I don't know why I decided to play ranked on pc again even though I know it's 90% cheaters, but I tried it tonight and bullets go straight through every enemy without doing any damage. Is this happening to anyone else? It wasn't in pubs, but just in ranked. Could this be from the cheats they use in ranked or is it a bug going on right now?It wasn't just me either, several Randoms I was with had their bullets go straight through enemies even at point blank range. I know this game has an ongoing problem of hits not registering, but usually you at least get 1 or 2 shots to register, tonight none did any damage, all zero stats. Weird.

@AymCTLThe game just feels awful. I take damage so quickly almost every single round. If I even peek someone, it usually means that they have already depleted my shields before I can fire off one round. It feels like I'm not playing on the same time line as others is how I would describe it.I don't know if there's a cheat to do that or what, but something feels way off. Some players will just take no damage, like you can't find their hit box.Once in a while I'll get a game where my shots feel spot on. I'll consistently knock people with one clip instead of having a super drawn out fight where I just can't seem to damage them.Another thing that happens far too frequently, is that when I catch someone off guard, I'll get them down to 25hp, then they'll just snap to me and get me down to 25hp instantly. Like they don't even consider going to cover to figure out where they're getting shot from. Instead they snap to me and land all their shots instantly. There's so many cheaters, it's unbelievable how rampant it is. I doubt anyone knows what a completely legit round feels like anymore.The game is dying because most people don't want to put up with this anymore. I'm just waiting for another shooter to come along to take the place of this, which there are several on the horizon. Apex is fun when the gunfights feel fair, but they rarely do.

@AymCTL Just to be clear, I was being sarcastic and "must be skill issue" was directed towards myself. I think we're on the same page, but just in case.@DeepBeats In other games with Crossplay, the hit reg can be off, but in Apex there's no consistency. It's always "good" players that can beam me, but I can't get a single shot to register 15 feet away. I've also been dying to people before the shots get registered. I die instantly without getting any damage feedback.The dual Mozams is yet another example of bad game design amplifying poor hit reg, desync, low tick rate server, and the cheating problem. You can't lower the TTK without fixing the other stuff. This is very, VERY, basic game design stuff for shooters.

@WhoopFighter Another thing that i notice is that many poeple's movement dont even flinch when being shot at meanwhile i get * to the ground which makes them harder to hit and easier to down me. But well that could go hand to hand with the bullet registration problem.The game just have too many issues and the developers keep adding more problems on top of the existing ones.

@DeepBeats I hate the slowdown mechanic. Like you said, it doesn't seem to affect everyone equally. Some characters, like Gibby, have the fortified perk so that they are immune to slowdown. I've seen plenty of characters without the perk also seem immune to it as well.That's the thing about cheaters these days. They can do all sorts of minor things that eventually add up to big advantages. There's no need to rage hack and get caught anymore. Manually watching a player, with 20 ticks, it's going to be hard to detect cheaters without having any doubts.Another thing that I've noticed, is that I take damage in the storms on the beginning of each tick. Enemies with far less health than I do, they seem to outlast me quite often outside of the ring. I don't get it.

@AymCTL This is exactly what I've been facing for so long time. Take a look at my video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmhcTcjREk0I can't ever make a clean clutch situation because of this *. Every shots will have RnG registration lol

Bullets go straight through enemies in pc ranked

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WhoopFighter
9 months ago
@AymCTLThe game just feels awful. I take damage so quickly almost every single round. If I even peek someone, it usually means that they have already depleted my shields before I can fire off one round. It feels like I'm not playing on the same time line as others is how I would describe it.

I don't know if there's a cheat to do that or what, but something feels way off. Some players will just take no damage, like you can't find their hit box.

Once in a while I'll get a game where my shots feel spot on. I'll consistently knock people with one clip instead of having a super drawn out fight where I just can't seem to damage them.

