Forum Discussion

Re: Bring back old store recolors!

@FreelancerWhisky I think the bundles are a nice addition to the store which needed some serious changes implemented for a long time. I do agree that their profits would skyrocket if they had better skins or a better store rotation, since the game released i've only ever purchased 2 skins with red tokens, but I have purchased a bunch of event items and random skins. Players like limited time items, that is what makes them special and persuades people to buy them.

What I would personally suggest with the store is 1 featured box where it gives you a choice of alternate skins every single week for a legendary weapon skin you ALREADY have so I can finally start using my stockpiled currency.

13 Replies

  • FaIIenAngeI777's avatar
    FaIIenAngeI777
    6 years ago

    @MoNosDirtyGamingIve only bought 2 exclusives aswell... I got one for the gold dragon g7 and one for my merciless wingman skin about a month ago

    I do agree the bundles are a nice touch but one thing I noticed was that if you already owned an item in the bundle the price wasn't any cheaper so they should make it cheaper if you already own 1 or more of the items in the bundle

    I would love for them to either bring back old exclusives on rotation or change the requirement to both skins (that look the same) for example the red bloodhound skin has had 2 exclusives while my orange and blue one has had 0... i think the last exclusive was meant for the one I own but respawn messed up and did the red version twice it just seems the requirement is almost always the opposite of the versions I own which makes me feel like apex packs are rigged to give versions that have already had exclusives and won’t have  new exclusives for awhile

  • Alphabets's avatar
    Alphabets
    6 years ago

    Already champions like Revenant, even 4 months after their release, still didn't get even a single recolor, and you want previous ones to come back? How many mirage or bloodhound recolors people need?!

  • FreelancerWhisk's avatar
    FreelancerWhisk
    6 years ago

    Here's the thing: I am okay with ACTUAL limited time events. Every limited time event has a trailer, an in-game quest that gives out free rewards, is generally 2 weeks or longer, has an official website announcement before the event even STARTS, etc. Skins for limited time events are designed specifically for that event.

    However, we are talking about RECOLORS of existing skins. There are no new assets, no trailer, no extended period of time to puchase, no free rewards, NOTHING. If you don't check the store one week out of 365 days you will miss it forever. I would not be so mad if the recolors were announced ahead of time, were specifically mentioned as limited-time only, had a grace period of more than 3-5 days to purchase them, had a website announcement and trailer to raise awareness, and were not just mere paint jobs of EXISTING skins that people have already purchased.

    I like your suggestion of having a sort of secondary store that changes every day and checks your inventory and offers recolors based on what you already own. That'd be a nice solution.

  • @Alphabets 


    Then expand the store! Why is this so difficult? It's DIGITAL you can just add another tab for recolors like Respawn already did with Heirlooms. Are you telling me it's not within their capabilities?

  • DaAceXD's avatar
    DaAceXD
    6 years ago

    @FreelancerWhisky wrote:

    @Alphabets 


    Then expand the store! Why is this so difficult? It's DIGITAL you can just add another tab for recolors like Respawn already did with Heirlooms. Are you telling me it's not within their capabilities?


    The fact they make something last 5 days and then it will never come back increases the sales by A LOT.

    The ''Buy now or forever to late'' method is used all over the world to make people buy things they maybe don't even want just in case.

    Bringing old skins back and making the skins i got back then less exclusive will ensure i will never buy another exclusive item in the apex shop ever again.

  • @DaAceXD Or it infuriates players who have real life engagements and may have not been able to play for a few days and find out they missed the one chance per year they had at a cosmetic they wanted.

    No I disagree with once per year rotation on an exclusive color variation, much more money to be made with a 1 or 2 day exclusive rotation where if you log on daily you may see that exclusive you've been waiting for. Not once per week.
  • DaAceXD's avatar
    DaAceXD
    6 years ago

    @Pure_Funk_Nugget wrote:
    @DaAceXDOr it infuriates players who have real life engagements and may have not been able to play for a few days and find out they missed the one chance per year they had at a cosmetic they wanted.

    No I disagree with once per year rotation on an exclusive color variation, much more money to be made with a 1 or 2 day exclusive rotation where if you log on daily you may see that exclusive you've been waiting for. Not once per week.

