Re: [Feedback] F1® 24 - Share your thoughts

EA definitely won't see it this way, but the correlation is so abundantly clear, that since they took over this game franchise, it has gone rapidly downhill faster than the overpowered AI in F122!

There are so many issues and things that absolutely have to be improved. I've never known any other game of any type of genre on the planet with as many bugs. Additionally some of the bugs the game launched with is an absolute joke.

Literally rushed out with zero care and attention and then charge the loyal customers £90! Oh and while they're at it, let's destroy the online store and make people grind for helmets and race wear.

My absolute biggest gripe since EA took over and destroyed it, is their absolute persistence in coming up with gimmicks and unrealistic material that doesn't belong in specifically an F1 game.

If they just concentrated on doing the basics correct instead of wasting recourses on the nonsense they keep churning out, then everyone would be delighted.

F125 has to be a night and day improvement in absolutely every area throughout. From the addition of more helmets, more general race wear, dramatically improved AI, better engine sounds and a much improved handling model, just to name a few.

My bet is all the suggestions within this thread will be completely ignored and they will dream up another load of fictional twaddle to try and implement into F125.

I'm afraid if that is the case then F125 will sell even less than F124. It's absolutely in their own interests to deliver a game that actually works and to implement what people have been asking for.

I will briefly summarize my wishes once again:
- A real simulator mode with pit lane and always clutch
- A real telemetry in game without ALT+Tab via mods, it's all been there since GP4 and F1 99
-Remove F1 World, put TT and co back in the main menu, reintroduce rain mode for TT. Or just a test track with weather, where the pit can also be driven without autopilot
-If tire temps and brakes bring a new physics, make it tangible, not such a wishy-washy between consoles and wheels. Make 2 modes out of it and let them play separately.
-Sound in the replay again away from sampling, idea good, implementation completely wrong, it never fits.
-If multiplayer, separate consoles or pads from wheels, both under one hat will not work without compromises for one party
-The whole crossover idea is nice, but won't work for all sides, the hardware is just too different. Make it optional somehow. If PC vs console, yes, but then selectable and filterable in lists. All the lists are wrong anyway. Assist is at eye level against without assist. Ranking list shows everything. totally stupid. Hm, simulation is never wanted by default.

Too bad the license went to such a philosophy -.-

@TomasSlb24Agreed, EA should just leave Codemasters to it and not get involved. They simply don't have a clue when it comes to F1 games.

Everything they have tried to create and implement has been a complete disaster. F1 fans want as much realism from a game as possible and not gimmicks.

Just look at the huge downward spiral since they took over.

I would like to take up the cudgels for CM:
When the release came, with 1.2, I was blown away, visually nothing had changed, the first feeling for the car, well, it was snappy, very direct and it was something completely different. Mind you, I drive on the PC with a Fanatec. But it was really cool with it, somehow different.

Then came 1.3, I was sick of it, I wanted to have the 1.2 again, only not quite so twitchy on the rear axle.
Then came 1.6 and so on, it slowly became like f1 23 or worse.

1.2 wasn't perfect, but it was fun, the car was suddenly direct at last, it went well around tight bends and didn't make any mistakes on the rear axle, it was a completely new feeling and it was really fun. Slowly a trace of it is coming back, but it's not the same feeling anymore.

I would like to thank all console and GamePad gamers for this. At last there was an F1 title on the market that was cool purely in terms of driving. Now there's hardly anything left except a snorey title that nobody is happy with anymore. Thank you EA/CM for having unskillfully missed all the flies you were aiming for. You really had a good slap in the face. Send one get one, once with professionals

@IanM282 @TomasSlb24 

It's honestly kinda impressive to see just how bad EA has fumbled this series.

They have the licence of the biggest Motorsport series during its biggest boom period. And this is the best they can do. 

Although Codemasters do need to shoulder some blame, for a company that's been making racing games since 1987. F124 makes them look like a bunch of amateurs. Looking through the inexcusable bugs introduced in the latest patch, the basics seem too much for them to handle. 

If these guys are serious about trying to win back fan trust. Something serious needs to be done. 

But I just know that the first f125 trailer will feature the line "revamped F1world" and that's when I'll give up on this series entirely. 

@TomasSlb24Have to completely agree with that. I'm not overly familiar with many EA games to be honest. But when it was solely just Codemasters making the game, it was night and day better.

If EA want to ensure some future success with the series, then I think they have to just let Codemasters get on with it.

The ideas that EA have drummed up and implemented are so far detached from what we all want in the game. They surely have to now realise it's just not working. Sales figures alone should tell them that quite clearly.

If they are serious in resurrecting the game from the depths it has plummeted to since they took over. Then they need to listen to the community and implement the changes we have come up with.

They of course can not please everyone, but a lot of what's been said in this thread alone is just basic simple stuff.

It is absolutely imperative that they get the basics and fundamentals correct for F125 and not come up with another gimmick and unrealistic nonsense that doesn't belong in the game.

How hard is it to create a basic helmet editor? By implementing one alone would be more welcomed by the community than F1 world and fanzone! Which are just a complete waste of time and resources. At second best at least create more helmet designs and put them in the store.

In my opinion they also either have to address the amount of game breaking bugs in the game or have a much faster turn around time for resolving them. 

The QA testing for F124 was beyond shambolic. This also has to be much better for F125.

I really hope that people from EA are serious about reading this entire thread that has been created.

They have a great opportunity to turn things around for F125. I along with everyone else truly hope they do.

@TomasSlb24Agreed, you also touched on a very good point there regarding those who are able to modify and edit things on the game to improve it. Unfortunately for me and a lot of others who play on consoles are stuck with the game in its current state, which is absolutely rubbish.