Another thing that happens far too frequently, is that when I catch someone off guard, I'll get them down to 25hp, then they'll just snap to me and get me down to 25hp instantly. Like they don't even consider going to cover to figure out where they're getting shot from. Instead they snap to me and land all their shots instantly. There's so many cheaters, it's unbelievable how rampant it is. I doubt anyone knows what a completely legit round feels like anymore.

The game is dying because most people don't want to put up with this anymore. I'm just waiting for another shooter to come along to take the place of this, which there are several on the horizon. Apex is fun when the gunfights feel fair, but they rarely do.
WhoopFighter
9 months ago
@AymCTL Just had a round with ZERO registration on an enemy standing still. I could not find their hit box...

Last round win the round with 2k carrying my teammates, this round can't even get one shot to register on this guy standing still. Must be a skill issue.
AymCTL
Seasoned Ace
9 months ago
@WhoopFighter No, it isn't a skill issue. Before season 20 I was getting 5 or 6 kills per game on switch. When season 20 started bullets did little to no damage. PC had the same thing happen when season 22 started. It has something to do with changes they made to the game servers when these new seasons started.

Switch is actually more playable right now than pc even though it still has its share of issues.

I think they should temporarily shut down the pc version and do a major overhaul of the system. Maybe put in new servers and check the code of the game to see why shots don't hit or why they go through walls and crates. It's getting so ridiculous now.
DeepBeats
Seasoned Adventurer
9 months ago
@AymCTL I see this a lot against console players in my pc lobbies. Bullets will just go through without even registering as hits and its not just 1 but many.
WhoopFighter
9 months ago
@AymCTL Just to be clear, I was being sarcastic and "must be skill issue" was directed towards myself. I think we're on the same page, but just in case.

@DeepBeats In other games with Crossplay, the hit reg can be off, but in Apex there's no consistency. It's always "good" players that can beam me, but I can't get a single shot to register 15 feet away. I've also been dying to people before the shots get registered. I die instantly without getting any damage feedback.

The dual Mozams is yet another example of bad game design amplifying poor hit reg, desync, low tick rate server, and the cheating problem. You can't lower the TTK without fixing the other stuff. This is very, VERY, basic game design stuff for shooters.
MrGreenWithAGun
New Ace
9 months ago
One can look to the netcode as to why hits don’t register until you shoot forward squarely on a target that neither moved 1s before you pulled the trigger nor 1s after. If they were motionless the server could not possibly adjudicate a different location.
i have seen that on apex and I cannot explain it. The “cheaters” would have had to hack the server to get the server to adjudicate a miss like that.
so what’s wrong with the server?
I wonder?
r1ggedgame
Seasoned Ace
9 months ago
I have reported on this some months after the introduction of crossplay around season 7.
happend not that often but often enough to be annoying.
now several years have past and a lot more people facing the same issue.
Its pretty much the same case as with Aim Assist , they know somethings off for years ... but sweep it under the rug.
DeepBeats
Seasoned Adventurer
9 months ago
@WhoopFighter Another thing that i notice is that many poeple's movement dont even flinch when being shot at meanwhile i get * to the ground which makes them harder to hit and easier to down me. But well that could go hand to hand with the bullet registration problem.

The game just have too many issues and the developers keep adding more problems on top of the existing ones.
WhoopFighter
9 months ago
@DeepBeats I hate the slowdown mechanic. Like you said, it doesn't seem to affect everyone equally. Some characters, like Gibby, have the fortified perk so that they are immune to slowdown. I've seen plenty of characters without the perk also seem immune to it as well.

That's the thing about cheaters these days. They can do all sorts of minor things that eventually add up to big advantages. There's no need to rage hack and get caught anymore. Manually watching a player, with 20 ticks, it's going to be hard to detect cheaters without having any doubts.

Another thing that I've noticed, is that I take damage in the storms on the beginning of each tick. Enemies with far less health than I do, they seem to outlast me quite often outside of the ring. I don't get it.
DeepBeats
Seasoned Adventurer
9 months ago
@WhoopFighter Indeed many things in this game are quiet off.