directory so I ran them right from there by typing the command like in the first post.


    If the exe & bat file isn't listed with the dir command, but the directory with the name similar to sde-external-8.35.0-2019-03-11-win is, you navigate to it by typing:

    cd sde-external-8.35.0-2019-03-11-win

    (your numbers will probably be different here too, so type as it shows on your end as you'll probably have a newer version than that example)

    do another file listing there

    dir

    and the exe files and bat file should show. 

    run it as shown in the first post

    Hope this makes sense. if not i'll follow up best I can. I'm not great when it comes to tech support

    Ps 

    If you'd rather, you can also rename the annoyingly long directory name from windows first to something short without spaces and dashes. Directories and sub-directories shown in windows are just your folders and sub-folders.  if you have that folder, that is.(right click the folder and click rename). If you do this, you navigate to it in the command prompt terminal the same way shown with the cd command above.

  • I've tried this method hoping that works but keeps crashing..  I can only see the first animated scene then crash,  and version on particular of the sde?  I've phenom 1090T r390x 16 gb

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