    Tou snooze you lose, 

    counts for everything in life....

    also apex exclusive skins.

  • @DaAceXD

    You're painfully wrong and don't know what you're talking about. Number one, the recolors do not even cost Apex Coins/real money, they cost LEGEND TOKENS. Number two, most of the playerbase doesn't even know about them because they're never advertised and there's no hype around them. I 100% guarantee that 80-90% of the playerbase do not know what the skins that I listed in the opening post look like, because barely anyone pays attention to the crappy rotating store. And finally, BECAUSE they are limited time only it means that people will actually refuse to buy the skin associated with the recolor since they're not sure whether it will actually come back.

    Imperial Warrior looks awful. I would never put it on my Bloodhound. However, I WOULD buy Imperial Warrior if The Great Winter was in the shop but it's not so that's 1.8k coins that EA missed out on me. The lost revenue can easily skyrocket into the millions.
  • DaAceXD's avatar
    DaAceXD
    6 years ago

    @FreelancerWhisky wrote:
    @DaAceXD

    You're painfully wrong and don't know what you're talking about. Number one, the recolors do not even cost Apex Coins/real money, they cost LEGEND TOKENS. Number two, most of the playerbase doesn't even know about them because they're never advertised and there's no hype around them. I 100% guarantee that 80-90% of the playerbase do not know what the skins that I listed in the opening post look like, because barely anyone pays attention to the crappy rotating store. And finally, BECAUSE they are limited time only it means that people will actually refuse to buy the skin associated with the recolor since they're not sure whether it will actually come back.

    Imperial Warrior looks awful. I would never put it on my Bloodhound. However, I WOULD buy Imperial Warrior if The Great Winter was in the shop but it's not so that's 1.8k coins that EA missed out on me. The lost revenue can easily skyrocket into the millions.


    ''You're painfully wrong and don't know what you're talking about''

    I know exacly what im talking about. Since it is about me.

    I <-----  ME   won't spend any more money on skins and packages in the future if they return the exclusive skins.

    And im sure there are A LOT of people with me on that.

    I played and supported the game on Day 1 and i and all those people deserve that have a unique skins that won't come back and make it a boring to be seen everywhere skin.

    And its the same thing for the people that supported the game on day 100.

    Next to that You say they would make a quick $ on doing that.

    YES you are right.

    And after that all the new exclusives they bring out won't be bought by me and all those people that got stabbed in the back that supported the game on day1.

    Our unique skins are now no longer unique and exclusive.

    Also you think that your solution has not been on the minds or even discussed at EA?

    You don't need to be a genius to know this is a easy solution to make a quick $.

    But future sells will be rock bottom because the community that bought the  ''EXCLUSIVE" skin suddenly know that those skins are not exclusive anymore.

    EA has people that do this stuff for a living and know exacly what happens when they do that.

    Thats why they proberly won't do it.

    They are interested in making a lot of money.

    Not in making you mad.

    This method is used all over the world.

    People LOVE exclusive and limited editions.

    Thats why you can even get a limited edition exclusive toaster these days.

    Guess what happens when you turn something that is supposed to be excluse into a normal product for everybody to guy again.

    They won't buy the excluse products they offer in the future because most people don't get scammed twice.

  • @DaAceXD
    Again you have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to think we are discussing actual skins that cost money such as Voidwalker which were actually exclusive and limited time only. We are talking about RECOLORS get that through your skull. RECOLORS DO NOT COST APEX COINS OR REAL MONEY. Thus, you didn't even spend anything to support Respawn/EA in order to get them. The idea that you could somehow be pissed off when you got something for free tells me that you're exceptionally stupid.
  • DaAceXD's avatar
    DaAceXD
    6 years ago

    @FreelancerWhisky 

    Most people have to spend 18,- to get the legendary required to get the recolor.

    The chance you have the skin required for the recoler from basic packages is real low.

    What i also notice is that the DEVS know exacly what character you play more.

    I noticed that all my friends don't get legendary's of the character they are playing.

    Most people want to buy a recolor of a character they are playing.

    So most people will have to grab their wallet.

