Re: Ttk changes apex legends

The biggest problem with Apex's high time to kill is the fact that making big plays really doesn't happen all that often. That's going to make players leave by itself. 

I think increasing base magazine sizes for all guns will go a long way towards fixing the ttk problem. The biggest factor in determining damage per second in any shooter, is the size of a weapon's magazine. You are doing zero damage while reloading, you'd deal more damage before needing to reload, while leaving the damage per bullet alone. The time to kill would feel a lot less aggravating if the overall damage per second was raised by increasing all base magazine sizes. We'd still need to maintain aim even with larger mags, but it would feel a lot better actually killing players who have poor situational awareness. Alternator should start with at least a 22 round mag, same for all assualt rifles. Wingman's mag is fine, so are the LMG's, so are snipers (except the Scout), and shotgun mags are fine because they're already the best cqc guns. The shotguns and the Spitfire are good because they have relatively great damage per second. They can maintain a consistent damage output over time, everything else has to reload. 

I'm really impressed.
10 pages in and logan didn't bring a single argument outside "i think, i like, i want".

My dude to all the people that want lower TTk, you know when you drop in the supply ship and hells break lose, people run scream get mauled by the first dude that gets a shottie? That's what will happen with the game.
People are complaining about flanking teams unloading on them and they don't die; try to hit your shots. Don't simply shoot in their general direction.

The fact that you think that just because you flanked a team you deserve the kills is straight up wrong. Because it's a 60 player match. Unless you camp you will always get flanked and the idea that you think you need to die because you got flanked is insane. That would make the game slotmachine, not a FPS.

TTK right now is fine, if you think that others BR are better because of the lower TTK then your problem is solved right?

PS: lets not forget that this game has way more mobility than the others FPS, not as much as Titanfall but still, turning this game in a average BR were people camp and wait to get the first shot? Ewwww.

PS2: @ragnarokfps i'm pretty sure that first we need to nerf the Peacekeeper. Then we can take a look at SMGs. I don't particularly think SMGs need more ammo when most people hipfire with it; and no if you don't aim properly with it shouldn't take a single clip to down with it. BUT the peacekeeper is so much better than SMGs that i don't even think that this discussion is relevant right now.

The TTK is high because of the ridiculous lag. If your shot's were connecting like they should most guns have enough ammo in 1 clip to kill 3 unarmored enemies.

"I told you exactly why the population numbers are going to suffer and what decision Respawn/EA is going to have to make." in your opinion.
In the same thread there's as much as people wanting to keep the TTK. It's so funny to say that i'm biased when you think your opinion is an argument.
And you don't realize that everything you said can be used the same way against reducing the TTK.,

"There's enough replies in this thread alone supporting the high TTK to show that there are a lot of people supporting it. Including the (likely) millions of player who don't come to the forums to support and are enjoying the game."

See. pretty much the same thing you said and can be used against you. That's why it's an opinion; not an argument. You can bring an argument any time now.
Because like i said. Most people seen to be ok with the game the way it is. And at the end of the day if you want a BR like the others BR; play the others BR?

The fact that you flood and yells more doesn't make you right, or even what you think a valid argument by the way.

"You can't just turn my works around to substantiate your argument."

I'm not doing it. Because neither is a argument. Like i said before you are saying your OPINION is a valid argument, when that same line can be used to defend anything. That happens because it's an opinion, not a argument.

An argument would be "I made a research and there's X numbers of people defending reduced TTK against Y that are ok with that TTK".
That's a argument, i cannot use that number against you just changing the order or the words.

And you want to talk big but you are going against what ANY dev worth a cent, they would tell you that you are wrong.
https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/127922/Opinion_Player_Metrics_Vs_The_Vocal_Minority.php
in fact:

https://www.google.com/search?biw=1920&bih=937&ei=hUloXO7HM_y65OUPoIGi8Ao&q=gamasutra+player+feedback+vocal+minority&oq=gamasutra+player+feedback+vocal+minority

Also stop the ad hominem. That just show how you don't have a argument yourself and instead you try to make me lookd like a fool. Because believe me if i want to i can bring some real quotes from some serious devs and unlike you i will show that it's not my opinion. It's coming from people that have successful games.

@bmw_tre 

Then that's your problem. At the very least you should be the one with full shield and the enemy should be the one with no shield, or using shield battery/medkits like a madman. You already got a clear advantage and got outplayed.

Like i said: You shouldn't get awarded a kill "Just" because you managed to flank someone. Your problem is EXACTLY what we are talking about. You already got a advantage by flanking someone, but instead you want a kill.

PS: if we do what you said then people will start to camp. Hell people already camp like there's no tomorrow. Just because they can get the advantage in the fight. If they are rewarded a kill the game will be another average BR where past 5 minutes everyone is inside a building waiting for enemies.

PS2: "It happens, quit trying to shove * under the rug."
No one is trying to shove under the rug, because that's what we are saying it should happen. Again, you shouldn't get a free kill because you flanked someone.

Lol, dont worry brother, the game will be tweaked. 

"you don't deserve a kill" lmao you're a clown. 

Low TTK = More camping players, because aggressive players will be easier to deal with since it takes less bullets to kill them.

@bmw_tre now legit what makes you think you deserve a kill where you got the jump in the guy shoot him first and got him down in health/shield and he still kill you?

I mean you clearly didn`t do enough damage. What makes you think you should get the kill? Because you saw him first? Maybe i'm wrong but this a shooter game not hide and seek.

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@TrueDivinorium wrote:

@bmw_tre now legit what makes you think you deserve a kill where you got the jump in the guy shoot him first and got him down in health/shield and he still kill you?

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It's called rewarding strategy and tactics.

At the end of the day the people who shoot like a potato aren't going to win anyway, but what we're already seeing is people that have even halfway decent skill tactics don't work (the way they should).

People seem to forget that this game also have abilities, what good would the abilities do if you killed a player within 0.5 seconds with an SMG or AR? This game isn't PUBG, get over it!

Logan, why don't you tell us how fast you want people to get killed in this game then? Because a good shooter can empty a full magazine in to a player and the player is dead within a couple of seconds.

@TrueDivinorium 

I stoped trying :') just leave these crybaby plebs.
Respawn has a brain, they wont change for these casual COD campers :')

I think the time to kill is too high.  I think increasing the magazine size is a change that is going to come.  We also need to see more ammo in general.  When it takes 20 bullets to knock someone and another 10 to kill them and then they can still be rezzed then why am I running around with an SMG with 18 rounds in the clip.  A reload simulator is not fun for anyone.