The fact that the modders who created these adjustments to improve things can generally do it easily and in no time, says a lot about the mindset of EA who are more interested in creating Fanzone than rectifying everything that is wrong with the game in the first place.

If these people can improve the game in what is probably every area, why can't the game be programmed much better by the developers in the first place?

They honestly should just hire a passionate F1 fan as part of their team who has knowledge of the sport. Since EA took over it's as far away from F1 as I've ever known.

Hey, I applaud them for asking. Not all firms would care to find out. Hopefully some of these ideas can get into future games. I understood from 2021 that FOM set constraints on what could be done. 

To be honest I really like f1 24 obviously it could be improved. For improvements in the future (future games) I feel like we should be able to actually change the look of our my team car like sidepods ect. These models can be taken from the 2022 cars and 2023 cars this would be a fun idea at least. And for more creativity it would awesome to have the option in audio settings to go from v6 engines to v8 and v10 or even v12, this would be something console users would love to see. As for the menus I think take a good look at 2012 and see what made that games menus look awesome, even though it’s a old look f1 2012 really has a great opening screen and menu, I’m sure it would look just as good in 2025 or 2026. The handling is fine I guess other than some rear end stability that’s about it. This may never be looked at by the creators of f1 games but if it is this is what really would be cool. This all could be added up from late 2025 and further even though it takes time, time makes a good game. Maybe instead of making a new game ever year release a game called Formula 1 and have features from current f1 games but make it so you can play different eras. I wouldn’t care if you had to pay to play the 2016 era so as long as it’s with the new graphics and I can change form 2016 to 2023 for example. Make it so that you have one game and you pay to unlock different f1 seasons. A lot of people may not like paying but it would potentially be one of the best things to do and yolo it.

So yea that’s what I guess I would want do read it if you’d don’t want to i don’t really care it’s just what would be nice to see in the game.

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@IanM282 wrote:

EA definitely won't see it this way, but the correlation is so abundantly clear, that since they took over this game franchise, it has gone rapidly downhill faster than the overpowered AI in F122!

There are so many issues and things that absolutely have to be improved. I've never known any other game of any type of genre on the planet with as many bugs. Additionally some of the bugs the game launched with is an absolute joke.

Literally rushed out with zero care and attention and then charge the loyal customers £90! Oh and while they're at it, let's destroy the online store and make people grind for helmets and race wear.

My absolute biggest gripe since EA took over and destroyed it, is their absolute persistence in coming up with gimmicks and unrealistic material that doesn't belong in specifically an F1 game.

If they just concentrated on doing the basics correct instead of wasting recourses on the nonsense they keep churning out, then everyone would be delighted.

F125 has to be a night and day improvement in absolutely every area throughout. From the addition of more helmets, more general race wear, dramatically improved AI, better engine sounds and a much improved handling model, just to name a few.

My bet is all the suggestions within this thread will be completely ignored and they will dream up another load of fictional twaddle to try and implement into F125.

I'm afraid if that is the case then F125 will sell even less than F124. It's absolutely in their own interests to deliver a game that actually works and to implement what people have been asking for.

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F1 25 will just bring polished handling and whatnot. But all those fundamental changes that were suggested here is due somewhere beyond F1 26. Sad but true. 😑

@Blackbird90Couldn't agree more. If it is that way, then I along with many others, I would imagine won't be buying it for top price, or at all.

If only they actually listened and cared about their customers, they could increase their profits massively. My bet is F125 will be another disaster due to absolute failure to listen to the community (again)!

The community issues page finally got updated with absolutely nothing, no new issues despite GLARING issues in career mode and just in general. Very upsetting still nothing about #1 or drivers not retiring like in real life. What are we actually doing here man. 

Just seen the update to the community issues....

Have to laugh now...

No new updates since 1.10 broke the game.

CM/EA have no interest in F124 anymore and you can tell.

Needless to say, the playerbase is slowly reducing too

The game is very very bad but it’s not broken.  You don’t get refunds for buying bad products after 3-4 months.   Thats down to the consumer for not doing necessary research by watching/reading reviews before buying.   State off gaming these days.  I never buy into the marketing rubbish or gaming news media that’s in the pocket off AAA companies. I don’t buy any new releases game for atleast a month after it launches.   Then I think I’ve waited this long… May aswell wait until it goes on sale.  Within 3 months off release you can get up to 50% discount.  

if everyone done the same it would force AAA companies to develop better products 

it could also be that they remove the license for the 26th 

For the most part I’m OK with the game, and I still enjoy destressing for 30 min after work each day. My 2 issues are Brazil (which I just avoid) and the DRS trains. The game is not better now than when I bought it and my main complaint about customization for My Team has fallen on deaf ears.

Some other issues would require more work, like being able to change the AI when restarting a session (a feature that did exist at one point). Or the ability to change the AI mid session ( to deal with weather) or the ability to turn weather off altogether (another low hanging fruit option)

But I know the game can be broken with the next patch, that is partly the issue with games now. You can’t really say the game is 4.5 months old when each patch effectively creates a new game.

I think it was 2019 or 2018 when the game was great for me, and then a patch addressed traction and created a situation where I was fine in the dry and the wet but would be 2 seconds off the pace in the transition. No matter what I would lose 10 seconds over the 5 laps where the track went from one to the other. Game goes from close to brilliant to painfully bad at several races a season. 

Some player options could fix the risks of patches making the game worse but in the end we could pay for what is perceived to be a perfect F1 game to have it broken the day after we buy it, or 4 months later. 

So for game companies, like car manufacturers, it is about trust. Do I trust them to make a good product this year? That trust is based on their history of making good products. My last 2 examples are 22 and 24. Not sure where I am at on that one heading towards 25. 

So even if F1 25 75th anniversary edition or whatever it will be called comes out to rave player reviews, is there incentive to oay full price for a game that can be broken at any moment with an errant patch?