    If you pay 18,- for a recolor it better stay exclusive.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=wraith+gold+skin&sxsrf=ALeKk02mTEcgLxHveIzWbIE3NvKgu4TTEA:1591522401697&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=6YqDncDsVbX-TM%253A%252C4rQ2yHfspE8G3M%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRC7sIrO97BeGq0Wrq0UyfODf-LbA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiFtZ77su_pAhWE_qQKHTl-DUgQ9QEwBnoECAIQKA&biw=1920&bih=969#imgrc=6YqDncDsVbX-TM:

    This is my main example that i would verry much like to never see in the store again.

    Guess what: Its a recolor.

    Again:

    Another system verry well tought up by EA to get maximum profit.

    Its not a coincidence its like this.

    There was not just 1 guy that quickly made the concept of the Apex legends store.

    I dare to bet everything i have that, A LOT of tought and discussion went over the main source of income for apex legends.

    If you make skins 9,- will they sell 2x more?

    If you make them 1,- will they sell 18x more?

    If you re-use skins will the same amount of people still buy future skins?

    If you make a skin 36,- will 0,5 if the people still buy the skin?

    Do you have that information/Data?
    I'm sure EA has it.

    But you seem to know better then all the experts at EA and the information and testing and experience they have selling virutual products.

    Since everybody else has no idea what they are alking about and are excepionally stupid.

    Especialy since your idea is not that unique its hard for me to understand that you seem to be unable to grasp the fact that EA maybe already considered this or tried it in the past.

    So after breaking down all your other reasons that recolors should re-apear in the store.

    The only reason you think they should come back is because you want them to come back.

    And yes im also not happy with the current way the store is.

    But like many things in the gaming world these days.

    its all about max profits.

    They don't care if a skin stays exclusive or gets reused, If they are outrageously priced or not.

    Its all about what gives them the most money and least problems.

  • @DaAceXD

    No they wouldn't pay. You know how I know? Because you can go for months without seeing anything you like and it is more luck and chance based on skins you have already purchased more than anything else.

    You know last week they had 4 shop displays exclusively on a bundle of lifeline charms? Think about that bundle for a second. A bundle for 4 charms - and yet each gun can only put 1 charm on at a time, and people would generally choose their favorite charm and stick with it. So what was the purpose of including 2 or 3 other charms in the bundle? Most of the playerbase doesn't even care about charms and the ones who do care would generally only select one so what the hell was the point of that bundle in the first place?

    You seem to think that just because EA/Respawn are large companies and have many people working for them that they are incapable of making mistakes. If you have ever worked for a large company you will know that past a certain point if upper management decides on a course of action everyone will have to fall in line even if they privately may think it is really stupid or have severe disagreements on the wisdom of such a move. They are not infallible. How much money did you think those charm bundles made for EA? Let's say Apex's playerbase is 70 million and 1% of the population bought the bundle. That's still over 69 million who never spent a single cent on that garbage. And you try to tell me with a straight face that that's smart business planning?

    You know a competitor like Fortnite has a battle pass system that's so generous that by completing it you can earn up to 1500 premium currency so not only can you afford the next battle pass but you also get enough premium currency to spend on other stuff you want? Fortnite is the most successful videogame of the 21st century profit-wise so far - you think EA is making more money than them? Wrong again.

    Finally you seem to think that they have actually run control experiments to determine optimal shop configurations when they actually haven't. I don't remember a time when skins didn't cost 1.8k coins, or charms cost 250/500 coins, etc. They have never changed their prices so they don't even have data on whether or not a lower price would sell more. All they can do is guess and in that regard their guess is as good as mine.
  • II-LAZZARUS-II's avatar
    II-LAZZARUS-II
    6 years ago
    @FreelancerWhisky thats wrong, they have alreqady lowered some prizes. Sometimes you can buy things for 1200 Coins instead of 1800.

    And the second thing is, is it really that hard for you to log in once in 5 days to look whats in store if this is so important for you.

About Apex Legends Feedback

Give feedback about the Legends, maps, weapons, loot and more in the Apex Legends community forums.33,464 PostsLatest Activity: 2 hours ago